Premium Member BangHolman Posted May 15 Premium Member Report Share Posted May 15 5 minutes ago, marco102 said: You will if the Spurs want a point guard for Wemby. They can draft Dillingham, Castle, or Reed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Popular Post AHF Posted May 15 Author Moderators Popular Post Report Share Posted May 15 5 minutes ago, NekiEcko said: I am with you on that but one question tho What would happen if Trae does not like that package? For me the key point in time for Trae's view on the team is 1.5 years from now. If he doesn't like it today but it ends up being a fantastic move then Trae will be on board long before he is an UFA. If Sarr is slow to develop and we trade for a wing like Quentin Grimes (with a future pick or two) then Trae may well signal to the Hawks that he doesn't plan to stick around. We are at a critical juncture for the team. Landry needs to get this right to put us on a good path for the next 3-8 years. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco102 Posted May 15 Report Share Posted May 15 Just now, BangHolman said: They can draft Dillingham, Castle, or Reed. Yes, but Wemby is reported to want to win now. They can still draft whoever they want, but these young players don't come in and contribute right away. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Popular Post AHF Posted May 15 Author Moderators Popular Post Report Share Posted May 15 1 minute ago, BangHolman said: They can draft Dillingham, Castle, or Reed. So one guy with no offensive game today and two guys who came off the bench in college. I'm not sure that trio is quite at the same level in the near term. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member BangHolman Posted May 15 Premium Member Report Share Posted May 15 Just pointing out that they have options that won't cost them a thing. DJ brings back KJ at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted May 15 Moderators Report Share Posted May 15 22 minutes ago, ShooterSays said: I'm with you 100% man. Giannis is not realistic for us and it's crazy people are campaigning to trade Trae and not DJM. I don't doubt we've had internal conversations about Giannis, but this feels like KAT 2.0 already. Draft Sarr and use DJM to go get a wing. I agree 100% but Giannis hasn't gotten out of the 2 round in 4 years and has played a total of 3 games the last two postseasons. Given his game is built on physically dominating people i don't think it' far fetched to think they may try to move on while he still gets a big haul. But that last sentence is what i really want. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco102 Posted May 15 Report Share Posted May 15 5 minutes ago, BangHolman said: Just pointing out that they have options that won't cost them a thing. DJ brings back KJ at best. DJ is a much better player than that. It's just the fit with Trae that's not working so we undervalue him. When he plays point guard, he's at minimum top 12 in the NBA. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco102 Posted May 15 Report Share Posted May 15 55 minutes ago, Dragitoff said: They'd want Vassell's defense next to Trae. We want that. 41 minutes ago, KB21 said: Why do so many people want to stick Brandon Ingram on this team? Apparently because you'd get lucky to get Keldon Johnson for him so why not trade him for a much better player in Brandon Ingram? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member BangHolman Posted May 15 Premium Member Report Share Posted May 15 1 minute ago, marco102 said: DJ is a much better player than that. It's just the fit with Trae that's not working so we undervalue him. When he plays point guard, he's at minimum top 12 in the NBA. Well, the deadline rumors were people like Quentin Grimes and a Pick, so it doesn't say much about his market value. Teams won't pay us full price, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco102 Posted May 15 Report Share Posted May 15 (edited) 4 minutes ago, BangHolman said: Well, the deadline rumors were people like Quentin Grimes and a Pick, so it doesn't say much about his market value. Teams won't pay us full price, ever. Which is why he wasn't traded. There are some point guard needy teams out there. New Orleans, San Antonio, and Orlando are the ones I can think of off the top of my head. If they value him enough, you'll be able to get something of value in return. I do agree that Vassell maybe won't happen, but he's much more likely than Giannis and is a better fit than Ingram, so why not hope that we pull the Vassell trade off? Edited May 15 by marco102 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABH Posted May 15 Report Share Posted May 15 56 minutes ago, KB21 said: We can match the salary by adding Hunter to the deal. However, the only picks we can actually trade in the deal would be the #1 pick this year, a 2029 1st round pick, and a 2031 first round pick. Milwaukee isn't going to do that. We can't trade our 2026 pick or our 2028 pick because of the stepien rule. I guess we could trade the Kings pick, but that may not convey. Not getting Giannis...move on with this dream trades..there not going to do much as usual... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted May 15 Author Moderators Report Share Posted May 15 I do think we should do much better than the Grimes and a pick sort of garbage. The last part of the season should be a strong advertisement for what DJM can do as the primary point guard for a team. Not surprising that he looked better playing PG next to a SG instead of playing SG next to another PG. Compare FVV and DJM and I think DJM has a sizable edge. FVV will be paid $41M next season which makes DJM a nice discount for a proven 20 / 5 / 6 guy who is under team control for years and is in his prime for the length of his current contract. