Premium Member Diesel Posted October 10, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted October 10, 2023 From the GM Survey... They have dysfunctional Philly, Lost NY, and Hopeless Miami ahead of us... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Popular Post Diesel Posted October 10, 2023 Author Premium Member Popular Post Report Share Posted October 10, 2023 IS Steph even a PG these days? 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Moderators AHF Posted October 10, 2023 Moderators Report Share Posted October 10, 2023 Just now, Diesel said: This is the biggest disrespect. Trae has been #1 or #2 in assists for multiple years running and didn't even get a vote. At least for team success, Atlanta finished behind all those teams last year and on paper is worse since we lost JC and added not a lot in terms of personnel. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted October 10, 2023 Report Share Posted October 10, 2023 Trae also lead the NBA in most overrated again and he's not even rated anymore. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShooterSays Posted October 10, 2023 Report Share Posted October 10, 2023 Just gotta win. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted October 10, 2023 Author Premium Member Report Share Posted October 10, 2023 1 hour ago, AHF said: This is the biggest disrespect. Trae has been #1 or #2 in assists for multiple years running and didn't even get a vote. At least for team success, Atlanta finished behind all those teams last year and on paper is worse since we lost JC and added not a lot in terms of personnel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg01 Posted October 11, 2023 Report Share Posted October 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Diesel said: Harden tho? Haha Also, when folks gonna stop pulling out the 'most overrated' thing as if that wasn't from like 7 players? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtLaS Posted October 11, 2023 Report Share Posted October 11, 2023 Most don't even have Trae in the top 20 players anymore so he can't be overrated. If we get a top 4 seed, 50+ wins and a decent showing in the playoffs he will move back up. Not being considered for a top passer though is the only disrespect. He's a top 3 passer in the NBA. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted October 11, 2023 Author Premium Member Report Share Posted October 11, 2023 I think sometimes, people sensationalize unexpected and make that be a strong consideration for Best. Trae has led the league in total assists for the last 2 years. His passes are great. Just because an unconventional guy can get assists doesn't make them a better passer than a guy who does this... By the numbers, Trae is better than Jokic, Luka and Lebron. By the wizardtry, he's better. These guys are just unconventional... that doesn't mean that they are the best. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDawg#8 Posted October 13, 2023 Report Share Posted October 13, 2023 Nique was a showstopper and a walking highlight and even his greatness was disrespected during his playing career. I don’t want to spend the next 10+ years miserable because “experts” keep getting it wrong. All we can do as fans is continue to show up for Trae and the Hawks. The haters and detractors will always be there. No need to let them steal our joy as Hawks nation! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Final_quest Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 We start winning and they say Trae changed his game from a foul baiting chucker to a team first guy who makes the right plays. They will never eat their words. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Mule Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 WHY? Why can't we Hawk fans have good things like other NBA teams? Example: Hawks signed one of the top coaches in the NBA. Betcha he's not a top coach now. Why? He's a Hawk. No Hawk player is a top player. No Hawk player is a bottom player. We're not good or bad. We just are! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Gray Mule said: WHY? Why can't we Hawk fans have good things like other NBA teams? Example: Hawks signed one of the top coaches in the NBA. Betcha he's not a top coach now. Why? He's a Hawk. No Hawk player is a top player. No Hawk player is a bottom player. We're not good or bad. We just are! Sad how the media stays a cas.. even decades later.. new team new narrative. I’ve never listened to the outside noise just kept lovin the Hawks. No amount of evil (the media) can break you if your heart is true. 3 minutes ago, Gray Mule said: No Hawk player is a top player. Trae is the assist king . Numbers don’t lie. Check that out MEDIA!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted October 16, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted October 16, 2023 what am I seeing? Hawks not even in his top 11. I can't man, is it April fools? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packfill Posted October 16, 2023 Report Share Posted October 16, 2023 If the Hawks win perspectives will change. Players, coaches, front office staff and fans all respect winning. I am fine with Trae and the Hawks needing to earn that respect by winning. The rest is noise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted October 17, 2023 Moderators Report Share Posted October 17, 2023 17 hours ago, Packfill said: If the Hawks win perspectives will change. Players, coaches, front office staff and fans all respect winning. I am fine with Trae and the Hawks needing to earn that respect by winning. The rest is noise. Miller's ranking had nothing to do with his perception on the Hawks. He just completely didn't think about them. I can see no possible explanation for him ranking a team like Orlando over the Hawks if he put in any real time thinking that through. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packfill Posted October 17, 2023 Report Share Posted October 17, 2023 49 minutes ago, AHF said: Miller's ranking had nothing to do with his perception on the Hawks. He just completely didn't think about them. I can see no possible explanation for him ranking a team like Orlando over the Hawks if he put in any real time thinking that through. I do not disagree with that. I was responding to the "disrespect" perception more globally. That said, there is no doubt that teams that stuck in mediocrity tend to get overlooked in favor of teams that are perceived to be on the rise. Orlando is one of the teams that a lot of people believe is "on the rise". They still seem like they are a year away to me, and that is only if they can find a guard that shoot. I do not know what they were thinking with the Jett Howard pick in the draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin capstone21 Posted October 17, 2023 Admin Report Share Posted October 17, 2023 On 10/10/2023 at 4:41 PM, Diesel said: IS Steph even a PG these days? The funny thing is Curry is not even a PG. He is an undersized shooting guard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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