Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted February 14, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted February 14, 2023 Our defense sucks.  Offense and Fit not our GLARING PROBLEM!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h4wkfan Posted February 14, 2023 Report Share Posted February 14, 2023 Bogi has to go in the off-season. Every time he is on the court our defense goes to hell. His offense is too hit or miss to continue to get the minutes he gets. Statistically speaking - he’s a huge hole in our rotation. Trae needs to keep putting effort in 100% of the time. He is having arguably his best defensive season yet. Just need to see consistency from play to play. Less complaining and more back checking, please. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kg01 Posted February 14, 2023 Report Share Posted February 14, 2023 2 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said: Our defense sucks.  Offense and Fit not our GLARING PROBLEM!!! Yup. I been giving it some thought. I may be removed from my prominent spot on the @Spud2nique fan club committee but .... Do we look to being in Draymond as a culture change? That's it, I'm logging out before the blowback. Bye-ee... 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted February 14, 2023 Report Share Posted February 14, 2023 34 minutes ago, kg01 said: Yup. I been giving it some thought. I may be removed from my prominent spot on the @Spud2nique fan club committee but .... Do we look to being in Draymond as a culture change? That's it, I'm logging out before the blowback. Bye-ee... Draymond has always ripped the Hawks on why they didn’t draft him. He’s a tool. He will play out his final parasite days as a scrub and retire and prolly get in trouble and go to jail most likely. Here’s hoping! ps Malik’s Andrews and her sister are basically mud wrestling on BSPN. Good look for a good network. Not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg01 Posted February 14, 2023 Report Share Posted February 14, 2023 59 minutes ago, Spud2nique said: ps Malik’s Andrews and her sister are basically mud wrestling on BSPN. O rly? Be right back ... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted February 14, 2023 Report Share Posted February 14, 2023 12 minutes ago, kg01 said: O rly? Be right back ... It’s not even good lol. It was awkward with some Filipino new NBA insider of the Clippers watching in studio. Why BSPN? People know what siblings are and that it could be fun. Really gonna sell yourselves out to sell sex. Ugh. Men! Disgusting. I bet the same producers of this show made the humor on Threes company relating to sex. I guess the world has to spin but if I’m Malika I’m kinda like really? That’s jacked but I’m your puppet and I’m on center stage so.. All kinds of wrong with BSPN. From Skip Bayless b!tchass to Stephen A(moron) Smith. I feel like Chris Berman in this bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg01 Posted February 14, 2023 Report Share Posted February 14, 2023 21 minutes ago, Spud2nique said: It’s not even good lol. It was awkward with some Filipino new NBA insider of the Clippers watching in studio. Why BSPN? People know what siblings are and that it could be fun. Really gonna sell yourselves out to sell sex. Ugh. Men! Disgusting. I bet the same producers of this show made the humor on Threes company relating to sex. I guess the world has to spin but if I’m Malika I’m kinda like really? That’s jacked but I’m your puppet and I’m on center stage so.. All kinds of wrong with BSPN. From Skip Bayless b!tchass to Stephen A(moron) Smith. I feel like Chris Berman in this bit. I keep telling yall stop watching. When you watch, they win. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Atlantaholic Posted February 14, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted February 14, 2023 Why can't the Hawks ever play good offense and defense at the same time? Bogi is one reason, but he can't be the only reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted February 14, 2023 Report Share Posted February 14, 2023 26 minutes ago, kg01 said: I keep telling yall stop watching. When you watch, they win. HEY HEY HEY CALM DOWN PUFF BALL, it was on at the mechanic shop. Wasn’t my tv but I still almost turnt channel with remote they had 18 minutes ago, Atlantaholic said: Bogi is one reason You didn’t watch the game last night did you? Bogi Mutombo was on it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theheroatl Posted February 14, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Atlantaholic said: Why can't the Hawks ever play good offense and defense at the same time? Bogi is one reason, but he can't be the only reason. I thought about this a lot. I think the reason is many GM's can't find a good mix of A+ defenders and all-star offensive players. If Landry can put some defensive studs on our team to match with DJ, Trae, AJ, OO then we can hit that next gear. Look at what Cleveland got... they hit on Evan Mobley big time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted February 15, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 4 hours ago, Spud2nique said: Malik’s Andrews and her sister are basically mud wrestling on BSPN. It's not April!