Official Game Thread: Hawks at Cavaliers GAME 2

[Thomas]

Thinking that Humphries is the only guy we have that would really mix it up with someone. Maybe Thabo if someone gets after him.

[Hawkmoor]

Just think. The Cavaliers hit the most 3 pointers ever in a NBA game.................lmao

 

[Hawkmoor]

1 hour ago, mtnbayou said:

Maybe the Cavs can at least use the leftover hides of Hawks players as doormats or something.  

Don't want it all to go to waste.

[Guest]

The Hawks got punked. No doubt about it. My only question is how do you defend a JRSmith 30 footer fadeaway off one foot? The guy didn't look at the basket one time. Lol. 

[AUhawksfan]

47 minutes ago, Peoriabird said:

JR Smith was second on the team in scoring in 28 minutes

@JayBirdHawk your attempt at logic is going to be futile.  Do you know how many of JR's 7 3-pointers were when Kyle was guarding him? Three, I went back and checked.

Does Kyle get his share of the blame?  Sure, but so do all of the starters.

[hylndr11]

where did this best defense go - this is way more frustrating than anything braves or falcons have done, WAAAAY moroe and theres nothing you can even do about it, is what I keep hearing 

[Hawkmoor]

Hawks grand entrance to playoffs:

 

 

 

And the grand exit:

 

 

 

[Guest]

@Hawkmoor you are enjoying this a little too much.  You're practically giddy.  Is that a Calfs jersey I see under your Hawks shirsey? 

[Peoriabird]

2015-2016 Atlanta Hawks Playoff Leaders

Player Efficiency Rating

Kris Humphries38.1

Paul Millsap18.8

Al Horford17.1

Mike Scott15.8

Jeff Teague15.3

Offensive Rating

Kris Humphries134.0

Mike Scott122.8

Kyle Korver119.1

Mike Muscala113.3

Al Horford103.7

Defensive Rating

Al Horford97.4

Paul Millsap97.8

Thabo Sefolosha98.4

Lamar Patterson98.8

Kent Bazemore100.9

Effective Field Goal %

Mike Scott.718

Kyle Korver.625

Kris Humphries.571

Mike Muscala.550

Dennis Schröder.488

Total Rebound %

Kris Humphries29.2

Paul Millsap14.3

Mike Muscala13.6

Lamar Patterson13.3

Al Horford12.3

Assist %

Jeff Teague37.0

Dennis Schröder32.1

Lamar Patterson24.4

Kris Humphries18.2

Kirk Hinrich16.5

 

2015-2016 Atlanta Hawks Playoff Stats - Advanced Stats

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#	Player	Team	TS%	eFG%	Total S %	ORB%	DRB%	TRB%	AST%	TOV%	STL%	BLK%	USG%	PPR	PPS	ORtg	DRtg	eDiff	FIC	PER
1	Kris Humphries	ATL	.635	.571	216.7	23.3	34.8	29.2	18.2	6.0	2.1	-	31.1	1.4	1.4	134.0	102.1	31.9	19.0	38.1
2	Paul Millsap	ATL	.518	.463	141.3	9.0	19.2	14.3	12.4	13.1	1.8	6.5	22.7	-2.0	1.2	102.9	97.8	5.1	117.8	18.8
3	Al Horford	ATL	.505	.460	175.1	5.6	18.5	12.3	15.1	11.3	1.9	6.8	18.3	1.3	1.1	103.7	97.4	6.3	103.0	17.1
4	Mike Scott	ATL	.741	.718	199.0	3.6	17.2	10.7	5.7	15.8	1.0	1.7	14.6	-3.0	1.6	122.8	103.4	19.5	49.2	15.8
5	Jeff Teague	ATL	.500	.400	143.8	1.5	6.0	3.8	37.0	14.8	1.1	0.8	28.6	4.4	1.2	101.6	107.6	-6.0	60.2	15.3
6	Mike Muscala	ATL	.575	.550	183.3	11.8	15.3	13.6	7.8	12.6	-	1.3	16.0	-1.5	1.2	113.3	106.6	6.8	20.8	14.2
7	Kent Bazemore	ATL	.462	.433	131.6	3.0	18.9	11.4	10.7	6.6	1.8	2.1	21.1	1.0	1.0	96.0	100.9	-4.9	79.2	13.3
8	Dennis Schröder	ATL	.513	.488	156.1	3.6	5.9	4.8	32.1	16.5	0.6	-	29.6	-0.2	1.1	95.8	109.2	-13.4	34.9	13.1
9	Kyle Korver	ATL	.653	.625	190.9	0.9	15.2	8.4	6.2	9.9	1.7	1.0	12.1	-0.1	1.4	119.1	102.9	16.2	71.2	12.6
10	Thabo Sefolosha	ATL	.504	.466	124.3	3.1	19.3	11.6	13.1	18.7	2.5	3.1	13.4	-	1.2	96.1	98.4	-2.2	42.6	11.6
11	Kirk Hinrich	ATL	.357	.357	61.9	-	14.6	7.9	16.5	-	-	-	11.5	7.2	0.7	91.4	105.6	-14.2	4.8	6.3
12	Lamar Patterson	ATL	.403	.357	161.9	-	25.1	13.3	24.4	35.0	2.6	-	25.6	-10.2	0.9	64.2	98.8	-34.6	3.6	5.0
13	Tim Hardaway Jr.	ATL	.324	.308	91.2	-	10.8	5.7	12.8	9.8	-	1.0	16.2	2.0	0.7	71.5	108.5	-37.0	7.8	3.1

