2023-24 NBA Regular Season: Notes/Tidbits/Updates etc.

[AHF]

40 minutes ago, kg01 said:

I find it inconceivable that he accepted that contract from LAD without other financial inducements.  Unconscionable!

$700M over 10 years is still a lot of money.  I don't think he sold himself short even considering the time value of money.  The biggest contracts the last few years were almost half of that amount (like Mookie Betts taking $365M over 12 years or Aaron Judge taking $360M over 9 years).

[bird_dirt]

4 hours ago, Spud2nique said:

I’m sorry I keep watching it over and over. Is there something missing from Harden’s brain ? seriously wtf  

He has the same bookie as Ohtani and just noticed the point spread. 

[kg01]

4 hours ago, AHF said:

$700M over 10 years is still a lot of money.  I don't think he sold himself short even considering the time value of money.  The biggest contracts the last few years were almost half of that amount (like Mookie Betts taking $365M over 12 years or Aaron Judge taking $360M over 9 years).

Yeah, as I suggested, he has plenty monies to bet with. 

[JayBirdHawk]

 

 

[Final_quest]

15 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

 

 

Huerter has started 59 games this season for the Kings and is averaging 10.2 points per game -- down from 15.2 points per game last season in his first campaign with Sacramento. His 3-point shooting has also dropped from 40.2% last season to 36.1% this season.

***Not changing my story.  We traded Huerter at the right time.  

[kg01]

Word to the wise.  Do not run afoul of AH in the next few days.  Methinks he might be a tad bit *ahem* upset.

Oh and don't mention Oakland ....

 

[JayBirdHawk]

How long before players get kicked out for illegal bets? Smh.

And NBA advertising this too? Can put the paste back in the tube.

 

 

 

 

Sources: NBA eyes Raptors' Jontay Porter for betting issues

• David Purdum, Brian Windhorst and Adrian Wojnarowski

Mar 25, 2024, 06:14 PM ET

 

Toronto Raptors forward Jontay Porter is under investigation by the NBA following multiple instances of betting irregularities over the past several months, multiple sources told ESPN on Monday.

At issue are prop bets involving Porter from games on Jan. 26 and March 20, multiple sources told ESPN. The NBA did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

In the game on Jan. 26 against the LA Clippers, there was increased betting interest on the under for Porter props, which for the night were set at around 5.5 points, 4.5 rebounds and 1.5 assists. There was also an over/under for Porter's made 3-pointers, which was 0.5.

That night, Porter played just four minutes before leaving the game due to what the Raptors said was a re-aggravation of an eye injury he'd suffered four days earlier in a game against the Memphis Grizzlies. He did not score in the game against the Clippers, had three rebounds and one assist, and did not attempt a 3, meaning the under hit on all of the props.

The next day, as part of a daily report to users on betting results, DraftKings Sportsbook reported that the under on Porter's 3-pointers was the biggest money winner for bettors of any NBA player props from games that evening.

Porter played 19 minutes two days later and scored 12 points with seven rebounds and three assists.

On March 20, in a game against the Phoenix Suns, Porter played just three minutes before leaving the game due to what the Raptors said was an illness and did not return. He did not score, attempted and missed one shot, and had two rebounds.

Sportsbooks had his over/unders set at around 7.5 points and 5.5 rebounds.

The next day, DraftKings SportsBooks reported to its users that Porter's prop bets were the No. 1 moneymaker from the night in the NBA.

Porter, the brother of Denver Nuggets star Michael Porter Jr., is on a two-way contract with the Raptors earning $415,000 this season.

He missed the Raptors game Saturday against the Washington Wizards for personal reasons, according to the team. He is listed as out for Monday's game against the Brooklyn Nets for personal reasons.

[Diesel]

On 3/21/2024 at 6:26 PM, JayBirdHawk said:

 

 

When he played with us, it felt like he was on his way to an injury like this.   I don't know how long it takes this type of tear to develop, but he got fouled at one point with us and after that he was always shaky... I hope it heals completely so that he can be like Maryland Kev. 

 

[JayBirdHawk]

20 minutes ago, Diesel said:

When he played with us, it felt like he was on his way to an injury like this.   I don't know how long it takes this type of tear to develop, but he got fouled at one point with us and after that he was always shaky... I hope it heals completely so that he can be like Maryland Kev. 

 

Jokic injured him while with Hawks and Jokic injured him on a similar play to end his season.

[shakes]

This Jontay Porter scandal is going to rock the NBA assuming any high level media members have the guts to even cover it.

[bird_dirt]

1 minute ago, shakes said:

This Jontay Porter scandal is going to rock the NBA assuming any high level media members have the guts to even cover it.

