And so....it begins! NBA Season Restarts! July 30th - October 12th.

[bleachkit]

Just now, marco102 said:

@AHF explained it to you. It's not above and beyond. I'm pretty sure if they US only had to test  1,000 people everyone could get a test .

You act like liability doesn't exist. Let's say LeBron gets it and there's no testing available and it severally damages his lungs.  You know the NBA could get sued for negligence because they weren't taking proper precautions. 

The NBA isn't doing this for PR. Like how many of us actually care if they are in a bubble. NO ONE.  They are doing it to make sure they aren't held liable.  

Many businesses are doing temperature checks and turning people away with temperatures. The NBA can afford to test their players and do temp check because it's not that many of them.   My business does temp checks and we turn employees with temps around at the door and tells them to go get tested. 

Again, if you think this is some hoax or something you probably should talk to my uncle about it. It almost killed him and he's still not right.  It shouldn't have to personally affect you for you to give a damn about people. You don't know who they have in their lives or what. You're literally complaining to complain.

Nice strawman. Did I say it was a hoax? I said they should use temp checks and wellness checks, like many other businesses are doing. But what they are doing with mass testing of asymptomatic people is most certainly above and beyond other businesses. I'm not disputing their right to do it, but NBA players in a bubble getting more Covid tests than doctors and nurses on the front lines is overkill.

[bleachkit]

12 minutes ago, kg01 said:

They've already answered your question, several times over.  You just don't like the answer so you're choosing to continue shaking your fist at windmills.

Here's a summary of the answers about why Sports leagues need more precautions and testing then any other business or health care entity.  1. Because they make a lot of money, 2. The league has the money to do it. Um, ok. Go find an epidemiologist, and ask him which economic sector needs the most precautions and testing. His answer might be... "nursing home employees", or "hospital employees," but it sure as heck won't be "sports leagues." 

[AHF]

1 hour ago, bleachkit said:

So Walmart, with a market capitalization of 338 billion dollars, does not have the resources to the test their employees? That is complete bull. 

There are still people who can't get access to tests when they want it and certainly not same day testing.  My work group recently had a scare where we paid to expedite testing of individuals identified through contact tracing and could not get the tests that same day or results sooner than 3-4 days from when we started and that was after paying the premium for expedited process.

You think there are 1.5M tests per day available to Wal-Mart so they can do daily testing of their employees?  You think they have access to 7.5M tests per week (average of 5 working days per US employee)?

Please.  We all know testing is not accessible for normal employers like this.  Or if you actually worked as part of the coronavirus team for a sizable employer you would know this is not practical.  That is wholly apart from the economics - it is logistically impossible for a normal employer.  The NBA has access that normal employers don't.  (And for them the economics on this make sense unlike for a normal business.)

[bleachkit]

3 minutes ago, AHF said:

There are still people who can't get access to tests when they want it and certainly not same day testing.  My work group recently had a scare where we paid to expedite testing of individuals identified through contact tracing and could not get the tests that same day or results sooner than 3-4 days from when we started and that was after paying the premium for expedited process.

You think there are 1.5M tests per day available to Wal-Mart so they can do daily testing of their employees?  You think they have access to 7.5M tests per week (average of 5 working days per employee)?

Please.  We all know testing is not accessible for normal employers like this.  Or if you actually worked as part of the coronavirus team for a sizable employer you would know this is not practical.

If your argument is test availability, then fine. But you originally made the economic argument, and Amazon or Walmart could certainly afford to spends hundreds of millions on testing if they choose to.

[JayBirdHawk]

23 minutes ago, bleachkit said:

Nice strawman. Did I say it was a hoax? I said they should use temp checks and wellness checks, like many other businesses are doing. But what they are doing with mass testing of asymptomatic people is most certainly above and beyond other businesses. I'm not disputing their right to do it, but NBA players in a bubble getting more Covid tests than doctors and nurses on the front lines is overkill.

Nurses, Doctors, Walmart Workers, you, me - we can all have some level of 'protection' via masks, gloves, partitions, social distancing etc. while we are actively doing our jobs.

