The 3-point Conundrum

[Wretch]

Much as I go on about a sniper in the starting lineup...Jalen Johnson has crept up to a very quiet 42% on 3s. 

[Atlantaholic]

12 hours ago, Wretch said:

Much as I go on about a sniper in the starting lineup...Jalen Johnson has crept up to a very quiet 42% on 3s. 

He needs to stop passing up open threes and let it fly. 

[JayBirdHawk]

On 11/12/2023 at 8:58 AM, JayBirdHawk said:

Thru the first 9 games of the regular season:

36% and over

Wes - 100% (2-2)

AJ - 45.5% (5-11)

DJ - 41.8% (23-55)

Bey - 38.5% (15-39)

Bogi - 36.2% (25-69)

 

30%-35%

JJ - 34.6% (9-26)

Hunter - 33.3% (15-45)

 

29% and under

Trae - 29.4% (20-68)

OO - 25.0% (2-8)

 

Biggest rise - DJ: +8.5% (16-34 over the last 4 games )

Biggest fall - Hunter:  -7.4% (4-18 over the last 4 games).

OO finally gets on the board and hits 2 in one game as did Wes who makes his first appearance.

Slight upwards ticks for JJ and Trae, downwards for Bogi, Bey and AJ.

Thru 14 games:

36% and over

Wes - 57.1% (4-7)

AJ - 42.9% (6-14)

JJ - 42.1% (16-38)

DJ - 41.0% (34-83)

Bey - 38.7% (24-63)

 

30%-35%

Bogi  - 34.8% (40-115)

Hunter - 34.4% (22-64)

Trae - 34.3% (35-102)

 

29% and under

OO - 21.4% (3-14)

 

Biggest rise - JJ: +7.4% (5-10 over the last 4 games )

Most Surprising fall - Bogi:  shooting UNDER 35% 

Trae finally above 30% (41.8% over his last 5 games).

[Final_quest]

27 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Thru 13 games:

36% and over

Wes - 57.1% (4-7)

AJ - 42.9% (6-14)

JJ - 42.1% (16-38)

DJ - 41.0% (34-83)

Bey - 38.7% (24-63)

 

30%-35%

Bogi  - 34.8% (40-115)

Hunter - 34.4% (22-64)

Trae - 34.3% (35-102)

 

29% and under

OO - 21.4% (3-14)

 

Biggest rise - JJ: +7.4% (5-10 over the last 4 games )

Most Surprising fall - Bogi:  shooting UNDER 35% 

Trae finally above 30% (41.8% over his last 5 games).

Okongwu needs to spend a couple more summers on that jump shot.  The NBA has the best players in the world.  You can't always acquire those skills in a summer.

Jalen actually had a history of making outside shots.  He's really good about not forcing it and taking the shot when open and in rhythm.  He's not a gunner like Bogi or Bey, but at his age he's got time to develop a quick trigger.  For now it looks like Jalen is establishing the ability to make a shot when open.  That's a huge upgrade from last year.      

[JayBirdHawk]

On 11/24/2023 at 10:21 AM, JayBirdHawk said:

Thru 14 games:

36% and over

Wes - 57.1% (4-7)

AJ - 42.9% (6-14)

JJ - 42.1% (16-38)

DJ - 41.0% (34-83)

Bey - 38.7% (24-63)

 

30%-35%

Bogi  - 34.8% (40-115)

Hunter - 34.4% (22-64)

Trae - 34.3% (35-102)

 

29% and under

OO - 21.4% (3-14)

 

Biggest rise - JJ: +7.4% (5-10 over the last 4 games )

Most Surprising fall - Bogi:  shooting UNDER 35% 

Trae finally above 30% (41.8% over his last 5 games).

Thru 19 games:

36% and over

JJ - 42.5% (17-40) *15 games 

Bey - 40.0% (34-85)

DJ - 39.3% (44-112)

Bogi - 38.9% (58-149)

Garrison - 36.4% (4-11)

 

30%-35%

Hunter - 35.9% (33-92)

Trae - 35.3% (55-156)

AJ - 33.3% (8-24)

Wes - 31.3% (5-16)

 

29% and under

OO - 23.8% (5-21)

 

 Bogi: finally shooting his normal expected percentages

Falling:

Wes: 1-9 in last games

AJ: 2-10 in last games

[benhillboy]

2 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Thru 19 games:

