phoostal Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Hot off the press the Hawks have offered their GM job to Danny Ferry according to AW of yahoo sports. Link belowhttp://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--atlanta-hawks-offer-danny-ferry-gm-job.html;_ylt=Al6Cx0hxdgLrAwF.MJH4x3E5nYcBWonder how this will effect the draft and possible trades if we hammer out a contract with him.P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Who knows what he'll be able to do here but at least he wont feel tied to this core. Maybe he brings Duncan to the ATL for the MLE! LOL OK I can dream... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 I can't understand why he would accept the lame duck position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 This dude better be smart. I swear I will drop this team like a hammer if I see one more year without a playmaking PG on the team. Just thinking about it pisses me off.I am all for him being GM after the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoostal Posted June 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 According to the conditions for Ferry is that he has all the power over every aspect of the organization. If this is truly the case can we expect the core to be traded? Can we expect a new coach, even though we extended Drew for another year? Can we expect salary constraints? Only time will tell I guess.P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 According to the conditions for Ferry is that he has all the power over every aspect of the organization. If this is truly the case can we expect the core to be traded? Can we expect a new coach, even though we extended Drew for another year? Can we expect salary constraints? Only time will tell I guess.PDrew techinically didn't get extended. He had the option year on his contract picked up, but he has not signed an extension. This was all a part of his original deal. There is a chance that Danny Ferry could come in and make a change, but I think it is more likely that he waits a year and gives Larry a chance to show him what he can do.What excites me about this is that Danny comes from an organization that embraces advanced analytics and utilizes it as a tool in their player evaluation. This makes me think there is a possibility that Danny will come in and bring in an advanced analytics department to work alongside the traditional scouting department and help aid in player decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryandauwalker Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 This dude better be smart. I swear I will drop this team like a hammer if I see one more year without a playmaking PG on the team. Just thinking about it pisses me off.I am all for him being GM after the draft.Not everybody shares your position on whether a playmaking PG is the foremost need of the franchise. This is not as black/white of an issue as you make it seem. It might be stage 2 of 3 or 2 of 5, but assuming that it has to be the first thing that needs to happen is a bit silly.All one can truly ask is a willingness to honestly assess the needs of the team and address them aggressively without kicking the can and letting another GM/owner deal with it. Apart from a few decisions, that is traditionally how the Hawks have been run. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 As long as he is not just another mouthpiece for the owners and can actually make tough decisions where it involves 'WLOC' I'm good with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachx Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 I can't understand why he would accept the lame duck position.I really think the playing field has been leveled more with the greatly increased luxury tax thresholds. There will not be many teams going over the cap anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GameTime Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Looks like ASG will be giving him the keys. Say goodbye to Larry Drew and maybe even WLOCWill he be drafting this Thursday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzard Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 I like it and hope we can get him. He took some grief in Cleveland but then was hired by the Spurs. I think a lot more highly of the Spurs organizations assessment of his knowledge and abilities than some disgruntled Cavs fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Not everybody shares your position on whether a playmaking PG is the foremost need of the franchise. This is not as black/white of an issue as you make it seem. It might be stage 2 of 3 or 2 of 5, but assuming that it has to be the first thing that needs to happen is a bit silly.All one can truly ask is a willingness to honestly assess the needs of the team and address them aggressively without kicking the can and letting another GM/owner deal with it. Apart from a few decisions, that is traditionally how the Hawks have been run.Honestly this is the most black and white issue. Look at the personnel groupings. I could care less about talent. You guys are the ones who care about that. I care about our one player who could be our cornerstone player. Our franchise player by name and salary in Joe and our role players. If only one player can create his own shot who struggles with double teams, the other is an elite PnR PF, Josh is Josh, and the other is movement specialist then why is your PG a homeless man's Westbrook.I have no quarrels with Teague's