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Peoriabird]

Versus Cleveland

2015-2016 Playoff Conference Semi Finals Leaders

Player Efficiency Rating

Kris Humphries44.7

Mike Muscala25.6

Paul Millsap22.9

Dennis Schröder19.7

Thabo Sefolosha19.4

Offensive Rating

Mike Muscala193.6

Mike Scott180.9

Thabo Sefolosha148.6

Kris Humphries142.4

Kyle Korver120.9

Defensive Rating

Lamar Patterson116.8

Paul Millsap117.4

Kris Humphries118.4

Al Horford121.2

Kent Bazemore126.0

Effective Field Goal %

Mike Scott1.167

Mike Muscala1.000

Thabo Sefolosha.857

Lamar Patterson.750

Dennis Schröder.600

Total Rebound %

Kris Humphries34.7

Paul Millsap19.7

Kent Bazemore11.3

Mike Scott11.0

Kirk Hinrich9.6

Assist %

Dennis Schröder51.4

Jeff Teague40.8

Thabo Sefolosha21.4

Lamar Patterson20.4

Kris Humphries18.6

 

2015-2016 Playoff Conference Semi Finals Stats - Advanced Stats

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#	Player	Team	TS%	eFG%	Total S %	ORB%	DRB%	TRB%	AST%	TOV%	STL%	BLK%	USG%	PPR	PPS	ORtg	DRtg	eDiff	FIC	PER
1	Kris Humphries	ATL	.615	.500	150.0	24.6	43.6	34.7	18.6	-	3.4	-	31.2	4.7	1.5	142.4	118.4	24.0	13.5	44.7
2	Mike Muscala	ATL	1.000	1.000	180.0	10.9	5.5	8.2	-	-	-	-	11.5	-	2.0	193.6	133.6	60.0	8.5	25.6
3	Paul Millsap	ATL	.485	.389	132.0	17.9	21.4	19.7	11.8	12.8	2.4	7.6	26.8	-3.7	1.2	105.3	117.4	-12.1	31.5	22.9
4	Dennis Schröder	ATL	.618	.600	194.2	5.2	5.3	5.2	51.4	21.3	-	-	36.1	-4.2	1.3	105.0	133.1	-28.1	13.0	19.7
5	Thabo Sefolosha	ATL	.857	.857	138.1	-	11.4	5.7	21.4	12.5	-	-	12.7	3.7	1.7	148.6	131.6	17.0	10.0	19.4
6	Mike Scott	ATL	1.160	1.167	300.0	-	22.1	11.0	15.0	20.5	-	2.9	6.4	3.0	3.0	180.9	126.1	54.8	12.8	18.0
7	Jeff Teague	ATL	.445	.289	127.6	2.4	9.8	6.1	40.8	7.5	-	-	27.3	11.0	1.2	108.2	132.0	-23.8	12.9	15.4
8	Al Horford	ATL	.460	.400	185.0	-	16.3	8.1	6.1	12.1	1.7	6.7	18.7	-2.9	1.0	88.3	121.2	-32.8	11.8	10.7
9	Lamar Patterson	ATL	.750	.750	100.0	-	12.3	6.1	20.4	50.0	5.9	-	20.5	-15.7	1.5	73.7	116.8	-43.1	1.8	9.8
10	Kent Bazemore	ATL	.453	.405	136.4	6.9	15.8	11.3	14.6	17.7	1.7	-	20.6	-2.8	1.0	90.9	126.0	-35.1	13.6	9.5
11	Kyle Korver	ATL	.536	.438	170.8	-	11.8	5.9	3.0	-	-	-	7.7	1.3	1.2	120.9	131.4	-10.5	5.9	6.1
12	Kirk Hinrich	ATL	.375	.375	75.0	-	18.2	9.6	-	-	-	-	16.0	-	0.8	77.7	135.9	-58.2	0.5	2.2

[Peoriabird]

Notice who are  the leaders in just about every category.  Scott and Humphries!  But Bud doesn't see it that way.

