Popular Post NBASupes Posted July 2, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 2, 2023 It's been pretty dry on the major trade market front. As of right now, Dame sucking all of the air out of the room. Harden has no suitors for the price Tag that Philly wants The next names that could be on the market is Kawhi and PG13 but I was told that even that is unlikely and ideally, they would just like to resign both on shorter term deals. There is still rumors of Atlanta being interested in Siakam but Toronto seems focused on the upcoming season and seeing how they will play in 2023-24. This could be a blockbuster trade we see done in December or January. Doesn't seem like any major trades are happening outside of a Dame trade which is all dependent on obviously Portland. Seems like Embiid and Giannis are locked in unless some ugly changes happen which I am told is unlikely If trades are to happen, Vegas is the next time as teams will be in Vegas talking to other teams but I was told to not expect much. Most of the talk will be with the trade deadline in mind. A lot of players are on the open market but the cost being substantial means teams aren't open to trading at this time. Like I said, the trade deadline this year, will be massive. 6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted July 3, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 Agree? Yes or No? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theheroatl Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 26 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said: Agree? Yes or No? Where is the defensive upgrade there Glenny boy 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted July 3, 2023 Moderators Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 55 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said: Agree? Yes or No? No. I think there this more to come. I like Glen but don't know why he's so optimistic about what we have right now. We have Trae/DJ who most seem to view as a bad fit but they are our only proven high level starters. We have a good sixth man in Bogi. That's it in terms of proven high level NBA talent. We have Hunter and Capela who are very good, and a whole roster of unproven raw guys. That's not a team that's going to compete with the best in the league. Still I think we'll see more changes. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txsting Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 The best insider nuggets at the moment aren't even in this thread. Mods, I would appreciate that if we want to have an insider thread, that it is a locked thread which only can be posted to by vetted insiders. And then have a separate 'reaction' thread for everyone to talk about the rumors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 3 hours ago, theheroatl said: Where is the defensive upgrade there Glenny boy Patience.. mustn’t disrupt ice cream hour. Glenny needs his sugar intake! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted July 3, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 4 hours ago, macdaddy said: We have Trae/DJ who most seem to view as a bad fit but they are our only proven high level starters Why do people believe this? 4 hours ago, macdaddy said: That's not a team that's going to compete with the best in the league. Who are the best in the league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted July 3, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 59 minutes ago, txsting said: Mods, I would appreciate that if we want to have an insider thread, that it is a locked thread which only can be posted to by vetted insiders. Does vetted include a track record? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txsting Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Diesel said: Does vetted include a track record? I'm not 100 on that but it definitely means you're not posting in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted July 4, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 4, 2023 Jaylen Brown is eligible for a supermax extension worth $270 million over five years with the Boston Celtics this offseason, but no deal has been reached so far this offseason. "The side are talking," said Brian Windhorst on Sports Center. "This is obviously a very important, fragile deal. I know that there's interest in both sides to get something done. I would expect it to head in that direction. "The one thing to point out: if Jaylen Brown gets extended on this deal for a year. For any deal at all. He cannot be traded for a year. For any deal at all. He's prohibited from being traded. So the Celtics probably want to make sure all their business is locked down before going into this." Windhorst was asked to explain why he described the situation as "fragile." "I think it will get done, but he's eligible for up to 35 percent of the salary cap, but he doesn't have to get that. The Celtics can negotiate on that. They can negotiate on the player option. They can negotiate on several things... There's aspect within the deal you have to negotiate." BRIAN WINDHORST/ESPN 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theheroatl Posted July 4, 2023 Report Share Posted July 4, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said: Jaylen Brown is eligible for a supermax extension worth $270 million over five years with the Boston Celtics this offseason, but no deal has been reached so far this offseason. "The side are talking," said Brian Windhorst on Sports Center. "This is obviously a very important, fragile deal. I know that there's interest in both sides to get something done. I would expect it to head in that direction. "The one thing to point out: if Jaylen Brown gets extended on this deal for a year. For any deal at all. He cannot be traded for a year. For any deal at all. He's prohibited from being traded. So the Celtics probably want to make sure all their business is locked down before going into this." Windhorst was asked to explain why he described the situation as "fragile." "I think it will get done, but he's eligible for up to 35 percent of the salary cap, but he doesn't have to get that. The Celtics can negotiate on that. They can negotiate on the player option. They can negotiate on several things... There's aspect within the deal you have to negotiate." BRIAN WINDHORST/ESPN Celtics are in a position to hit the 2nd Apron for multiple years with a JB extension... They are trying to convince JB to take less so they can contend and JB is probably not having it. I really want to get a SNT with JB somehow. I think the situation is very fragile as JB has been known to voice his opinions freely about Boston, etc. I think he wants to win and like Boston but of all the players he doesn't feel exact allegiance to them. I'm not sure how they view Grant Williams but he is RFA and Charlotte could throw him a decent offer ($20m and that continues to wreck Celtics cap into the 2nd apron for years unless they clear out Brogdon, White, Al Horford, etc. Edited July 4, 2023 by theheroatl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted July 4, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 4, 2023 Just now, theheroatl said: Celtics are in a position to hit the 2nd Apron for multiple years... They are trying to convince JB to take less so they can contend and JB is probably not having it. I really want to get a SNT with JB somehow. It would be an Extend and Trade since he's not currently a FA...and as noted in the excerpt above, if he extends with Boston he can't be traded for 1 year (I thought it was 6 months). On the flip side, we can trade for him now on his current 1 year deal, but we can't extend him for at least 6 months. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted July 4, 2023 Report Share Posted July 4, 2023 10 minutes ago, theheroatl said: Apron @kg01and I in our aprons.. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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theheroatl Posted July 4, 2023 Report Share Posted July 4, 2023 Just now, JayBirdHawk said: Morey is one of those GM's that seems incredibly hard to work with and only gets his way or the highway like a toddler. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted July 4, 2023 Report Share Posted July 4, 2023 Just now, theheroatl said: Morey is one of those GM's that seems incredibly hard to work with and only gets his way or the highway like a toddler. Morey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg01 Posted July 4, 2023 Report Share Posted July 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, theheroatl said: Morey is one of those GM's that seems incredibly hard to work with and only gets his way or the highway like a toddler. And he has an immense reputation for someone who's never gm'd a title team. He has, what, one conference finalist? Where or how was his rep earned? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theheroatl Posted July 4, 2023 Report Share Posted July 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, kg01 said: And he has an immense reputation for someone who's never gm'd a title team. He has, what, one conference finalist? Where or how was his rep earned? Exactly. I think the best GM's are the ones that are personable but also get deals that aren't "wins" but accomplish their mission. Connelly, Pelinka, Presti come to mind. Morey and Masai and our friend in Utah are similar in their toddler tendencies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted July 4, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 4, 2023 Remember last offseason when Harden took that $15 million paycut for Sixers to sign PJ Tucker and another FA?? Probably under the assumption that Morey would be giving him a long term max this offseason and if it didn't happen he could get it from Rockets. Neither has happened. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NBASupes Posted July 5, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 5, 2023 Happy 4th of July Blockbuster Damian Lillard While there is no progress with Miami. There has been progress in general. Portland and Boston has heated up talks about Lillard for Brown and Horford with Nurk going to a 3rd team. The issue is Lillard hasn't shown any interest in anyone but Miami and Brown want supermax from Boston or Atlanta. Atlanta has talked to a lot of teams and has reached out to Portland if Brown goes to Atlanta. I am told that they can put as many as 6 teams in the trade but have settled on a framework of three teams. Nurk is the biggest hold-up as they are having a HARD time trying to find a home for him. I am told the framework is: Murray and Hunter to TOR Siakam, JJ, and Horford plus 2024 1st (ATL likely SAC) to POR Lillard to BOS J. Brown and Nurkic to ATL I am told Atlanta asked Portland to see what's the best they can get for Nurk on the market as Atlanta is not interested in Nurkic. Atlanta would prefer a smaller player for Nurkic even if the contract is equally not good. I am told Atlanta has an interest in a potential Nurk to Miami deal for Duncan Robinson but as you can imagine, Miami is reluctant to any Portland deal that doesn't involve Dame right now. Evan F from New York is another name the Hawks have looked into. There are teams interested in Nurk but to no value for Portland but of value to the Hawks. That said, Boston is still progressing with contract talks with Brown so he has not been offered yet and Dame still is stubborn as an Ox about Miami. But this was a deal I am told Atlanta has brought to Portland if Jaylen Brown requests a trade and Boston offers Brown for Lillard. It's pretty much a dead trade market right now. Teams are set for the most part. Toronto did reach out to Atlanta again but Atlanta is not trading Murray unless Siakam is willing to resign which he's not. I am told that Portland is not bothered by that as much. The thought is you can resign him without issues but Atlanta isn't as willing to do so as Portland is due to the trade cost of Murray for them and if they trade Murray, they want a guarantee. Portland is considering trading Jeremi Grant. There are suitors for him but Portland wanted more assets for him. It's said that he will be available for trade by the deadline. There are teams said to be interested. Philly does not want to trade Harden which will upset Embiid but they didn't want to give Harden a major deal when he had no real market. Even less of a market than Kyrie. Kyrie had a market of three teams willing to give him 25+ per and Dallas just outbidded them just to keep Kyrie happy. Philly didn't and Harden only had one bid from HOU for 30+ million which is about what he's making now and he is PISSED about it but there is no real market for Harden right now. Teams just don't want him for a lot. Even his trade market is really bad and this is ultimately making it hard for Philly to deal with Harden right now but this is also on Philly. They made promises and didn't follow them. That's why you don't make promises in the 1st place, Philadelphia. Harden took less last year when he actually had a market but wanted to do good to Philly. I see why he's made. The Knicks have been shopping Randle for a star and haven't come close. They did come close to a PG13 deal with LAC but pulled out when they heard PG13 contract request which is why LAC put him on the market in the first place. I was just told Atlanta was turned off as well. Cleveland shopped both Garland and Allen but I am told the cost is exceptional and no one has come close. Gobert is really available but teams just don't want to come close to MIN's demands for a return. Embiid is who everyone is waiting for but I am told Philly wants to get two max spots in 2024 so they can give Embiid options. They are also hoping a star becomes available for a discount like Trae Young who teams are hovering for. The Knicks in particular really want Embiid and are willing to cash in for him. I am told, Morey isn't close to interested. It's a dead market right now, maybe things will heat up in Vegas. Atlanta is still the most active team is what my guy confirmed again. So we are very active but Atlanta wants to contend, if you can't help them do that, they aren't interested. 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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