I don’t think it will. He’ll be punished and the NBA will be like, “See, we caught it and dealt with it. The system works!” They will have no problem throwing a two-bit two way player under the bus. 

[kg01]

28 minutes ago, shakes said:

This Jontay Porter scandal is going to rock the NBA assuming any high level media members have the guts to even cover it.

Why?  What would anyone have to ask that doesn't apply to literally every other player in every other sport?

This isn't an 'NBA' problem, it's an 'all sports' problem.

This is an illustration of why sports can't be in bed with betting.  There's no way this isn't happening in all sports now.  It's too easy to do it and get away with it.

WackAdam strikes again. 

[shakes]

1 hour ago, kg01 said:

Why?  What would anyone have to ask that doesn't apply to literally every other player in every other sport?

This isn't an 'NBA' problem, it's an 'all sports' problem.

This is an illustration of why sports can't be in bed with betting.  There's no way this isn't happening in all sports now.  It's too easy to do it and get away with it.

WackAdam strikes again. 

It's happening in baseball.  Only difference is Porter wasn't smart enough to have a fall guy like the Japanese guy did.

[kg01]

40 minutes ago, shakes said:

It's happening in baseball.  Only difference is Porter wasn't smart enough to have a fall guy like the Japanese guy did.

Exactly.  Why's everybody all 'poor Ohtani'?

You mean to tell me that mfer got "secret" married and his bff got wrapped up in an FBI investigation in the same week.  And there's nothing weird going on there?  Cmon, people.

A $500thou/year employee was allowed to amass over $5mil in debt to a bookie?  Really?

[bird_dirt]

6 hours ago, shakes said:

It's happening in baseball.  Only difference is Porter wasn't smart enough to have a fall guy like the Japanese guy did.

Technically that’s different. Ohtani made bets which is bad, but as of right now we have no idea if he bet on baseball. Or the fact that he owed millions to a bookie would suggest he did not take advantage on his bets with insider info or purposely swaying the outcomes. 

But Porter purposely altered his play on the court to hit expected (or unexpected?) betting outcomes, likely getting paid by someone to purposely tank. His actions more directly undermined the integrity of the game. 

[kg01]

2 hours ago, bird_dirt said:

Technically that’s different. Ohtani made bets which is bad, but as of right now we have no idea if he bet on baseball. Or the fact that he owed millions to a bookie would suggest he did not take advantage on his bets with insider info or purposely swaying the outcomes. 

But Porter purposely altered his play on the court to hit expected (or unexpected?) betting outcomes, likely getting paid by someone to purposely tank. His actions more directly undermined the integrity of the game. 

Wrong!

The damage isn't that you profited off your deed.  The damage is destruction of the notion that the participants aren't participating in the wagering at all.

[JayBirdHawk]

 

 

[bird_dirt]

12 hours ago, kg01 said:

Wrong!

The damage isn't that you profited off your deed.  The damage is destruction of the notion that the participants aren't participating in the wagering at all.

Sorry, but I just disagree. 
They’re both bad things to do that deserve punishment, but one is worse than the other. One altered the outcome of a game. 

Pete Rose gambled and was rightfully punished. But he didn’t alter games that we know of, & there is still a large contingency of people who believe he should be allowed back in MLB. 

Tim Donaghy altered NBA game outcomes, and no one wants him to be a part of the NBA at all. 
 

[kg01]

11 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said:

 

 

Is that what he was saying?  If so, he was handin' them out like Oprah.

2 hours ago, bird_dirt said:

Sorry, but I just disagree. 
They’re both bad things to do that deserve punishment, but one is worse than the other. One altered the outcome of a game. 

Pete Rose gambled and was rightfully punished. But he didn’t alter games that we know of, & there is still a large contingency of people who believe he should be allowed back in MLB. 

Tim Donaghy altered NBA game outcomes, and no one wants him to be a part of the NBA at all. 
 

The illusion of it being an unsullied contest is violated by any gambling at all, imho.  Doesn't matter if the outcome is actually effected.  I don't believe the two can be separated.  There's no way a participant can bet on his own game and have it be unaltered.  Just because Porter was blatant with it doesn't make it more egregious.

[kg01]

@JayBirdHawk, I did some further research and that is indeed what whOubre said to them initially.  If im them, that guy dorsnt finish the next couple games I see him.  I'm t'ing that bloke up on sight.  Ol' scrub a**.

Need to be mad at Kawhi for snatching his soul two times in a row when he thought he was finna be a hero.  Smh, I hate the refs but players need to be more professional too.  That was over the line.  And his coach is just as culpable due to his own behavior.