2023-24 Insider Information Thread

[Spud2nique]

1 hour ago, theheroatl said:

 

You have no idea how drastically better we would be adding 

Herb Jones
Jarrett Allen

and possibly getting a Marcus Smart or Alex Caruso

That would be REAL INTELLIGENT GM'ing around Trae and JJ

We get Herb Jones, Jarrett Allen and Smart I’m doing backflips.

Edited May 8 by Spud2nique

[JayBirdHawk]

53 minutes ago, KB21 said:

Let’s trade for a mid range maven instead of getting a true floor spacer.   

 

 

[kg01]

13 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

We get Herb Jones, Jarrett Allen and Smart I’m doing backflips.

I do believe CLE will move on from their double-big thing with Allen being odd man out.  

Aye, would we want BroLopez?  Is he done-zo or still got some juice? 

Eta.  And, if you think he's done, out it on a scale for me.  Where is he from 1 to Kl0y Th0mps0n? 

Edited May 8 by kg01

[REHawksFan]

8 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

 

 

So he's just talking about teams with small guards in general. Not about the Hawks. Got it.

By the way, how big is Trae again? 

[Wretch]

1 hour ago, REHawksFan said:

The real argument against him is one based on his value vs his salary expectations. THAT'S the reason we shouldn't trade for him. Not some bogus narrative that he'll refuse to take 3s. 

This is the only thing giving me any sort of pause.  It's natural to compare two wing players that excel in the midrange - especially both being long/tall for their position.  But they play two different games - scorer/facilitator vs. pure scorer.  It's a different fit.

Ultimately though, I doubt we would make any moves without the input of our coaching staff.  If they sign off on it, then that is good enough for me.

21 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

We get Herb Jones, Jarrett Allen and Smart I’m doing backflips.

I'm also a Jarrett Allen fan.

[JayBirdHawk]

6 minutes ago, REHawksFan said:

So he's just talking about teams with small guards in general. Not about the Hawks. Got it.

By the way, how big is Trae again? 

Trae 6'-1"

CP3 6'-0"

Brunson 6'-2"

Conley 6'-0"

They all have weight advantages overTraee though.

[REHawksFan]

2 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Trae 6'-1"

CP3 6'-0"

Brunson 6'-2"

Conley 6'-0"

They all have weight advantages overTraee though.

I guess I should have used the sarcasm font.    

[Spud2nique]

16 minutes ago, kg01 said:

Where is he from 1 to Kl0y Th0mps0n? 

u ain’t done and I’m just enjoying the show is all.  Proceed..

16 minutes ago, REHawksFan said:

By the way, how big is Trae again? 

Biggern u.. 

[JayBirdHawk]

13 minutes ago, kg01 said:

I do believe CLE will move on from their double-big thing with Allen being odd man out.  

Aye, would we want BroLopez?  Is he done-zo or still got some juice? 

Eta.  And, if you think he's done, out it on a scale for me.  Where is he from 1 to Kl0y Th0mps0n? 

Agreed on the Cavs big. Still waiting for Mobley to be the next Chris Bosh on offense.

BroLo played 30 mpg this year at shot 36.6% from 3. I think he still has 'something' left and he's durable - 79 games played. $23 mil. price tag, sim to CC.

[Spud2nique]

3 minutes ago, REHawksFan said:

I guess I should have used the sarcasm font.    

Or a good ol’ fashion spankin.. 

[JayBirdHawk]

3 minutes ago, REHawksFan said:

I guess I should have used the sarcasm font.    

 

You got me 

[Spud2nique]

18 minutes ago, kg01 said:

BroLopez? 

Yes enough juice Trae would send him to the all star game as a center for the eastern conference, just have your hands ready big man.

 

10 minutes ago, Wretch said:

I'm also a Jarrett Allen fan.

Yes.. see above  

[Spud2nique]

2 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

 

You got me 

Hey, I said he should be spanked first! Great minds! JINX buy me a coke!  

2 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

Or a good ol’ fashion spankin.. 

@JayBirdHawk more than ON CUE!!  

[capstone21]

17 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Trae 6'-1"

CP3 6'-0"

Brunson 6'-2"

Conley 6'-0"

They all have weight advantages overTraee though.

They also all play D except Trae

[JayBirdHawk]

1 minute ago, capstone21 said:

They also all play D except Trae

Brunson doesn't either

[KB21]

42 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Brunson doesn't either

Yep.  I don’t know where this idea that Brunson is this elite defensive player has come from.  Trae was also much better defensively this year.  

[Spud2nique]

11 hours ago, Spud2nique said:

Shut all your sources down right now and focus on fending on fake a$$ Wolves fans.. Soth these fools tryin to bump me outta shotgun!!! F all that.. {poking sticks at them}.. UHHHHH AWAYYYY AWAYYY YOU SAVAGES.. ain’t no more room up in here for y’all…

KG tried to bump me out too! Not @kg01but the x !!!! Area21 is ATL area foo!!!! Garnett get out!!!!

Yep  

And dem DAT CALI BOI 

[marco102]

8 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Cavs have pick #20, not #21. 

I don't think the Pels are giving up enough to get Murray AND 10 AND Allen.  Hawks should still be getting a future pick from NOP. 

Questions:

1. Is it worth moving down 10 spots to get Herb? What is Herb's value as a stand alone picknin this draft?

2. Who do we draft at #20 - Ware?

 

Won't be there at 20, but will continue the Hawk's trend of quality picks and at 19 and 20.

[Plainview1981]

On 5/6/2024 at 12:43 PM, JeffS17 said:

Which is why our front office declined those offers.  Yet people here still criticize them for not making enough moves, when these are the types of moves that have been available to us.  I think most of this board is still in somewhat of a denial of how little we could have done the past two years due to Schlenks overpays. Those extension overpays that had long-term ramifications and we're still unwinding them.  We're going to be in such a better place when Clint is off the books, and we get deeper into Hunters extension (his pay relative to the total cap gets smaller every year), particularly knowing that Landry has not made these same mistakes and has been signing reasonable deals.

Schlenk was such a failure. Poor spending and poor drafting are big reasons why the Hawks have little flexibility now. He had alot to do with that.

And the folks calling OO a rising star... He hasn't shown that he is anything more than a decent player up to this point. JJ showed more improvement in one year than OO has has the last 3 years.

[kg01]

7 hours ago, KB21 said:

Yep.  I don’t know where this idea that Brunson is this elite defensive player has come from.  Trae was also much better defensively this year.  

It's a combination of familiarity breeding discontent and BSPN-ization.

A. Hawks fans see how bad our team defense is and have decided to pin it on one guy.  This is fueled by B.

B. People hear  the eggsperts on BSPN and other places tell them how bad a guy is or how great(sic) another guy is, and they just blindly believe.  This is the BSPN-ization of fans.  Folks choose to replace their own thinking with what BSPN and other sports media tell them.

So NYK has great team defense around Brunson and ... well, hes out there too, so he must be grest on defense as well right?  No, he's actually not.  He has the same issues Trae does on D.  He just has a team geared to hide his deficiencies.  We dont.  It’s that simple.