Afro Posted May 14 Report Share Posted May 14 (edited) Joke was already made. Womp womp. Edited May 14 by Afro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountainjim Posted May 14 Report Share Posted May 14 not much left for a next step - a couple of trades, then no picks forever. Maybe one good playoff year but nothing sustainable without picks going forward. Or so it seems to me. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Final_quest Posted May 14 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 14 55 minutes ago, REHawksFan said: And we're supposed to be giving up JJ plus salary to match plus the 1st pick this year plus 2 additional 1st in the future that we don't really have any available? And we're doing this and only getting back 1 superstar player? And that's supposed to make us a contender? Do I have that all correct? SMH I actually think we'll still have enough assets to contend. Again this is assuming Giannis is the guy. Potential starters: Trae, Bogi, Hunter, Giannis, OO. We still have Bufkin, AJ, Mo Gueye, and Bey (who could be back by end of season). Additionally we can add other pieces from trading Murray, Collins TPE, and the MLE. Plus with Giannis you would have vet min ring chasers filling gaps on the roster like backup PG and backup C. We have up to three first round picks we can trade plus the #1 this year. Sacramento, 2029, and 2031. So at least one pick left over after the deal. But let's say you keep this team together for title runs the next three years. By the time the 2028 draft rolls around we'd have most of our draft capital moving forward, only down one pick. Then you can trade all your player assets for rebuilding pieces and draft picks if it didn't work. This is a three year trial. Why not give this a shot? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted May 14 Report Share Posted May 14 1 hour ago, AHF said: Who could forget the Greek Process? Socrates or Plato? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NekiEcko Posted May 14 Report Share Posted May 14 33 minutes ago, Afro said: I stopped on page 296 so Ive got some more pages to go.... But IF its Giannis....you just do that. What do we hope JJ becomes? How far off of that is Giannis, who already is that. What do we hope Sarr becomes? Same thing. The extra firsts suck, but to me, its kind of a no brainer. Giannis is what we hope these players/assets become. Tell the Bucks thank you and go to the next step lol. I am sorry, I just cannot get behind this deal. We have seen what happened to Brooklyn and Phoenix when they put all of their eggs in the basket. Think about it, the reason why the C's is in the top of the league is because the draft capital they got from Brooklyn and same with Houston now. It is fun to pair them together but what is the cost, you are one Trae or Giannis injury from being in the lottery but with no control of those picks. I rather trade Trae, feel out any good offers for Murray and the rest of the Hawks. There is nothing wrong with going with OKC route. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted May 14 Report Share Posted May 14 37 minutes ago, mountainjim said: not much left for a next step - a couple of trades, then no picks forever. Maybe one good playoff year but nothing sustainable without picks going forward. Or so it seems to me. Which is why Landry likely will not do it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afro Posted May 14 Report Share Posted May 14 (edited) 11 minutes ago, NekiEcko said: I am sorry, I just cannot get behind this deal. We have seen what happened to Brooklyn and Phoenix when they put all of their eggs in the basket. Think about it, the reason why the C's is in the top of the league is because the draft capital they got from Brooklyn and same with Houston now. It is fun to pair them together but what is the cost, you are one Trae or Giannis injury from being in the lottery but with no control of those picks. I rather trade Trae, feel out any good offers for Murray and the rest of the Hawks. There is nothing wrong with going with OKC route. The Suns put ALLL of their eggs in the basket and had nothing else. The Hawks wouldnt be completely devoid of talent outside of three guys. The Nets picked three terrible fits. Of course putting 3 giant divas together ended in disaster(with a complete rookie as HC too lol). This has happened more than just these two times. I dont know why we have to solely focus on those two examples, when there are several more. As far as the pick/OKC route. I'm sorry, I'm just not going to agree with you there. The OKC route has largely already sailed too. To be OKC we would have started doing this WITH a rookie Trae. This team hasn't shown any ability to completely build through the draft, really ever? I don't understand why people are so gung-hoe to completely reset and do it all over....again. In almost every era of the Hawks in my lifetime we've said "well once we can get a real star/another star.....". That moment is here and now we want to do something different? Edited May 14 by Afro 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NekiEcko Posted May 14 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 14 4 minutes ago, KB21 said: Which is why Landry likely will not do it. I agree with the sentiment from another site. Overthinking this situation isn't necessary; if Trae is unhappy, then the front office should respect his wishes and consider trading him. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted May 14 Premium Member Report Share Posted May 14 I hate when work gets in the way Squawking...finally caught up. Strangely enough, I have no comment except....just don't screw it up Hawks....whatever the 'it' is. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Popular Post JayBirdHawk Posted May 14 Premium Member Popular Post Report Share Posted May 14 On 5/10/2024 at 5:08 PM, NBASupes said: There is one bit of news I've gotten, Atlanta is looking to stock up for future 1sts. They are very open to moves even including sending JJ home for the right super superstar. There is one player Atlanta is coveting and I am hearing he's not against Atlanta.... On 5/10/2024 at 5:14 PM, JayBirdHawk said: Giannis? On 5/10/2024 at 5:16 PM, NBASupes said: ??? On 5/10/2024 at 5:18 PM, JayBirdHawk said: JJ's hometown is Wisconsin, ergo 'sending him home' @NBASupes post pre-lottery regarding trading JJ. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Jdawgflow Posted May 14 Premium Member Report Share Posted May 14 1 hour ago, Wretch said: Yeah......I'm probably gonna check out. I don't believe all the rumors, but something about all this doesn't sit right with me. I've spent way too much time on the Squawk these last couple of days anyway. @Sothron, if I'm not lurking here... I'll hit you up on FB for updates you're allowed to share. Don’t leave Wretch! there are still corn dogs here for you. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted May 14 Author Moderators Report Share Posted May 14 1 hour ago, bleachkit said: Socrates or Plato? Akis Petretzikis. Delicious. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShooterSays Posted May 14 Report Share Posted May 14 IF Giannis were to become available, gotta think OKC and the Spurs would be first in line to make that trade. Unless Milwaukee is just in love with Sarr, they’ll outbid us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bird_dirt Posted May 14 Report Share Posted May 14 4 minutes ago, ShooterSays said: IF Giannis were to become available, gotta think OKC and the Spurs would be first in line to make that trade. Unless Milwaukee is just in love with Sarr, they’ll outbid us. That’s what I’m thinking. We could put a decent package together with Sarr, JJ, plus whatever else we could throw in, but there will be other teams that could offer more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg01 Posted May 15 Report Share Posted May 15 1 hour ago, Jdawgflow said: Don’t leave Wretch! there are still corn dogs here for you. Yeah, if @Wretch leaves I'm going with him. Psst, if he's gone he won't know if you keep postin'.. Shut up Baze, that's why I got my fingers crossed behind my back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted May 15 Report Share Posted May 15 40 minutes ago, bird_dirt said: That’s what I’m thinking. We could put a decent package together with Sarr, JJ, plus whatever else we could throw in, but there will be other teams that could offer more. The issue is the picks we can legitimately offer are years away. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Popular Post JeffS17 Posted May 15 Premium Member Popular Post Report Share Posted May 15 If we decide to go all in on Giannis, I will be at State Farm and excited, although that deal will make me nervous about the future. If we go all in for Joel Embiid, I will never forgive Landry. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted May 15 Premium Member Report Share Posted May 15 1 minute ago, JeffS17 said: If we decide to go all in on Giannis, I will be at State Farm and excited, although that deal will make me nervous about the future. I get it, but we're always looking to the future for our youngs guys to take the next step. Since we drafted Trae, not one of our other lottery picks have come out the box ready to make some noise from day 1 like he did. Giannis has a 3+1 deal and will be 32 - that would be our window. Trae wouldn't even be 30 yet. [And I'm not saying we should, but I would get it if we did...I just think it'sa pipe dream though]. But again...it can't be just trade for Giannis and do nothing else with the roster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted May 15 Premium Member Report Share Posted May 15 A first time for the Hawks - I don't see it happening. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macknsweetjones Posted May 15 Report Share Posted May 15 Hawks not trading their first number 1 ..it’s their first 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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