News and Notes: Updated between Games

[Spud2nique]

Just now, Thomas said:

Believe it is all because we have TS and Chelsea now and "they don't". Life cycles man.

I don’t think people even begin to realize how many necks Jacob stepped on to give them a few years of fun. I hope it costs them another 30 years of mediocrity.

 

You cannot look at Lacob and tell me that fool isn’t a snake . Now I see why KD signed. rec in the bay main.

[JayBirdHawk]

Cam(mer) Time?

 

 

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[marco102]

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Coach em up Coach!

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[Thomas]

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Holly Sh*t. Any time guy, a downtown Freddie Brown would be ever so helpful with the way we have been tossing.

[JayBirdHawk]

The schedule makers did us no favors - We have another 3 games in 4 nights after just coming off one (with a 4 day break, smh). 

We play vs Spurs (Tu), Bulls(We) Kings (Fr)....all home games. I hope Trae is back. Will he play in the back to back if he is back? If not, Id hold him out untul the Wednesday game against the Bulls.

Is this the year we finally beat the Spurs?

We should beat the Bulls and Kings.

 

[JayBirdHawk]

 

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The four-day gap gives Young, who sprained his right ankle in Tuesday’s loss, Turner, who has been experiencing left Achilles pain and also rolled his ankle in the win vs. the Magic on Oct. 26 and Kevin Huerter, who’s working his way back from right knee issues, time to heal. (Collins sprained his left ankle in Thursday’s loss, but returned to the game and was able to go through a full practice Friday, mentioning his ankle is bruised, but it’s nothing serious.) 

After playing the Spurs on Nov. 5, the Hawks have two more home games (against the Bulls on Nov. 6 and the Kings on Nov. 8). They avoid having to travel for a while, even if they do have to play three games in four days. 

These next few days are beneficial, coach Lloyd Pierce said, for a few players to try to heal, but also for others to improve their conditioning, which has contributed to some lapses and scoring droughts in the Hawks’ three losses. 

Against Miami on Tuesday, the Hawks shot a season-low 42.2% from the field and 28.2% from 3-point range -- those numbers fell again Thursday, going 40.9% from the field and 20.6% from 3. As a team, the Hawks are shooting 29.2 percent from 3-point range (No. 28 in the league). 

Of course, five games in, that’s a small sample size, and Young being out no doubt hurts the Hawks’ numbers. 

But behind those numbers are a few players still building to full speed, Pierce said.

“Our shooting numbers are a result of guys just not having their legs behind them early in the season,” Pierce said, mentioning the conditioning of Huerter, Vince Carter, Alex Len and rookie Cam Reddish, who underwent core muscle surgery earlier in the summer. 

“Vince Carter is a shooter, we know. For him to be 1-for-whatever-he-is, part (of it is he’s 42), but part not having his legs there yet, but that’ll get better. Same thing with Cam, same thing with Kevin, same thing with Alex. Those are the guys that really struggled with their outside shot. It’ll help us get in shape, I hope.”

Huerter, who missed all preseason and has operated on a minute restriction in the regular season, working his way to 25 minutes Thursday, is shooting 26.3 percent from 3-point range (taking 3.8 per game). Len is shooting 15.4% from 3 (taking 2.6 per game), Carter is shooting 6.3% from 3-point range (taking 3.2 per game) and Reddish made his first career 3-pointer in Thursday’s loss. 

For Huerter, getting up to full-game speed also is important for his defense. 

“There’s some good of where he is, and there’s still some areas, his reaction time, especially defensively, it’s easy when you’re on offense, you can control the speed you go at, but on defense you have to react,” Pierce said. 

“You can see some areas where he’s just not there yet. And it’s no knock of his, but when you come off of injury, that’s where conditioning and fatigue and acceleration, deceleration start to show.” 

 

[NBASupes]

People need to learn that Miami is not this good, but their team values conditioning above all else. Our team values health. If you look, every year with Miami in their first 10 games, they look either really good or excellent and by the mid-season, they have a shitload of injuries. We need to be real about Miami. They are excellent but this is due to their regimen more than anything else. 

Edited November 4, 2019 by NBASupes

[Spud2nique]

30 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

People need to learn that Miami is not this good, but their team values conditioning above all else. Our team values health. If you look, every year with Miami in their first 10 games, they look either really good or excellent and by the mid-season, they have a shitload of injuries. We need to be real about Miami. They are excellent but this is due to their regimen more than anything else. 

Faquem.

[kg01]

12 hours ago, NBASupes said:

People need to learn that Miami is not this good, but their team values conditioning above all else. Our team values health. If you look, every year with Miami in their first 10 games, they look either really good or excellent and by the mid-season, they have a shitload of injuries. We need to be real about Miami. They are excellent but this is due to their regimen more than anything else. 