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco102 Posted May 15 Report Share Posted May 15 4 minutes ago, AHF said: I do think we should do much better than the Grimes and a pick sort of garbage. The last part of the season should be a strong advertisement for what DJM can do as the primary point guard for a team. Not surprising that he looked better playing PG next to a SG instead of playing SG next to another PG. Compare FVV and DJM and I think DJM has a sizable edge. FVV will be paid $41M next season which makes DJM a nice discount for a proven 20 / 5 / 6 guy who is under team control for years and is in his prime for the length of his current contract. The contract he signed also increases his value on the market. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post REHawksFan Posted May 15 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 15 8 minutes ago, marco102 said: The contract he signed also increases his value on the market. The ideal scenario, imo, is to draft Sarr and keep him. Then create a bidding war to extract as much value for DJM as possible among the teams that need immediate help at PG. Without looking it up, I have to think DJM would be the best value PG in the entire NBA that is actually available. If you can get SAS, NOP, and Orl to each focus on DJM as their top choice, you should be able to get a decent return for him. Whether that's Vassell, Herb Jones, Isaac from Orlando or others, I don't know. Just get as much as you can that will help us win now and Trae should be happy. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDawg#8 Posted May 15 Report Share Posted May 15 (edited) I’ll just put this here: Edited May 15 by RedDawg#8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afro Posted May 15 Report Share Posted May 15 5 minutes ago, REHawksFan said: The ideal scenario, imo, is to draft Sarr and keep him. Then create a bidding war to extract as much value for DJM as possible among the teams that need immediate help at PG. Without looking it up, I have to think DJM would be the best value PG in the entire NBA that is actually available. If you can get SAS, NOP, and Orl to each focus on DJM as their top choice, you should be able to get a decent return for him. Whether that's Vassell, Herb Jones, Isaac from Orlando or others, I don't know. Just get as much as you can that will help us win now and Trae should be happy. Agreed. Thanks to the #1 pick and DJM, we have enough assets, as long as Landry does his job, to reasonably keep Trae happy. If reasonably keeping him happy isnt enough, well I guess thats a him problem lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Popular Post Wretch Posted May 15 Premium Member Popular Post Report Share Posted May 15 So I'll never abandon the Squawk, just need to take a break. The idea of moving on from Trae is HEAVY as is the thought of trading the #1. I'm still lurking a little, but I did want to weigh in (also, someone needs to create a poll). First of all, I want no part of any deal that sends Trae to the Spurs. I don't want to trade him, but if a deal must be made it can't be with San Antonio so they can build a dynasty. Absolutely not. Trading Trae for picks is bad for Atlanta sports just trade him for another star if we just have to. Trading the #1 pick is almost just as bad in terms of optics I don't want Giannis. We are an injury away from mortgaging everything for nothing. There's no guarantee of anything even without injuries. In a couple of years it there is a good chance of us having no Sarr, no Trae, no JJ, no Giannis, no titles, and NONE of our picks. Move DJ for better fit/equal value, get some defenders/shooters, and build a competitive team WITH Sarr. We can make the playoffs and give San Antonio some middling 1sts. 2026 is a pick swap, we could both end up in the lottery and they decline it. We made that bed, we need to lay in it. 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NekiEcko Posted May 15 Report Share Posted May 15 16 minutes ago, RedDawg#8 said: I’ll just put this here: That is nice but is it going to help this team in the next couple of years? We need defense in the worst of ways and keeping them, both is crazy, and the numbers has showed it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShooterSays Posted May 15 Report Share Posted May 15 35 minutes ago, marco102 said: Which is why he wasn't traded. There are some point guard needy teams out there. New Orleans, San Antonio, and Orlando are the ones I can think of off the top of my head. If they value him enough, you'll be able to get something of value in return. I do agree that Vassell maybe won't happen, but he's much more likely than Giannis and is a better fit than Ingram, so why not hope that we pull the Vassell trade off? If we strike out on Vassell, Herb, or Mikal Bridges, I wonder if we could get back into the top 10 or 12 and draft Dalton Knecht? A lot of teams won’t like his age, but I think that’s perfect for us bc he can contribute now. Fits that Huerter mold Trae has been successful with, but has a higher ceiling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Sothron Posted May 15 Premium Member Report Share Posted May 15 1 hour ago, REHawksFan said: Is there ANY possibility of a deal for Giannis WITHOUT giving up Sarr? None. The Bucks are not trading Giannis for just Jalen, two future firsts and salary. They would demand and get the #1 pick 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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