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 19 minutes ago, Diesel said: It's not April!!! I’m not gonna lie, Malika is annoying me. I mean, she’s everywhere with the draft and all that.. I dunno she seems fake, just me tho. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted February 15, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 13 hours ago, Spud2nique said: I’m not gonna lie, Malika is annoying me. I mean, she’s everywhere with the draft and all that.. I dunno she seems fake, just me tho. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 33 minutes ago, Diesel said: All I’m saying is why can’t she be more lovable like Lauren Djabara. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bird_dirt Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 20 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said: I remember thinking about this early in the season. DJM came out of the gate like a defensive gang buster to start the season. The team had multiple double digit steals, etc. But then he and the team flattened. I wondered if the rest of the team’s lack of effort caused DJM to stop trying so hard himself, or if he was just trying too hard at an unsustainable level and he finally came back down to earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member sturt Posted February 15, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 So, you say you want a better defense? Well, unfortunately, your rotation is what your rotation is. The best you can hope for is that those guys get better. But the second best thing you can hope for is the second best thing you can hope for... backfill your roster with some defense-first players who on occasion can be inserted into the 5-man to pump the brakes on the other team's ability to score, if only for awhile. I like to solve problems, not just talk about their existence... even if it's only "solving" in theory... (but you knew that already... ) Realized just now, we can get greedy under the circumstances... conceivably, anyhow. 1. Stanley Johnson could be signed, replacing either Vit or Tyrese on the 15-man. (If you love either one of those guys, though, don't despair, they're both likely to be available on the open market anyhow in the off-season, or if not them, two guys with almost the same resume'.) 2. DeAndre Bembry arguably is facing some G-League time given his return from major injury... but a Google search hasn't given any insight into his progress. If he is returning, and if he isn't especially coveted at the moment since he's coming off major injury... talk to him about taking one of the 2-way slots. 3. But what has evolved to be my favorite thought over the last 24-ish hours is plucking from G-League a player who actually isn't old and actually can brag that he's been on an NBA all-defensive team and actually has shown himself to be an offensive asset with his jump shot this year, even from distance (38% 3 pt on about 70 attempts). Our good friend Kris Dunn. And it gets better. Kris reportedly would be happy to get a 2-way contract. Yes, if you sign Dunn and Bembry, you have to release Forrest and Williams. I like Forrest a lot, but give me Dunn right now. Similarly, if Bembry is healthy enough to play, he left the court last season having been one of the most coveted buyouts, and didn't disappoint in either Brooklyn or Milwaukee last season. Real world... I'm happy with just one of these options turning out in our favor, but I'm allowed to dream... 3 players with widely regarded defensive chops, one of them arguably elite defensive chops even. Costing us almost nothing but opportunity cost (ie, the players they'd each have to replace). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted February 15, 2023 Moderators Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 8 minutes ago, sturt said: Yes, if you sign Dunn and Bembry, you have to release Forrest and Williams. I like Forrest a lot, but give me Dunn right now. Similarly, if Bembry is healthy enough to play, he left the court last season having been one of the most coveted buyouts, and didn't disappoint in either Brooklyn or Milwaukee last season. I would be interested to see what happens if we did this. I am confident that we won't get anything out of those end of the bench players this season at this point so not much downside if we have the cap room to make the swap. Dunn was a big letdown for me. I was very excited when we signed him and thought he could be a difference-maker for us. Grabbing him for free now if he is healthy could be a nice addition to our perimeter defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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theheroatl Posted February 16, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 (edited) 49 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said: Statistically we are BAD defensive team and are getting worse. I would place the blame only about 5-10% on Clint mainly because he literally has no help in the paint. It hasn't been a team effort to keep opponents out of the lane. The OPITP is perhaps the most glaringly-obvious bad statistic against the whole team. Edited February 16, 2023 by theheroatl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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