The Hawks Backcourt: Trae and Dejounte

[TheNorthCydeRises]

On 9/14/2022 at 11:31 PM, MarylandHawk said:

I want to know who was the point guard on Trae’s HS teams. Must have been a bad mofo to push Trae to the two. 

Probably just a smaller guy who could make sure that Trae got the ball. 

A lot of high school teams are actually small. So for a 6-1 Trae to be the 2, wouldn't be unusual.

What that probably says though, is that they had no other legit scorers on the team. So having Trae play the 2 ( as a scoring combo guard ) was probably the right call.

[TheNorthCydeRises]

This was 30 yrs ago, but here was our lineup in high school

Me: 5-9 ( pure passer) 

2-gauard: 6-4 ( pure shooter )

F: 6-1 ( athletic defender ) 

F: 6-1 ( athletic slasher )

F: 6-3 ( post player )

 

So our biggest guy was our best shooter. And our athletes were our best defenders and rebounder.

Trae would definitely play the 2 on my team, with my job being to get him, and our 6-4 shooter the ball. 

[bleachkit]

8 hours ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

This was 30 yrs ago, but here was our lineup in high school

Me: 5-9 ( pure passer) 

2-gauard: 6-4 ( pure shooter )

F: 6-1 ( athletic defender ) 

F: 6-1 ( athletic slasher )

F: 6-3 ( post player )

 

So our biggest guy was our best shooter. And our athletes were our best defenders and rebounder.

Trae would definitely play the 2 on my team, with my job being to get him, and our 6-4 shooter the ball. 

People dont realize how uncommon it is to be 6'7 and up. Less than a fraction of 1% of men are 6'7" or taller. 

[JayBirdHawk]

 

 

[RedDawg#8]

1 hour ago, JayBirdHawk said:

 

 

When I tell you, we are going look night and day different on the court next season, we have never seen Trae play with another playmaker as good as Murray before. And the last time we had two guards remotely close was Teague/Schröder, and they almost never got to share the court with each other. 

You would have to go back to the Iso-Joe/ J Crawford days to find a backcourt that is even remotely close to the talent of Trae and Murray. And they weren't even in the same zip code as passers. 

We are in for a real treat this season!

[Gray Mule]

Everything is different.  Yet it's all the same.  Red Velvet is gone.  Murray has arrived.  We are all hoping to see Jalen Johnson as one of the regular rotation players.  Starters from last season?  Yep.  Mostly still around.

Bench.  This looks different, kinda.  Traded one of our big men.  Added another big man.  Rotating Trae and Murray means one of them probably plays a lot of minutes with the bench.  If they both start and play a lot together, we must have a PG with the bench.

Decesions!  Decesions!  Where do all the pieces fit in this picture puzzle?  What about our two rookie draft picks?  Where do they fit in all of this?  I assume they will both see some action.

Then there are all the new additions.  Ready or not, here we come!

[JayBirdHawk]

 

Love this!

Dejounte has no plans to proceed quietly in situations where he believes his candor can improve the team.

"I think I'm being vocal. I'm just a natural leader. I'm not holding back. Coach doesn't want me to hold back. My teammates don't want me to hold back. If they see something from me, they can explain it to me and move on. If I see something, I'm going to speak up, because at the end of the day, we all have the same goals. We want to bring the best out of one another." 

 

[Spud2nique]

DM draws Trae  

 

 

   

[Spud2nique]

Wtfffffff I can honestly say I’m a better drawer and I thought I was the worst  

He forgot the baby goatie!!!

[JayBirdHawk]

 

 

[Atlantaholic]

1 hour ago, JayBirdHawk said:

 

 

No two players on the same team have ever finished a season 1 and 2 in assists, have they?

[Diesel]

Through two games, Trae is leading the league in assists and DJM is third... That's SCARY...

[benhillboy]

The early returns are monstrous.  Dejounte already with more dunks than Kevin last season (team averaging 6.5 per). Trae’s assisted field goal % waaaay up from last season (2 pointers up 19%, assisted 3s up 38%) and the corner three frequency up from 4 to 10%, shooting 50% of course.  Not worried about the poor field goal or eFG early at all, he’ll be around 44% and .525 in no time.

So happy Landry and Kyle are here adding sophistication and variance to the team floor game.

As much as I’m a stickler for defense I literally don’t care about Trae’s struggles (only Jalen has a lower rating so far) if he becomes a viable off ball, full-floor scorer.  He’s no longer the sole guy so him setting a defensive tone isn’t that important anymore.  John, DeJounte, Clint, and Aaron flashing super low defensive ratings to start.

 

Edited October 22, 2022 by benhillboy

[benhillboy]

If Trae can continue to shoot over 90% from the line and keep the assist to turn around his current 2.88:1 (2.42:1 last season) I’d consider that a rousing success of a season alone.  Those two factors drive his offensive impact the most.

Edited October 22, 2022 by benhillboy

[JayBirdHawk]

Effort on defense from Trae is all I ask. So far so good.

 

 

[ShooterSays]

 

[JayBirdHawk]

 

 

[Spud2nique]

Dejounte reminds me of a player from the past, I can’t put my finger on it but when he glides around specially after a steal on a breakaway… I can’t put my finger on who though.. it’s a bit Pippen like but that’s not it, it’s somebody else. 
 

@JayBirdHawk Your boy is amazing. I remember you scouting him up to a few years ago, foresight was excellent, prolly the best pairing for Trae of any player. BURD from waaaayyy downtownnnn BAAAAAAAAAANNNNGGGGG!!!!!!!  

[swanlee]

1 hour ago, ShooterSays said:

 

He's going to be great for us and be a legit star in his own right

[Gray Mule]

2 hours ago, Spud2nique said:

Dejounte reminds me of a player from the past, I can’t put my finger on it but when he glides around specially after a steal on a breakaway… I can’t put my finger on who though.. it’s a bit Pippen like but that’s not it, it’s somebody else. 
 

@JayBirdHawk Your boy is amazing. I remember you scouting him up to a few years ago, foresight was excellent, prolly the best pairing for Trae of any player. BURD from waaaayyy downtownnnn BAAAAAAAAAANNNNGGGGG!!!!!!!  

Could you mean "Plastic man?"