KK to the Cavaliers

[AHF]

3 minutes ago, hazer said:

You realize Moose is shooting 45% from deep this year and 40% career, right?

Moose does a great job on low volume wide open 3's.  He isn't the guy spacing your floor or bringing the thunder from deep.  He averages less than 1 made 3 per game.

[red2play]

To me, it depends on the protected pick and from who.  If the cavs give the pick, then its worthless.  I hope we get some good talent.

[macdaddy]

This seems really disruptive to a team starting to play well just to nap a very late pick in 2 years.   His salary is a bargain and he certainly provides some leadership.  Other than getting Kyle a shot at a ring I'm just not seeing the logic in this if this is the only move.   And if there is much more to come then that potentially will suck too unless it involves flipping this pick and some dead weight for a legit wing.  

[lethalweapon3]

~lw3

[Guest]

Folks...DROP EVERYTHING UR WORKING ON RIGHT NOW...LEBRON WANTS A PG AND THIS IS THE LAST TIME HES ASKING...-Cavs Brass

[lethalweapon3]

I'm still holding out for a photocopier as part of the final deal.

~lw3

[DS17Fanboy]

He likes Dennis allot. I think Jefferson and some picks?

 

I mean:

Mo Williams

Buddy Hield

Richard Jefferson

....

Howard

 

tasty

Edited January 6, 2017 by DS17Fanboy

[Guest]

Just now, lethalweapon3 said:

I'm still holding out for a photocopier as part of the final deal.

~lw3

No! Lighting does not occur twice...lol

 

Was it the Nets that sent that printer to Philly...oh prolly philly to Nets ..

 

Can a photocopier shoot 3's ???

[Guest]

Can we send a printer and Dunleavy for anything? We will even wrap the copier and dress Mike Dun in a sky blue tux...any takers????

[lethalweapon3]

Just now, Spud2Nique said:

Can a photocopier shoot 3's ???

No, but it can collate and staple like like a mofo. At least until it jams, then it's useless.

No one understands why I call my office copier "Al."

~lw3

[lethalweapon3]

I'm told Mike & Mo...

~lw3

[lethalweapon3]

49 minutes ago, Spud2Nique said:

Folks...DROP EVERYTHING UR WORKING ON RIGHT NOW...LEBRON WANTS A PG AND THIS IS THE LAST TIME HES ASKING...-Cavs Brass

We already gave y'all Kay Felder, Cavs, quit buggin' us!

~lw3

[macdaddy]

4 minutes ago, lethalweapon3 said:

I'm told Mike & Mo...

~lw3

Step right up and get some crap!

[lethalweapon3]

Hey, at least we got an All-Star*** out of the deal, right?

~lw3

[TheNorthCydeRises]

4 hours ago, Sothron said:

I'm not sure we are rebuilding. Honestly trading Korver doesn't really make us worse than we are now. We play significantly better without him on the court than we do with him on the court.

Here's another thing.  I think Kyle was actually a crutch or "safety net" for Bud.  He was almost trying to force feed Kyle into games, even when he was ineffective, just to have that shooting threat out on the floor.  

A lot of people thought that Kyle was the key to our entire offensive attack from a spacing standpoint, because you always have to have a guy near him at the 3 point line.   Bud probably thought that too.   But as the Hawks played better and better WITHOUT Kyle on the floor, it became apparent that we really don't need him as much as people believed.

Also, Bud had to "hide" Korver on defense, or give him help.  If he didn't, teams salivated when players went ISO against Kyle.  Like other have said, he hasn't been the same defensively, since Delly took him out in the 2015 playoffs.

I honestly want the Hawks to stay put with the moves right now.  Let's see how this team plays the next couple of weeks.  And let's see if Bud gives more time to the rookies, specifically Prince.

The other thing that was encouraging about last night, is that Bud didn't stick with Bazemore long, who had another subpar game.   Even with Korver not active, Baze only played 21 minutes.   Thabo got extended minutes ( and was +14 by the way . . . which was my assertion last night about who the REAL X-factor on this team is ), and Bembry gave us a very solid 14 minutes with 6 points and decent defense.  

So I really want to see a scenario in which the rookies get ALL of Kyle's 28 minutes, with the most minutes going to the guy who may be playing the best.

 

I would love to see a wing rotation like this:

SG - Baze ( 24 ) - Hardaway Jr ( 22 ) - Bembry ( 2 )

SF - Thabo ( 26 ) - Prince ( 14 ) - Bembry ( 8 )

 

If someone is balling, extend their minutes.

[Thomas]

9 minutes ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

Here's another thing.  I think Kyle was actually a crutch or "safety net" for Bud.  He was almost trying to force feed Kyle into games, even when he was ineffective, just to have that shooting threat out on the floor.  

A lot of people thought that Kyle was the key to our entire offensive attack from a spacing standpoint, because you always have to have a guy near him at the 3 point line.   Bud probably thought that too.   But as the Hawks played better and better WITHOUT Kyle on the floor, it became apparent that we really don't need him as much as people believed.

Also, Bud had to "hide" Korver on defense, or give him help.  If he didn't, teams salivated when players went ISO against Kyle.  Like other have said, he hasn't been the same defensively, since Delly took him out in the 2015 playoffs.

I honestly want the Hawks to stay put with the moves right now.  Let's see how this team plays the next couple of weeks.  And let's see if Bud gives more time to the rookies, specifically Prince.

The other thing that was encouraging about last night, is that Bud didn't stick with Bazemore long, who had another subpar game.   Even with Korver not active, Baze only played 21 minutes.   Thabo got extended minutes ( and was +14 by the way . . . which was my assertion last night about who the REAL X-factor on this team is ), and Bembry gave us a very solid 14 minutes with 6 points and decent defense.  

So I really want to see a scenario in which the rookies get ALL of Kyle's 28 minutes, with the most minutes going to the guy who may be playing the best.

 

I would love to see a wing rotation like this:

SG - Baze ( 24 ) - Hardaway Jr ( 22 ) - Bembry ( 2 )

SF - Thabo ( 26 ) - Prince ( 14 ) - Bembry ( 8 )

 

If someone is balling, extend their minutes.

Great post and I like the minutes structure and then see where it goes. We would be better prepared for the playoffs with that.

[lethalweapon3]

You mean like when we traded your behind to Dallas, JET? Totally didn't work out for you, did it?

~lw3

[Thomas]

12 minutes ago, lethalweapon3 said:

Hey, at least we got an All-Star*** out of the deal, right?

~lw3

Guess it wasn't possible to find a taker for Dunleavy huh. 

[TheNorthCydeRises]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CLE/2017.html

Look at the injury report part of that list.   Apparently, Mo Williams is looking to reach a buyout agreement, and then retire.  He hasn't reported to the Cavs all year.  I thought he was just hurt.

So we'll get Mo, buy him out, and possibly keep Dunleavy?

Interesting.

( edit ) - For the record though, if they keep Dunleavy, he should be right back in the position he was with the Cavs . . . at the end of the bench.   At 36 years old, there's no way he should be getting playing time over the young rookies.

Edited January 6, 2017 by TheNorthCydeRises

[hazer]

Am I the only one who noticed the pick is only "Top 10" protected? If it's 11th (fat chance I know), it's ours. So Hawks just dealt KK for a possible lottery pick in '19. I said possible...