The 3-point Conundrum

[TheNorthCydeRises]

On 8/23/2023 at 8:54 PM, JayBirdHawk said:

Called this early at the start of last season - Nate and his antiquated system, smh!

 

 

 

Dead last in 3 pt rate.  26th in FT rate.  19th in eFG%.

It's amazing that this team even finished at .500

And also, look how many games we actually blew, despite these numbers.

[JayBirdHawk]

It's only 3 preseason games, but....

 

JJ - 60% (3-5)

OO - 50% (3-6)

GMat - 50% (6-12)

DJ - 45.4% (5-11)

MoG - 40% (2-5)

Trae - 36.8% (7-19)

Lundy - 36.3% (3-11)

 

Kobe - 16.6% (3-18)

AJ - 12.5% (2-16)

Bogi - 12.5% (1-8)

Patty/Wes - 12.5% (1-8)

Bey - 0% (0-3)

Forest - 0% (0-1)

 

Hunter- DNP

 

[JayBirdHawk]

Thru 5 preseason games:

JJ - 57% (4-7)

Bey - 45% (5-11)

OO - 38% (5-13)

DJ - 35% (6-17)

Trae - 34% (9-26)

 

Bogi - 31% (5-16)

AJ - 26% (6-23)

Hunter - 25% (1-4)

Kobe - 18% (4-22)

Patty/Wes - 11 % (1-9)

[REHawksFan]

6 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Thru 5 preseason games:

JJ - 57% (4-7)

Bey - 45% (5-11)

OO - 38% (5-13)

DJ - 35% (6-17)

Trae - 34% (9-26)

 

Bogi - 31% (5-16)

AJ - 26% (6-23)

Hunter - 25% (1-4)

Kobe - 18% (4-22)

Patty/Wes - 11 % (1-9)

Disappointed in Trae. Yeah, I know it's preseason and he has the ability to shoot closer to 38-39% but I was hoping with Q putting an emphasis on 3pt shooting that he would come back dialed in. After last year it's no given to me that he'll just flip a switch and shoot better. 

Really like JJ and OO shooting well, even on small volume. 

[JayBirdHawk]

1 hour ago, REHawksFan said:

Disappointed in Trae. Yeah, I know it's preseason and he has the ability to shoot closer to 38-39% but I was hoping with Q putting an emphasis on 3pt shooting that he would come back dialed in. After last year it's no given to me that he'll just flip a switch and shoot better. 

Really like JJ and OO shooting well, even on small volume. 

These are his 7 shot attempts from last game. He's not set and squared for most.

https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&ContextMeasure=FG3A&EndPeriod=0&EndRange=28800&GameID=0012300068&PlayerID=1629027&RangeType=0&Season=2023-24&SeasonType=Pre Season&StartPeriod=0&StartRange=0&TeamID=1610612737&flag=3&sct=plot&section=game

[JayBirdHawk]

The good news - after shooting 17.2% from 3 in game 1, the team has shot 37.5% and 40.5% from 3 in these last 2 games. Keep it up fellas.

[JayBirdHawk]

Thru the first 5 games of the regular season:

36% and over

AJ - 50% (5-10)

Bey - 42.1% (8-19)

Hunter - 40.7% (11-27)

Bogi - 36.4% (12-33)

 

30%-35%

DJ - 33.3% (7-21)

JJ - 33.3% (4-12)

 

29% and under

Trae - 25.0% (8-32)

OO - 0.0% (0-3)

 

[JayBirdHawk]

 

 

[hylndr11]

We are also number 1 in the league in FT%

[Jdawgflow]

3 hours ago, hylndr11 said:

We are also number 1 in the league in FT%

@Gray Mule I know you are a proud fan!

[JayBirdHawk]

 

 

[Final_quest]

50 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

 

 

Exactly why Trae is ALWAYS a net positive player.  Even if he shoots below 40%.  Everyone around him feasts on what he creates.  

[JayBirdHawk]

On 11/2/2023 at 12:52 PM, JayBirdHawk said:

Thru the first 5 games of the regular season:

36% and over

AJ - 50% (5-10)

Bey - 42.1% (8-19)

Hunter - 40.7% (11-27)

Bogi - 36.4% (12-33)

 

30%-35%

DJ - 33.3% (7-21)

JJ - 33.3% (4-12)

 

29% and under

Trae - 25.0% (8-32)

OO - 0.0% (0-3)

 

Thru the first 9 games of the regular season:

36% and over

Wes - 100% (2-2)

AJ - 45.5% (5-11)

DJ - 41.8% (23-55)

Bey - 38.5% (15-39)

Bogi - 36.2% (25-69)

 

30%-35%

JJ - 34.6% (9-26)

Hunter - 33.3% (15-45)

 

29% and under

Trae - 29.4% (20-68)

OO - 25.0% (2-8)

 

Biggest rise - DJ: +8.5% (16-34 over the last 4 games )

Biggest fall - Hunter:  -7.4% (4-18 over the last 4 games).

OO finally gets on the board and hits 2 in one game as did Wes who makes his first appearance.

Slight upwards ticks for JJ and Trae, downwards for Bogi, Bey and AJ.

[Wretch]

On 11/4/2023 at 5:17 PM, JayBirdHawk said:

 

 

This is such a telling stat.

[SalvorMallow]

4 hours ago, Wretch said:

This is such a telling stat.

psh this is Trent Forrest level creation...Am I right @benhillboy?

[theheroatl]

On 11/4/2023 at 5:17 PM, JayBirdHawk said:

 

 

This means one thing and one thing only.

 

Trae should always pass the ball

[Spud2nique]

3 hours ago, theheroatl said:

This means one thing and one thing only.

 

Trae should always pass the ball

He might be the best passer/scorer under 6’2 the league has ever seen. He’s so good in both it’s crazy. 

[benhillboy]

8 hours ago, SalvorMallow said:

psh this is Trent Forrest level creation...Am I right @benhillboy?

DJ and Bogi are shooting higher than that overall on threes and it’s only .015% higher for Sadiq.  AJ doesn’t play.  What’s your point?  A creative coach finds minutes for a combo guard with Trent’s size (that he severely lacks in his starting duo) and career 2.26:1 assist to turnover ratio.  

Historically having one player assume the lion’s share of team assists isn’t a proven, prudent philosophy unless you’re Magic or Jokic.  I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you know Trae isn’t comparable to either.

Edited November 13, 2023 by benhillboy

[benhillboy]

@SalvorMallow Between Isiah winning his last championship 33 years ago and Jokic winning his first, the highest career assist per game average for a Finals MVP is 7 by LeBron.  Again, a player I would hope you wouldn’t dream of comparing Trae to.

[AHF]

9 hours ago, benhillboy said:

@SalvorMallow Between Isiah winning his last championship 33 years ago and Jokic winning his first, the highest career assist per game average for a Finals MVP is 7 by LeBron.  Again, a player I would hope you wouldn’t dream of comparing Trae to.

Most finals MVPs are the top scorers for their team and most top scorers are not top assist guys.  Makes sense.