Hawks looking to trade

[JeffS17]

Just now, theheroatl said:

Jeff - Generally I have agreed with you on a lot of topics but shunning DJ away because of minor personality traits is not it.

1 hour ago, JeffS17 said:

I'm not saying DJ is some huge character misfit that needs to be dealt because of that.

Again, I'm not saying we should trade him because of his issues -- I'm just saying they are actually real and there, even if they're surfacing now only because he's in trade talks. 

As far as dealing him, I still think we should try to get an upgrade in the front court (preferably Clint replacement) or a SG that is a high level defender.  Someone like Caruso and a pick would make me happy -- or obviously for someone like Towns in the offseason.

 

[Diesel]

17 minutes ago, JeffS17 said:

Again, I'm not saying we should trade him because of his issues -- I'm just saying they are actually real and there, even if they're surfacing now only because he's in trade talks. 

As far as dealing him, I still think we should try to get an upgrade in the front court (preferably Clint replacement) or a SG that is a high level defender.  Someone like Caruso and a pick would make me happy -- or obviously for someone like Towns in the offseason.

 

Where are these twitter wars that you speak of??

[Hawkish]

Basis for a trade?

[JeffS17]

10 minutes ago, Hawkish said:

Basis for a trade?

Great for us but I don't see why the Pels would do this.  CC is a pretty bad fit with Zion and Herb is on arguably the best contract in the NBA in a role that is coveted by every team.  

[h4wkfan]

So Draymond has the right kind of edge and is therefore not a problem. 
 

Dillon Brooks is a dog and is someone you want around your locker room. 
 

Bridges is a desired trade target with no locker room concerns. 
 

Portis breaks teammate jaw but he is great. 
 

Morant does what morant does but boy does Memphis like  him.

[Hawkish]

13 minutes ago, JeffS17 said:

Great for us but I don't see why the Pels would do this.  CC is a pretty bad fit with Zion and Herb is on arguably the best contract in the NBA in a role that is coveted by every team.  

I agree.  It was just referencing an apparent old rumor.  Just having fun

[kg01]

20 minutes ago, AHF said:

DJM has some maturity issues.  I think the bigger point is they are being blown out in reports now to try to drive his price down.  You could do this with almost any player.  The ones who haven't had any issues or moments of poor judgment are greatly outnumbered by the rest of the league.  I don't think the maturity issues for DJM are really egregious or warrant a lot of analysis here (frankly they've been discussed fairly on the board when they've arisen).  When teams try to drive down a player's value they highlight stuff like this and pretend it is a huge deal.  Doesn't mean we should deny reality but we should take it in stride given the purpose for which it is being released into the media.  

I hear you, AH.  I just replaced "kg" everywhere you said "DJM".  Happy valentine's to you too, bro. 

[bleachkit]

Player's on court abilities, age and contract are what sets their value. Personality is a secondary consideration unless it's truly egregious.

[kg01]

33 minutes ago, Hawkish said:

Basis for a trade?

No.

We need to remember, NOP is having a good season.  They don't need to make a trade until the offseason, money-wise (if at all).  We need trades now, so we're the desperate party. 

[Hawkish]

10 minutes ago, kg01 said:

No.

We need to remember, NOP is having a good season.  They don't need to make a trade until the offseason, money-wise (if at all).  We need trades now, so we're the desperate party. 

Fair point 

[terrell]

3 hours ago, Hawkish said:

Wait a second… You mean the Hawks wouldn’t rather take on someone’s trash in order to improve the opposing team’s chance of success? No way… I don’t believe it.  They must think the Hawks are a 2 on the Enneagram.  

Well Landry Fields is a Klutch client too

So Murray to Lakers confirmed.. lol

[RedDawg#8]

The only reason anyone on this board ever got behind trading DJ was because we were told he had “real value and interest” from other teams and we thought that meant we were going to get a really good player in return. The moment we started getting lowball offers is when I stopped caring about trading him.

Fit doesn’t matter as we have no issue putting up points with him and Trae. We never have. That’s just a narrative to support another narrative.

Defensively, sure. We let DJ guard Steph, a smaller PG than him, and he still got cooked. So it’s not about the defensive mismatches. That another lazy take.

The truth is, when you lose as much as we were losing, everyone is quick to want to try something different. But the moment teams started driving down DJ’s trade value, that narrative shifted and our FO seemingly has wisened up to look elsewhere for roster moves.

The character stuff is nothing but noise.

We are better off keeping DJ. I don’t see many ways to improve this roster via trade at the deadline. It is what it is.

 

 

[terrell]

20 hours ago, kg01 said:

True.  Sadly capela injury is a killer. 

Edited February 5 by terrell

[terrell]

3 hours ago, Spud2nique said:

We never drafted him for us, if he’s not flipped it’s a horrible pick by management. I mean, just a pick out of left field. The kid can play but he’s another scoring 1. I don’t know, I’m prolly saying this cuz I had 8 prospects for the Hawks and he wasn’t one of them. 
 

He was supposed to be a Raptor, stupid Masai and his bs.

I dont believe this..

LF was happier than a chubby kid in a candy shop after the Bufkin selection...

[macdaddy]

1 hour ago, Hawkish said:

Basis for a trade?

This would be awesome.  Yeah nola probably wouldn't but they are unhappy with Val and they need DJ honestly.   Clint would have worked for them too but now that he's hurt i doubt it.  

[Jody23]

It's probably worth it to see what opportunities open up in the offseason when the Hawks will have Capela's expiring contract and picks as assets along with DJ.

[Spud2nique]

2 hours ago, bleachkit said:

Player's on court abilities, age and contract are what sets their value. Personality is a secondary consideration unless it's truly egregious.

You just said yesterday there could be something. Make up your melon folks don’t forget.  

[NBASupes]

2 hours ago, RedDawg#8 said:

The only reason anyone on this board ever got behind trading DJ was because we were told he had “real value and interest” from other teams and we thought that meant we were going to get a really good player in return. The moment we started getting lowball offers is when I stopped caring about trading him.

Fit doesn’t matter as we have no issue putting up points with him and Trae. We never have. That’s just a narrative to support another narrative.

Defensively, sure. We let DJ guard Steph, a smaller PG than him, and he still got cooked. So it’s not about the defensive mismatches. That another lazy take.

The truth is, when you lose as much as we were losing, everyone is quick to want to try something different. But the moment teams started driving down DJ’s trade value, that narrative shifted and our FO seemingly has wisened up to look elsewhere for roster moves.

The character stuff is nothing but noise.

We are better off keeping DJ. I don’t see many ways to improve this roster via trade at the deadline. It is what it is.

 

 

There is a difference between being awful or gettin cooked. Steph was making extremely difficult shots. Shit happens. He's one of the atg at scoring

Edited February 5 by NBASupes

[bleachkit]

29 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

You just said yesterday there could be something. Make up your melon folks don’t forget.  

I said the character concerns may have some legitimately. I never said that would determine his trade value though.

[NBASupes]

Murray been our best teammate within the locker room. Anyone who has issues with him ain't on the coaching staff or in the locker room and they aren't Landry