This is more true than not.  The dudes gotta go out and make the shots and all that, but it's not a stretch to say their quick starts are most likely indicative of the fitness thing.  That's cool and all but no need to go gaga over their early-season results.

I'm sick and tired of hearing about the 'culture' thing in MIA.  They didn't win titles on culture, they won titles on elite talent.  Culture is cute for guys like old-Haslam and Chalmers who aren't NBA-level players without it. But don't try to tell me their culture brought them titles.  That's plain false.

[Spud2nique]

20 minutes ago, kg01 said:

This is more true than not.  The dudes gotta go out and make the shots and all that, but it's not a stretch to say their quick starts are most likely indicative of the fitness thing.  That's cool and all but no need to go gaga over their early-season results.

I'm sick and tired of hearing about the 'culture' thing in MIA.  They didn't win titles on culture, they won titles on elite talent.  Culture is cute for guys like old-Haslam and Chalmers who aren't NBA-level players without it. But don't try to tell me their culture brought them titles.  That's plain false.

Man I dunno what ur talkin bout when I was there we ran a damn military boot camp and still couldn’t beat Mike. 
 

-Voshon Lenard (from way downtown BANG!)

 

Yes I agree. Lebron brought them the titles. I think they got off to a hot start but honestly how far can Meyers Leonard go? BTW speaking of Leonard, something weird is going on with him and Vince every time we play them. It started last year when Vince got popped by him if I recall correctly. Then again this season they got tangled and I think Vince said something along the lines of “play the game the right way” and Leonard just snapped and said WHAT! Like WHAT’D I DO NOW? Too funny.

 

[macdaddy]

I finally got around to watching the game and was pleasantly surprised.  Im still baffled by people who think Cam is not going to be damn good.  This is what a great, undeveloped NBA player looks like.   The fact that he legit started and ran PG in his second NBA week should tell you something.  (not that i want him to be PG)

Miami though??  WTF?   This is what makes me still pissed at the NBA.  How does friggin Miami still get so many calls (and 'respect') when they havent' done squat since that one jackwagon took his talents out of south beach.  Could they have traveled and goaltended any more?  I thought we were cracking down on that?

Agree though.  They have breakdown written on them again this year.  I like some of their guys but I don't think Butler can carry them in the playoffs.  

[Spud2nique]

2 minutes ago, macdaddy said:

Cam is not going to be damn good. 

Yes sir.

[AHF]

Miami is going to be in the playoffs unless Butler misses an extended amount of time.  Their style doesn't bode well for a long playoff run but they will wring all the wins they can out of that group in the regular season and then see who is left standing when the playoffs arrive.  It reminds me of the Chicago Bulls teams under Thibs.  You knew they were in the playoffs but would they have enough gas left in the tank to actually contend for a title?  

[Spud2nique]

2 minutes ago, AHF said:

Miami is going to be in the playoffs unless Butler misses an extended amount of time.  Their style doesn't bode well for a long playoff run but they will wring all the wins they can out of that group in the regular season and then see who is left standing when the playoffs arrive.  It reminds me of the Chicago Bulls teams under Thibs.  You knew they were in the playoffs but would they have enough gas left in the tank to actually contend for a title?  

I disagree with even the regular season success. The regular season is 82 games. The Heat are 5-1 through 6 games. We are 7% through the regular season. 
 

Butler/Leonard won’t make it through without injuries imo. 
 

After that it’ll be up to Nunn (the league will figure him out in 5 more games max) Herro (won’t be able to do much with Butler who will be injured most likely)...

Then Miami goes 3-17 during a stretch in the season.

Talking playoffs for the Heat is premature in a 6 game sample size imo. 

[kg01]

8 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

I disagree with even the regular season success. The regular season is 82 games. The Heat are 5-1 through 6 games. We are 7% through the regular season. 
 

Butler/Leonard won’t make it through without injuries imo. 
 

After that it’ll be up to Nunn (the league will figure him out in 5 more games max) Herro (won’t be able to do much with Butler who will be injured most likely)...

Then Miami goes 3-17 during a stretch in the season.

Talking playoffs for the Heat is premature in a 6 game sample size imo. 

I agree even though I'm admittedly sour-grape flavored about the whole thing.

I hate when folks get enamored with guys like the Nunn kid.  There's clearly talent there.  But if he were a guy sooo talented that he'd be able to overcome the incoming scouting adjustments, he wouldn't have been undrafted/cut/G-league guy in the first place.  The back-to-liiife, baaack-to-realityyy moment is coming.

*smack* *smack*  mmmm ... yeah, that sour grape tastes good, right?

ETA: Wait, did I just taste myself?

Edited November 4, 2019 by kg01