The Official NBASupes, Sothron, and theCampster Insider Thread - NBA 2022-23 Season

[terrell]

30 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

KD $47,649,433

Beal $46,741,590

Booker $36,016,200

Ayton $32,459,438

That's $162.7 million for 4 players. What Tax?

Good luck installing your DEFENSE Frank Vogel....

[ShooterSays]

Dame/Portland and whatever Phoenix decides to do with Ayton will be interesting over the next couple days.

If Dame decides to stay, Ayton could make sense for them. 

[benhillboy]

8 minutes ago, terrell said:

Good luck installing your DEFENSE Frank Vogel....

I think James Jones is too smart to make this move.  Seems like new ownership wanted to make another splash having no idea how two way basketball works, but that’s most people.  I feel for Frank, he is a defensive guy.  Beal and KD are gonna tune him out so quick.

I knew Miami had no real concrete interest in him, glad that foolishness is over.

Edited June 18, 2023 by benhillboy

[bleachkit]

33 minutes ago, kg01 said:

Rumors are Beal only accepted the deal if ayton was to be kept. 

Schlenk must have been beside himself. Awful deal. 

[kg01]

1 minute ago, benhillboy said:

I think James Jones is too smart to make this move.  Seems like new ownership wanted to make another splash having no idea how two way basketball works, but that’s most people.  I feel for Frank, he is a defensive guy.  

I knew Miami had no real concrete interest in him, glad that foolishness is over.

Agree this was an ownership move.  Disagree James Jones was "too smart".

[terrell]

3 minutes ago, benhillboy said:

I think James Jones is too smart to make this move.  Seems like new ownership wanted to make another splash having no idea how two way basketball works, but that’s most people.  I feel for Frank, he is a defensive guy.  

I knew Miami had no real concrete interest in him, glad that foolishness is over.

Imagine all of the mid range shots with Beal Booker and KD......... lol

[ShooterSays]

Always felt like Washington was overly loyal to Beal. That contract was too rich but they rewarded him with it anyways. And their thank you is a big f u. Couldn’t even choose a team with a FRP to send back. 

This could be the trade that kills the No-Trade Clause. Who’s going to want to hand that out again?

The KD trade earlier this year and now the Beal trade are not good for the league.

 

[JayBirdHawk]

4 minutes ago, ShooterSays said:

Always felt like Washington was overly loyal to Beal. That contract was too rich but they rewarded him with it anyways. And their thank you is a big f u. Couldn’t even choose a team with a FRP to send back. 

This could be the trade that kills the No-Trade Clause. Who’s going to want to hand that out again?

This is totally on the Wiz and bad management. They learned nothing from giving John Wall that contract then trading him for peanuts, then they essentially made the same mistake by maxing Beal and compund the issue further by giving him a NTC, now they traded him for a goose egg.

[theheroatl]

I don’t think the Suns have what it takes with Beal. The Nuggets and their chemistry really makes a difference in the end. Suns are just trying to copy the Lakers mold.

Good riddance to Beal in the Southeast. I bet Washington needs to get that FRP for Kristaps now.

[JayBirdHawk]

1 minute ago, theheroatl said:

Good riddance to Beal in the Southeast. I bet Washington needs to get that FRP for Kristaps now.

Depends on if KP opts in. Otherwise he is a FA and can sign anywhere leaving the Wiz with nothing.

[capstone21]

I think it is a terrible fit for PHX … a lot of redundancy of players who need the ball and really no defense 

[ShooterSays]

3 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

This is totally on the Wiz and bad management. They learned nothing from giving John Wall that contract then trading him for peanuts, then they essentially made the same mistake by maxing Beal and compund the issue further by giving him a NTC, now they traded him for a goose egg.

Correct. But I can at least respect that they chose loyalty to their guy.

Deals like this are only going to hurt the players in the future. 

[ShooterSays]

Portland should trade Dame ASAP. See if they can get Ayton for cheap and build around a core of Scoot / Ayton.

[JayBirdHawk]

Seems as if CP3's contract was fully guaranteed for the $30 mil to make the trade work (had a $15 mil partial).

 

 

 

[yungsta]

I doubt they gave Beal that contract due to loyalty. There is no loyalty in sports.

If I had to take a guess, Beal was ready to leave if he didn't get everything that he asked for and It was the ownership that was meddling and forced the gm to give him that contract because they didn't want to go through a rebuild under any circumstance and want to compete for a play-in seed.

 

 

 

Edited June 18, 2023 by yungsta

[JayBirdHawk]

10 minutes ago, ShooterSays said:

Portland should trade Dame ASAP. See if they can get Ayton for cheap and build around a core of Scoot / Ayton.

Or they can keep Dame, trade for Ayton by sending Suns Nurkic and Little and still draft at #3.

[ShooterSays]

1 minute ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Or they can keep Dame, trade for Ayton by sending Suns Nurkic and Little and still draft at #3.

In my opinion, it’s only a matter of time before Dame asks out. Seems like every other superstar is doing it lol

Even if they make those trades and draft at 3, it’s not a championship roster. 

Take Scoot, and get a draft pick haul for Dame. 

[Spud2nique]

1 hour ago, JayBirdHawk said:

They are said to be holding out hope for Dame.

Don’t do it Dame. Remain loyal you’re almost there! 

[NekiEcko]

You know I can see Phoenix doing that for getting Dame but the two questions is 1) Who is going to be on their bench and 2) Who is going to play defense and they already in second apron land too.

[Spud2nique]

20 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Seems as if CP3's contract was fully guaranteed for the $30 mil to make the trade work (had a $15 mil partial).

 

 

 

Hmm… I kinda like the Clippers in the west cuz of Kawhi. So Kawhi, PG13, CP3… ok.. load management to the max again for them. Then make a run in May. 
 

I don’t know how much more CP3 has left in the tank. He needs to be a backup at this point in his career imo.