36% and over

JJ - 42.5% (17-40) *15 games 

Bey - 40.0% (34-85)

DJ - 39.3% (44-112)

Bogi - 38.9% (58-149)

Garrison - 36.4% (4-11)

 

30%-35%

Hunter - 35.9% (33-92)

Trae - 35.3% (55-156)

AJ - 33.3% (8-24)

Wes - 31.3% (5-16)

 

29% and under

OO - 23.8% (5-21)

 

 Bogi: finally shooting his normal expected percentages

Falling:

Wes: 1-9 in last games

AJ: 2-10 in last games

10th in attempts (37.4) and 9th in percentage (.372) overall: ideal volume and solid efficiency.  A far cry from last season where they were hemorrhaging blood with Nate in, Bogi out, and finished at 28th and 21st, respectively.  
 

Trae picked it up and seems to be in a rhythm with his.  That boy can spike his shooting percentages with the best of em after a terrible start.  DJ’s improvement has been big.  He was a brick artist in SA: I pretty much expect him to make all his open and rhythm looks now (I expect Bogi to hit 2 feet behind the line with a contest lol).  He extended his midrange mastery out better than say a DeRozan and it’s also paying dividends at the line as he’s posting a career high % by far.

Edited December 3, 2023 by benhillboy

[benhillboy]

I never been a fan of teams taking 40+ unless you’re facing a dreadful three point defending team (like us ) or have The Splash Bros.

Edited December 3, 2023 by benhillboy

[JayBirdHawk]

On 12/3/2023 at 3:39 PM, JayBirdHawk said:

Thru 19 games:

36% and over

JJ - 42.5% (17-40) *15 games 

Bey - 40.0% (34-85)

DJ - 39.3% (44-112)

Bogi - 38.9% (58-149)

 

Garrison - 36.4% (4-11)

 

30%-35%

Hunter - 35.9% (33-92)

Trae - 35.3% (55-156)

AJ - 33.3% (8-24)

Wes - 31.3% (5-16)

 

29% and under

OO - 23.8% (5-21)

 

 Bogi: finally shooting his normal expected percentages

Falling:

Wes: 1-9 in last games

AJ: 2-10 in last games

Thru 22 games:

36% and over

JJ - 42.5% (17-40) *15 games 

Bogi - 40.3% (75-186)

Bey - 39.4% (41-104)

Hunter - 37.3% (38-102)

DJ - 38.5% (50-130)

 

30%-35%

Trae - 35.3% (60-170)

AJ - 32.0% (8-25)

Garrison - 29.4% (5-17)

 

29% and under

Wes - 22.7% (5-22)

OO - 20.0% (5-25)

 

 Bogi: The top spot where he belongs and finally over 40% (*JJ is out)

Falling: The Mat(t)hews

Wes: 1-15 in last games

AJ: 2-12 in last games

GM: 1-6 in last games

[AHF]

Hunter should be bumped up a group.

[JayBirdHawk]

On 12/12/2023 at 6:17 PM, JayBirdHawk said:

Thru 22 games:

36% and over

JJ - 42.5% (17-40) *15 games 

Bogi - 40.3% (75-186)

Bey - 39.4% (41-104)

Hunter - 37.3% (38-102)

DJ - 38.5% (50-130)

 

30%-35%

Trae - 35.3% (60-170)

AJ - 32.0% (8-25)

Garrison - 29.4% (5-17)

 

29% and under

Wes - 22.7% (5-22)

OO - 20.0% (5-25)

 

 Bogi: The top spot where he belongs and finally over 40% (*JJ is out)

Falling: The Mat(t)hews

Wes: 1-15 in last games

AJ: 2-12 in last games

GM: 1-6 in last games

Thru 25 games:

36% and over

Garrison - 47.8% (11-23)

JJ - 42.5% (17-40) *15 games

Bogi - 41.0% (82-200)

Hunter - 38.5% (40-104)

Trae - 37.9% (78-206)

DJ - 36.7% (55-150)

 

30%-35.9%

Bey - 35.5% (44-124)

AJ - 32.0% (8-25) * out personnal

OO - 30.6% (11-36)

 

29.9% and under

Wes - 22.0% (6-27)

 

 Rising: Mat-Hues, all his shots are 3ptrs. Zero 2pt shot attempts.

Falling: Saddiq Bey

OO finally out of the basement.