When the whistle blows and the ball gets tossed - the NBA players have no such luxury. Lots of droplets, sweat, licking figures, touching the ball and each other - easier spread - so - yes - it's important to test especially if you add the no quarantine aspect.  These players have wives (some pregnant),kids with issues, parents or grandparents that live with them etc. 

 

[AHF]

3 minutes ago, bleachkit said:

If your argument is test availability, then fine. But you originally made the economic argument, and Amazon or Walmart could certainly afford to spends hundreds of millions on testing if they choose to.

I said they lacked the resources to test people and couldn't test them daily.  That is precisely the case.  Not sure why you think test availability is irrelevant to the resources necessary to test.

Economics are a separate issue.  I think you may have an unrealistic idea of the gap between available capital for spending and market cap but that is a discussion for another day.  

Normal employers cannot physically replicate what the NBA is doing and it is meaningless to contrast what an employer with the non-publicly available resources (not just money) can do to a normal company.  This goes back to the beginning.  When normal employers couldn't even get employees with symptoms tested, the NBA was getting asymptomatic testing of all sorts of people.  The available resources are not remotely comparable.

[macdaddy]

12 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

When the whistle blows and the ball gets tossed - the NBA players have no such luxury. Lots of droplets, sweat, licking figures, touching the ball and each other - easier spread - so - yes - it's important to test especially if you add the no quarantine aspect.  These players have wives (some pregnant),kids with issues, parents or grandparents that live with them etc. 

Yeah exactly.  I didn't even think this needed mentioning but obviously it does.   I mean if my job required this type of contact you damn straight i'm not doing it without some serious precautions. 

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8 minutes ago, macdaddy said:

Yeah exactly.  I didn't even think this needed mentioning but obviously it does.   

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[Spud2nique]

51 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

 

 

 

 

 

I wanna be a part of this! Go Hawks!

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48 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

 

 

I just drove by the earthquakes practice facility small world! 

Their old one!

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IT'S OFFICIAL!!!

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NEW YORK – The National Basketball Association and the National Basketball Players Association announced today that they have finalized a comprehensive plan for a July 30 restart to the 2019-20 season, which includes stringent health and safety protocols, a single-site campus at Walt Disney World Resort in Florida and the goal of taking collective action to combat systemic racism and promote social justice.

In addition, the NBA and Disney have reached an agreement that makes the Arena, the Field House and Visa Athletic Center at ESPN Wide World of Sports Complex the venues for all games for the remainder of the season, which will resume with 22 teams returning to play and with no fans in attendance.

The NBA and the NBPA confirmed today an agreement on health and safety protocols that will govern the resumption of the season.  The rigorous program, which addresses risks related to COVID-19 and focuses on the well-being of players, coaches, officials and staff, was developed in consultation with public health experts, infectious disease specialists and government officials.

As announced on Wednesday, the NBA and the NBPA have agreed in principle that the goal of the season restart will be to find tangible and sustainable ways to address racial inequality across the country.  Leaders from the NBA and the NBPA have also discussed strategies to increase Black representation across the NBA and its teams, ensure greater inclusion of Black-owned and operated businesses across NBA business activities, and form an NBA foundation to expand educational and economic development opportunities across the Black community.  In recognition that long-term change can only come from an informed and sustained commitment, conversations regarding these efforts will continue and additional details will be released at a later date.

“We have worked together with the Players Association to establish a restart plan that prioritizes health and safety, preserves competitive fairness and provides a platform to address social justice issues,” said NBA Commissioner Adam Silver.  “We are grateful to our longtime collaborator Disney for its role in playing host and making this return to play possible, and we also thank the public health officials and infectious disease specialists who helped guide the creation of comprehensive medical protocols and protections.”

“It is very exciting to officially announce the restart of the 2019-2020 season,” said NBPA Executive Director Michele Roberts.  “It has taken true collaboration between the League and the Union – special kudos to our Executive Committee and several other team reps – along with the continued support and assistance from medical experts, public health officials and many others.  Additionally, our platform in Orlando presents a unique opportunity to extend the ongoing fight against systemic racism and police brutality in this country.  We will continue to work with our players and the League to develop specific plans in Orlando as well as long-term initiatives to bring about real change on these issues.”