talent, he is not a starting NBA PG and will never be truly successful at it since he has no PG skills and he's not the uber unstoppable talent that Westbrook is. He is a talented player who like Jamal is best coming off the bench but Jamal didn't find that out till later. For Jeff, the sooner, the better for his career. The gap for this personnel grouping for the need of a playmaking PG is epic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Wretch Posted June 24, 2012 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 It is promising that he's coming from San Antonio, but I'm not a fan of his Cavs work. Not at all. What this guy did led to "The Decision." And nobody is concerned about that?Moreover, looking at his body of work there, I don't think see a guy that would come in here and make wholesale changes (which is what I want). Seems like he would try to make the best of the situation (just like the "meh" moves he made in Cleveland) and he would do so within the limits of what our ownership will allow.Doesn't necessarily mean gloom and doom, but I'm not jumping for joy here...What are the highlights of his tenure in Cleveland? Larry Hughes...? Antawn Jamison...? Mo Williams...? Shaq...? And you have one of the best, if not THE best players in the league? Anybody with a basketball mind will look at this team and see the potential. I think he will look at this team and see the potential and a) not make the big changes that are necessary and b) well...we see the help that LeBron got.Not to be a Negative Nancy.....but I'm going to do some serious waitin' and seein' on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WraithSentinel Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 If he is given power to do as he please then I hope we do bring him in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Ferry is extremely smart and knows the game well. Outside of the Larry Hughes deal which was bad, I felt he always made the winning move. I hope he knows Joe is a Robin unless Sund and that Horford is a PnR and movement specialist who can't create his own shot much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 (edited) Drew techinically didn't get extended. He had the option year on his contract picked up, but he has not signed an extension. This was all a part of his original deal. There is a chance that Danny Ferry could come in and make a change, but I think it is more likely that he waits a year and gives Larry a chance to show him what he can do.What excites me about this is that Danny comes from an organization that embraces advanced analytics and utilizes it as a tool in their player evaluation. This makes me think there is a possibility that Danny will come in and bring in an advanced analytics department to work alongside the traditional scouting department and help aid in player decisions.After watching the playoffs, I'm convinced that Scott Brooks isn't a whole lot better than Drew. Maybe sum, but I think Drew could do as much with The Thunder as Brooks has done. The Thunder are a lot like the Hawks with the exception that Durant/Westbrook/Harden is better than Joe/Josh and Al.Which goes against the theory that the best coached team always wins. Brooks isn't in Pop's league, yet the Thunder took them out. Edited June 24, 2012 by Hotlanta1981 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frosgrim Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 If, and this is a huge IF, he does have the keys to the franchise, then I'm willing to give him a chance. However, I have my serious doubts as to how much freedom he will actually have.Another option is that Ferry was not hired directly by the ASG and this is the first hire of a new buyer(s). OK, this is completely wishful thinking, but if Ferry really does have control, it is a 180 degree switch in approach by the ASG.In any case, I hope Ferry is able to build a scouting staff that is all-but non-existant right now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaceCase Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 This is our counter to the Magic getting Hennigan. Acquire former San Antonio front office types at all costs!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Drew was looking really good with Bibby and Horford running the PnR on offense and Bibby was a crypt by the point of his career. Defense that year was terrible with should be retired that year Bibby and Jamal. I thought Drew was solid to average most of the time but who knows. Woody improved greatly from his 2nd to 3rd year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoostal Posted June 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 The one thing I will say for Ferry was that he tried to improve the Cavs roster. Lot of people blame him for surrounding LeBron with junk, I don't. Some think you can trade your junk players and get all stars but it doesn't work that way. He had bad players around Lebron which wasn't entirely of his doing but Paxson who was there before him. He had to take risks and bad contracts to try to improve the roster. It didn't pay off in the end but he tried to shake up that roster to make it happen. Nobody is going to take your junk and give you all star players in return. Some have a hard time believing that. I want to know who was he suppose to trade for and what garbage players on the Cavs were going to get that person?P 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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