[macdaddy]

How have I watched every game and still missed all of Garrison's 11 threes?  I'm not open minded about that guy at all.  

[Gray Mule]

4 hours ago, macdaddy said:

How have I watched every game and still missed all of Garrison's 11 threes?  I'm not open minded about that guy at all.  

Slipped that one in on you, didn't they!  Stop wandering off every time he is on the floor.  

[JayBirdHawk]

9 hours ago, macdaddy said:

How have I watched every game and still missed all of Garrison's 11 threes?  I'm not open minded about that guy at all.  

 

 

[macdaddy]

12 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said:

 

 

Yet i still wish he wasn't playing.  He's definitely better than Wes though. 

[AHF]

48 minutes ago, macdaddy said:

Yet i still wish he wasn't playing.  He's definitely better than Wes though. 

He is now a player who can't do anything well other than shoot jumpers who isn't hurting you with his low % on jumpers.  That is an improvement but not a good backup.

[JayBirdHawk]

 

 

[JayBirdHawk]

On 12/18/2023 at 10:26 AM, macdaddy said:

How have I watched every game and still missed all of Garrison's 11 threes?  I'm not open minded about that guy at all.  

Now you know why you're not open minded about him....0-5 in his last 2 games. He should not be starting.

Just start Bogi Quin.

[macdaddy]

On 12/24/2023 at 10:34 AM, JayBirdHawk said:

Now you know why you're not open minded about him....0-5 in his last 2 games. He should not be starting.

Just start Bogi Quin.

He should not be playing.  I love the hustle but you have to play talent in this league.  

[JayBirdHawk]

On 12/17/2023 at 8:36 AM, JayBirdHawk said:

Thru 25 games:

36% and over

Garrison - 47.8% (11-23)

JJ - 42.5% (17-40) *15 games

Bogi - 41.0% (82-200)

Hunter - 38.5% (40-104)

Trae - 37.9% (78-206)

DJ - 36.7% (55-150)

 

30%-35.9%

Bey - 35.5% (44-124)

AJ - 32.0% (8-25) * out personnal

OO - 30.6% (11-36)

 

29.9% and under

Wes - 22.0% (6-27)

 

 Rising: Mat-Hues, all his shots are 3ptrs. Zero 2pt shot attempts.

Falling: Saddiq Bey

OO finally out of the basement.

Thru 32 games and the end of 2023:

36% and over

Garrison - 43.9% (18-41)

JJ - 40.8% (20-49)

Hunter - 40.4% (46-114)

Trae - 38.5% (107-278) *career BEST

DJ - 38.3% (77-201)

Bogi - 37.9% (100-264)

 

30%-35.9%

Bey - 34.7% (60-173)

AJ - 32.0% (8-25) * back but still not playing

 

29.9% and under

OO - 28.6% (12-42)

Wes - 20.0% (6-30)

 

Concerning: Bogi has had a rough shooting stretch over the last 5 games, 14 of 56 for 25%

Falling and Falling: Saddiq Bey and Wes Matthews.

[JayBirdHawk]

On 1/1/2024 at 11:00 AM, JayBirdHawk said:

Thru 32 games and the end of 2023:

36% and over

Garrison - 43.9% (18-41)

JJ - 40.8% (20-49)

Hunter - 40.4% (46-114)

Trae - 38.5% (107-278) *career BEST

DJ - 38.3% (77-201)

Bogi - 37.9% (100-264)

 

30%-35.9%

Bey - 34.7% (60-173)

AJ - 32.0% (8-25) * back but still not playing

 

29.9% and under

OO - 28.6% (12-42)

Wes - 20.0% (6-30)

 

Concerning: Bogi has had a rough shooting stretch over the last 5 games, 14 of 56 for 25%

Falling and Falling: Saddiq Bey and Wes Matthews.

Thru 35 games and just 3 games into 2024, we have fallen off from 3

36% and over

Garrison - 45.7% (21-46)

Hunter - 40.4% (46-114) *25 games

DJ - 38.4% (81-212)

JJ - 37.7% (23-61)

Bogi - 37.5% (110-293)

Trae - 36.5% (112-307) 

 

30%-35.9%

Bey - 34.0% (61-191)

AJ - 32.1% (9-28) 

 

29.9% and under

OO - 29.5% (13-44)

Wes - 20.0% (6-30)

 

Concerning: Every player except DJ has fallen off from 3 the last few games.

Falling and Falling: Saddiq Bey