Why are we winning?

[Diesel]

I hear a lot about "the modern NBA"...  a lot about 3 point shooting.   I took a dive into why are we winning.  Starting with the 3 pters made....

 

As you can see.. we're near the bottom on the list of teams making three pointers.   Our 11.0 made per game is the exact same as we did last year.  I believe that the three point shooting is a myth.  It's great when you can drop three pointer after three pointer, it makes a difference.  However, hitting shots is more important... and that's what we have been doing..  We have been hitting shots..

 

We are number 6 overall when it comes to hitting shots... Over our last three games, we've bumped that up to the third best team in the league.  Last year, we were like 22nd in this category.

Then there's this...

 

Steals per game... tied for 5th. 

Defensive Rebounding #13.

 

We foul less. 

 

We draw fouls. 

But mainly....

We are a fast breaking team..

 

Our tempo is our superpower.  We are 6+ points better than we were under Nate/Prunty.  We no longer pick up the ball, we're off and running.  We don't give defenses a chance to set up.  We're not trying to score against their best defense.   So it improves our 2 ball.  It improves our scoring efficiency.   It improves our assists. 

 

 

 

[macdaddy]

Shooting, defense, pace. 

[Diesel]

2 minutes ago, macdaddy said:

Shooting, defense, pace. 

Defense and Pace improves the shooting in my opinion.   I'm so glad, we no longer walk the ball up and try to score against a set defense. 

 

[kg01]

"Cause we've played some terrible a** teams." - Mavs 

[hylndr11]

17 minutes ago, kg01 said:

"Cause we've played some terrible a** teams." - Mavs -Celtics

 

[hylndr11]

Were also shooting 85.2% at the line, which is number 1 in the league, that is something as well .

[BangHolman]

Full team buy in to the new system.

If shots fell vs CLT, that game looks like the Wizards game.

[JayBirdHawk]

2 hours ago, Diesel said:

As you can see.. we're near the bottom on the list of teams making three pointers.   Our 11.0 made per game is the exact same as we did last year.  I believe that the three point shooting is a myth. 

1. Last year we were low in volume and makes.  Last year we were operating from the midrange.

2. This year we are taking more 3pt attempts. The Charlotte game has skewed the 11 made 3s per game since we only made 5 and shot 17%. The other 4 games our made 3s are 20, 15, 16 and 10 so that's 15.2 made 3s a game.

3. The other thing is this year in lieu of the midrange game we are going to the basket and racking up fouls and freethrow attempts.  I think the 3pt attempts opens up the lane for more drives which we are taking advantage of. Freethrow attempts are up across the board for the top 8 players except for Bogi.

4. Defense - we are actually trying to play some, more often than not.

[Diesel]

39 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

1. Last year we were low in volume and makes.  Last year we were operating from the midrange.

2. This year we are taking more 3pt attempts. The Charlotte game has skewed the 11 made 3s per game since we only made 5 and shot 17%. The other 4 games our made 3s are 20, 15, 16 and 10 so that's 15.2 made 3s a game.

3. The other thing is this year in lieu of the midrange game we are going to the basket and racking up fouls and freethrow attempts.  I think the 3pt attempts opens up the lane for more drives which we are taking advantage of. Freethrow attempts are up across the board for the top 8 players except for Bogi.

4. Defense - we are actually trying to play some, more often than not.

As shown, our steals are up.   So that's a factor.   I don't know if I mentioned that we are better rebounding too. 

The 3 pt attempts is something that we will watch.  I know it's something that Snyder preaches, but I see DJ's game improve when him getting started in the midrange.   I don't like the idea of neglecting the midrange to go after three point shots.  That's a Charlotte way of doing things.   I honestly feel like our Pace can make a bigger difference than the three point shot does.   When you eliminate the walk it up style of before,  and everybody is moving on the missed basket... we are dangerous.  Already we have seen scores off of run outs.   We never did that before.   When you can run out on a shooter, it really effects the shooter.  Now, he's worried about missing and his defensive assignment... makes him less liable to shoot the next time. 

It's a small sample size, but we are checking off some good boxes so far. 

 

[JayBirdHawk]

 

 

[TheFuzz]

4 hours ago, Diesel said:

But mainly....

We are a fast breaking team..

 

Our tempo is our superpower.  We are 6+ points better than we were under Nate/Prunty.  We no longer pick up the ball, we're off and running.  We don't give defenses a chance to set up.  We're not trying to score against their best defense.   So it improves our 2 ball.  It improves our scoring efficiency.   It improves our assists. 

This is the key. When we get on the break we look fantastic, when we don't our offense slows down a little bit. It starts with Trae + JJ but Murray, Capela, Bogi, Hunter have gotten out and run some too.

[theheroatl]

Dallas and Boston shooting a ton of 3’s and they are undefeated.

 

what’s your point

[bird_dirt]

1 hour ago, JayBirdHawk said:

 

 

Dame Time!

[Diesel]

2 hours ago, theheroatl said:

Dallas and Boston shooting a ton of 3’s and they are undefeated.

 

what’s your point

Boston is killing people with defense. 

Dallas.. I don't think hasn't played a contender yet... we will see tonight. 

 

[JustSomeGuy]

12 hours ago, Diesel said:

Boston is killing people with defense. 

Dallas.. I don't think hasn't played a contender yet... we will see tonight. 

 

The Bucks really underestimated Jrue

[Final_quest]

A key for us has been an opportunistic defense creating turnovers leading to fast breaks.  Half court offense has been pretty average, but overall offense is good due to getting transition baskets. 

Last year we had a similar record because of an easy early schedule.  This team is already more fun to watch. 

[NBASupes]

2 hours ago, JustSomeGuy said:

The Bucks really underestimated Jrue

Not really. It was a RS success for playoff success move. What hurts is the role players right now. Beasley shouldn't be starting but they don't have other options

[Gray Mule]

Why are we winning?  Because we are playing better than our opponents!

[JustSomeGuy]

2 hours ago, NBASupes said:

Not really. It was a RS success for playoff success move. What hurts is the role players right now. Beasley shouldn't be starting but they don't have other options

It’s projected success versus actual success. The Bucks had both with Jrue, and Jrue has taken them to higher heights than Dame did with Portland. His defensive impact is being seen with Boston and is being missed in Milwaukee.

The NBA is a star driven league but I think it’s been proven a lot lately that more stars doesn’t automatically equal more success. 

[NBASupes]

37 minutes ago, JustSomeGuy said:

It’s projected success versus actual success. The Bucks had both with Jrue, and Jrue has taken them to higher heights than Dame did with Portland. His defensive impact is being seen with Boston and is being missed in Milwaukee.

The NBA is a star driven league but I think it’s been proven a lot lately that more stars doesn’t automatically equal more success. 

What! Jrue success with Milwaukee is due to Giannis not Jrue. Dame been way more successful than Jrue in NO unlike Jrue, Dame been a #1 option.

Edited November 4, 2023 by NBASupes