[Hawkmoor]

23 minutes ago, kg01 said:

@Hawkmoor you are enjoying this a little too much.  You're practically giddy.  Is that a Calfs jersey I see under your Hawks shirsey? 

Hawks ownership need to see this clowning.  Something has to make them seriously want a championship.

[Hawkmoor]

37 minutes ago, Spud2Nique said:

The Hawks got punked. No doubt about it. My only question is how do you defend a JRSmith 30 footer fadeaway off one foot? The guy didn't look at the basket one time. Lol. 

lmao. J.R. was making posters from the 3 point line. That fade away 3 was pretty. Heck, i bet even the Hawk bench was like " damn, that was sweet."

[Thomas]

Big difference in J.R. in NY and in Cleveland. He acted like a twelve year old and was a distraction in NY. But now he is shooting lights out. Does LeBron have that much positive effect on head cases? Was J.R. this good of a shooter in Denver?

[Guest]

15 minutes ago, Hawkmoor said:

lmao. J.R. was making posters from the 3 point line. That fade away 3 was pretty. Heck, i bet even the Hawk bench was like " damn, that was sweet."

I'm sure you enjoyed the 3's.

3 minutes ago, Thomas said:

Big difference in J.R. in NY and in Cleveland. He acted like a twelve year old and was a distraction in NY. But now he is shooting lights out. Does LeBron have that much positive effect on head cases? Was J.R. this good of a shooter in Denver?

Earl was always good when things were going well.  When things went off the rails in NY, he went off the reservation (how's that for mixing metaphors).

[Lurker]

38 minutes ago, Peoriabird said:

Notice who are  the leaders in just about every category.  Scott and Humphries!  But Bud doesn't see it that way.

Oh yes! The answer is start Mike Scott and Kris Humphries and bench Paul Millsap and Al Horford. Not just start one and bench Kyle Korver, start both!

Really...?

[AHF]

5 minutes ago, Lurker said:

Oh yes! The answer is start Mike Scott and Kris Humphries and bench Paul Millsap and Al Horford. Not just start one and bench Kyle Korver, start both!

Really...?

That isn't the answer but it seems hard to argue against more minutes for both.  To Bud's credit, he actually did that in game 2.  

The other observation from the numbers  @Peoriabird graciously posted (thanks!) is that our starters made their bones against Boston.  All of them have dropped wayyyy off against Cleveland.

 

The best thing I can say about this team right now is to repeat the old expression that "a playoff series doesn't start until a team wins a road game."  If we hold serve at home court, we can make this a series.  

The more gut reaction after last night's shellacking is wondering if we might challenge our own record for worst sweep in NBA history.  I really don't think that will happen but it has been ugly.

[Lurker]

1 minute ago, AHF said:

The more gut reaction after last night's shellacking is wondering if we might challenge our own record for worst sweep in NBA history.  I really don't think that will happen but it has been ugly.

If they do we will see some shocking significant changes. Not a coaching change, but player movement that people may not like.

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, AHF said:

The best thing I can say about this team right now is to repeat the old expression that "a playoff series doesn't start until a team wins a road game."  If we hold serve at home court, we can make this a series.  

This is the only saving grace.  At the end of the day, it's just 2-0.  Even if they'd won by eleventy-billion, it still just counts as 1 win.

 OKC could've let their game 1 loss to SAS cause them to also lose game 2 but they actually decided to show up rather than wallow in self pity.  Hope we respond rather than fold.

[hawkman]

1 minute ago, Lurker said:

If they do we will see some shocking significant changes. Not a coaching change, but player movement that people may not like.

NOBODY is untouchable. Ownership needs to do whatever it takes to bring an NBA Championship to Atlanta. If that means some fan favorites have to go, so be it. But what can't happen is the WLOC approach we've seen for almost 10 years.