“We’re glad to be able to provide a unique venue where the NBA can resume its season at ESPN Wide World of Sports Complex,” said Josh D’Amaro, Chairman, Disney Parks, Experiences and Products.  “We look forward to welcoming the players, coaches and staff to Walt Disney World Resort as they prepare for the exciting return of professional basketball.”

https://pr.nba.com/nba-nbpa-finalize-plan-2019-20-season-restart/

 

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[Spud2nique]

43 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

 

 

 

 

 

Hell ya a bunch of Rip Hamilton knock off masks for everyone and weird new angles of players a$$es. Go Silver go!!! 

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The Delete Eight??

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Once the Orlando operation is up and running, the league and the NBPA will decide what to do about the eight teams that aren’t taking part (Charlotte, Chicago, New York, Detroit, Atlanta, Minnesota, Cleveland, Golden State). All those players face the prospect of going nearly six months without facing NBA opponents, and sources say there is significant support from most of those teams for the possibility of a secondary campus site where they would train, compete and even play televised games in much the same way they plan to in Orlando.

Those ideas have been shared openly on the league’s weekly general manager’s call, sources say, with the latest iteration on Thursday including optimism that a solution would be found and a continued focus on building an environment that’s on par with the Walt Disney World campus when it comes to the extensive precautions taken. Sources say the Cavs, Pistons and Hawks have been among the most vocal organizations and several teams (including the Timberwolves) are expressing interest in possibly serving as the hosts. Sources say Las Vegas and Houston were among the cities mentioned by league officials as possible locations on the Thursday call.

The Knicks, sources say, have expressed reservations about participating, in part because they have a roster with several soon-to-be free agents who might decline to take part (as many as eight players potentially). If accommodations could be made to help a team like the Knicks fill its roster by way of G League players, however, then that could be an X-factor of sorts.

The frustration from most of these teams, sources say, is that the ones not in Orlando now face a competitive disadvantage going forward when it comes to player and culture development. But while many team officials are holding out hope that this might happen, and were even encouraged by the Thursday call, sources have also said all along that the NBPA might not agree to any such proposal. Roberts, when asked, expressed significant concern over the idea.

“We’ve spent … a tremendous amount of time and energy coming up with a protocol that each of us is able to sleep at night knowing it’s the best we can do to mitigate the risk of an infection on our players and our teams and our staffs,” she said. “If I didn’t feel that way, I would be recommending to Chris and to the players to stay home. I feel that way, and so I can sleep at night.

“Candidly, while I appreciate (concerns) that there will be a bit of a layoff, I think there are some things these teams can do to get the guys that are not playing some (benefit) by their not being involved in Orlando. But unless we could replicate in every way the protocol that’s been established for Orlando, I’d be – I’m being tame now – suspicious. I think there are conversations that could be had if there’s anything we can do with the other eight teams. I know there are some players, particularly young players, that seem concerned they’re not getting enough [opportunities]. I think our teams are incredibly smart and creative and can come up with ways to get their guys engaged, if not now, before the season starts. But I am very concerned and frankly, my concern aside, our players, our teams are very concerned about any — in terms of play that doesn’t have the same guarantees of safety and health that we’ve provided for the teams in Orlando. So yeah, never say never, but there’s a standard. It’s a standard that’s got to be met, and if it’s not met, next question, as far as I’m concerned.”

Tatum weighed in on the matter as well.

“We know it’s something that our teams would love to do, that some of the players would love to do,” he said. “But as Michele said, it has to be done in the right way, and we’ll continue having those conversations with Michele and her team on what that looks like.”

 

 

 

[Spud2nique]

22 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

The Delete Eight??

 

 

 

I mean that’d be cool and all but what’s the end prize here? If I’m not playing for the O’Brien then I don’t know kinda lame