EazyRoc Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 1 hour ago, GThawks3 said: Yeah because Bamba can’t improve right? And I never even claimed he’s a good shooter but non shooter is incorrect. Doncic can not shoot or pass as well as Trae. And Doncic is just as much a liability defensively. And probably won’t beat NBA wings off the dribble because he struggled beating Euro talent off the dribble. That will greatly diminish his very good playmaking ability. You have to be able to get to spots to create passing lanes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EazyRoc Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 1 hour ago, davis171 said: This site is much lower on JJJ than most experts and NBA execs. You all think you could make it as an NBA scout... What exactly is an “expert” ? Also, you don’t know where NBA execs have him on their big boards unless you are in their front office. Could I make it as a NBA Scout ? I think I could if I were interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg01 Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 56 minutes ago, GThawks3 said: Experts and NBA execs are high on guys that turn out to be busts every single year. And I don’t necessarily think JJJ will be a bad NBA player just someone that’s not worth a top 3 pick. Eggsactly. In fact, so-called NBA eggsperts are more wrong than right. Suggesting we're opposed to their projections is kind of a complimenty if you ask me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 13 minutes ago, KB21 said: That’s not true either, but thanks for playing. Most people see Ibakq as JJJ’s floor. This is nonsense. Most people seem to think he will need to develop physically to become what Ibaka was in OKC. That's why it's a comparison. Same for Bamba, Bagley, or Ayton with any comparison, it's about what they project to be down the road, not what they are right now. Please talk lying to yourself on this. Its not healthy for our fanbase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathan2331 Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 That’s not true either, but thanks for playing. Most people see Ibakq as JJJ’s floor. What's JJJ's comp to you? Good outcome Ibaka? Best outcome, Miami Heat Chris Bosh? I'm not seeing it with him. He's not a great offensive player, which is fine because Bamba couldn't shoot effectively. Bad rebounder given his tools. His fouling makes his defense less impactful in reality and less meaningful statistically. He reminds me of Marvin when he speaks, I don't see greatness with him. He compares himself with Anthony Davis, but then I have to question does he know what that means. When asked what animal he would like to be, he switched his answer from a cheetah to a koala bear. I don't want a Koala bear (this actually happened and shouldn't be used a sign of anything meaningful but I think it's important to mention). Apart from the assessments in character those are facts. Sorry you're blinded by your refusal to draft the best player for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazer Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 39 minutes ago, NBASupes said: I am actually thinking about recording for ya'll and posting it. Just use my business recorder I remember you already having an podcast in the past, correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 1 hour ago, KB21 said: That’s not true either, but thanks for playing. Most people see Ibakq as JJJ’s floor. I think jjj floor is lower than Ibaka. Ibaka is a man who isn’t “soft” and was a starter almost all his career. JJJ gets off to a slow start and he might not be a starter in the league at all in which case Ibaka would be better when it’s all said n done. JJJ should feel honored to be compared to Ibaka cuz he hasn’t done jack squat. 55 minutes ago, nathan2331 said: What's JJJ's comp to you? Good outcome Ibaka? Best outcome, Miami Heat Chris Bosh? I'm not seeing it with him. He's not a great offensive player, which is fine because Bamba couldn't shoot effectively. Bad rebounder given his tools. His fouling makes his defense less impactful in reality and less meaningful statistically. He reminds me of Marvin when he speaks, I don't see greatness with him. He compares himself with Anthony Davis, but then I have to question does he know what that means. When asked what animal he would like to be, he switched his answer from a cheetah to a koala bear. I don't want a Koala bear (this actually happened and shouldn't be used a sign of anything meaningful but I think it's important to mention). Apart from the assessments in character those are facts. Sorry you're blinded by your refusal to draft the best player for the future. Marvin Williams. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 57 minutes ago, nathan2331 said: What's JJJ's comp to you? Good outcome Ibaka? Best outcome, Miami Heat Chris Bosh? I'm not seeing it with him. He's not a great offensive player, which is fine because Bamba couldn't shoot effectively. Bad rebounder given his tools. His fouling makes his defense less impactful in reality and less meaningful statistically. He reminds me of Marvin when he speaks, I don't see greatness with him. He compares himself with Anthony Davis, but then I have to question does he know what that means. When asked what animal he would like to be, he switched his answer from a cheetah to a koala bear. I don't want a Koala bear (this actually happened and shouldn't be used a sign of anything meaningful but I think it's important to mention). Apart from the assessments in character those are facts. Sorry you're blinded by your refusal to draft the best player for the future. My goal of drafting the best player is why I want to pick him. What you see with JJJ is what Kevin Garnett would have looked like had he played a year of college ball. That’s his 99 percentile outcome. His floor is Ibaka. His most likely outcome is a better shooting LaMarcus Aldridge. He does compare more favorably to Bosh than someone else does. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EazyRoc Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, KB21 said: My goal of drafting the best player is why I want to pick him. What you see with JJJ is what Kevin Garnett would have looked like had he played a year of college ball. That’s his 99 percentile outcome. His floor is Ibaka. His most likely outcome is a better shooting LaMarcus Aldridge. He does compare more favorably to Bosh than someone else does. I know I said I was done but OMFG did you just say KG ?!?! LOL!!!!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benhillboy Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 If it’s a guard, someone who doesn’t mind playing off the ball. Prince made some very impressive plays late season when he realized he didn’t have to rush all the time. And a creative passer to force the ball to Collins’ good hands. As far as C I want Dedmon on steroids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benhillboy Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 This may be a stupid question but why are we looking at 4s with Collins anyway? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EazyRoc Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 Just now, benhillboy said: This may be a stupid question but why are we looking at 4s with Collins anyway? A lot of us just want the BPA regardless of the position he plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davis171 Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 2 hours ago, NBASupes said: https://www.thestepien.com/2018/01/04/coles-draft-reflections/ Their #1 guy was Markelle Fultz Doesn’t mean in 10 years he won’t be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davis171 Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 2 hours ago, hazer said: This site has been there and done this more than most experts and NBA execs, with one Marvin Williams. We’ve already seen the ending of this movie... I’m crying at the Marvin Williams comp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathan2331 Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 This may be a stupid question but why are we looking at 4s with Collins anyway? The only PF at the top of the draft is Bagley. JJJ, Bamba and Ayton are all comfortably centers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrell Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 47 minutes ago, KB21 said: My goal of drafting the best player is why I want to pick him. What you see with JJJ is what Kevin Garnett would have looked like had he played a year of college ball. That’s his 99 percentile outcome. His floor is Ibaka. His most likely outcome is a better shooting LaMarcus Aldridge. He does compare more favorably to Bosh than someone else does. I know you like JJJ and all, but now Im beginning to think you're actually Jaren Jackson Sr. lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathan2331 Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 My goal of drafting the best player is why I want to pick him. What you see with JJJ is what Kevin Garnett would have looked like had he played a year of college ball. That’s his 99 percentile outcome. His floor is Ibaka. His most likely outcome is a better shooting LaMarcus Aldridge. He does compare more favorably to Bosh than someone else does. Nope not buying it. JJJ doesn't have KG's intensity, and that might've been KG's biggest asset. Maybe he can develop it and somewhat change his trajectory but he's got Marvin mentality right now. You know what that looks like. Don't fall for it again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNorthCydeRises Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 1 hour ago, EazyRoc said: I know I said I was done but OMFG did you just say KG ?!?! LOL!!!!!! Rookie KG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNorthCydeRises Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 Jaren Jackson Jr career high Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNorthCydeRises Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 Marvin Bagley career high Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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