The Mega Super Rumor Thread (Part 2)

[Hawkmoor]

3 hours ago, MarylandHawk said:

Loyd leaves and we go on to to Eastern conference finals. Two wins away from competing for a championship. Meanwhile Loyd somehow makes the team he goes to worst. I fail to see your connection. In fact you are proving my point further.  If Trae doesn’t twist his ankle because if that silly referee, we might already have a championship with him. 

And right into the play-in tournament the very next season.  Teams usually play harder when a head coach gets fired because the focus and blame shifts to them. Had the NBA not got greedy and saw the value in keeping the play-in tournament, the Hawks wouldn't have even been in the playoffs last season.  Water finds its level though.  They got demolished by the Heat.

[Hawkmoor]

3 hours ago, HawkItus said:

Still the dumbest ish ever. You think Phil Jackson complained about Jordan getting calls. Or Chuck Daly when the bad boys didn't get called for physical play. He should've shut up and won some games.

Dumb means " can't speak vocally". Next,  the 1980's era of NBA basketball is when the NBA LET teams play physically.  Totally different style of ball.  How could Phil complain when hard fouls and all around physical play was the norm through out the league.  In fact, back then, guards didn't go into the lane without getting punished.  That was a no no.  Trae wouldn't make it out of one game back then without being physically pummeled.  Try one of them floaters of his back then.  Nah, that wasn't happening. Thats how they rolled back then.

Edited June 24, 2022 by Hawkmoor

[Hawkmoor]

3 hours ago, deester11 said:

We really using an in over his head coach to bash Trae? Did you notice they changed the rules and he still produced star numbers.  I think your "head in the sand" statement is correct, but not like you think.

This is too easy.  They look at this and just shake their heads at the easiness of it.

Edited June 24, 2022 by Hawkmoor

[akay]

32 minutes ago, Dean Walker said:

I caught it live but others heard it also!

 

Sounds like we're going after KD until that's not happening, and then we'll probably meet SA's asking price under pressure from Tony.

Also sounds like as long as we throw a max at Ayton we have a good chance of getting him as Detroit is probably out of the race.

The weekend has just begun, gonna celebrate our inevitable KD/Murray and Ayton s 

[JeffS17]

I personally think we don't need to make a ton of moves this offseason but at least one starter swap out.  We had a toxic locker room for the first half of last year and went 24-14 after we traded Cam and guys got healthy.  We obviously got exposed by the Heat and also had injuries in that series, but I think adding one all star like Murray would make a massive difference.  

[JTB]

6 minutes ago, JeffS17 said:

I personally think we don't need to make a ton of moves this offseason but at least one starter swap out.  We had a toxic locker room for the first half of last year and went 24-14 after we traded Cam and guys got healthy.  We obviously got exposed by the Heat and also had injuries in that series, but I think adding one all star like Murray would make a massive difference.  

Can’t get Murray without trading away Collins. So has to be 2 new starters at minimum if the goal is to trade for Murray.

[HawkItus]

34 minutes ago, Hawkmoor said:

Dumb means " can't speak vocally". Next,  the 1980's era of NBA basketball is when the NBA LET teams play physically.  Totally different style of ball.  How could Phil complain when hard fouls and all around physical play was the norm through out the league.  In fact, back then, guards didn't go into the lane without getting punished.  That was a no no.  Trae wouldn't make it out of one game back then without being physically pummeled.  Try one of them floaters of his back then.  Nah, that wasn't happening. Thats how they rolled back then.

3.

INFORMAL•NORTH AMERICAN

stupid.

"a dumb question"

Similar:

stupid

unintelligent

ignorant

[MarylandHawk]

47 minutes ago, Hawkmoor said:

And right into the play-in tournament the very next season.  Teams usually play harder when a head coach gets fired because the focus and blame shifts to them. Had the NBA not got greedy and saw the value in keeping the play-in tournament, the Hawks wouldn't have even been in the playoffs last season.  Water finds its level though.  They got demolished by the Heat.

So you are just going ignore the fact that Trae IMPROVED in efficiency this season. Ignore the injuries to Capella and John. Ignore the complancey of everyone after they got paid. Ignore the target the team had on its back by the rest of the league. Ignore the Cam, Heurter, Bogi log jam that caused tension. Ignore Dre’s up down season due to injuries.   Ignore our extremely short offseason due to the deep run and the fact this season was starting on time. I get it. Blame it on the guy that stepped up his game to All NBA level. 

[h4wkfan]

51 minutes ago, Hawkmoor said:

Dumb means " can't speak vocally". Next,  the 1980's era of NBA basketball is when the NBA LET teams play physically.  Totally different style of ball.  How could Phil complain when hard fouls and all around physical play was the norm through out the league.  In fact, back then, guards didn't go into the lane without getting punished.  That was a no no.  Trae wouldn't make it out of one game back then without being physically pummeled.  Try one of them floaters of his back then.  Nah, that wasn't happening. Thats how they rolled back then.

We gonna pretend that MJ didn’t average nearly 1 FT more than trae back then (comparing career #s)? 

he sure found a way to get to the FT line at an elite rate when refs all swallowed their whistles back then. I’m sure Phil never once complained about it tho. 

Edited June 24, 2022 by h4wkfan

[Peoriabird]

Time for part 3 mega rumor thread to start

[Hawkmoor]

28 minutes ago, HawkItus said:

3.

INFORMAL•NORTH AMERICAN

stupid.

"a dumb question"

Similar:

stupid

unintelligent

ignorant

Glad you went there.  You can take ANY word and go from its true meaning, and go into informal, which takes you away from the substance of the word.  Thats how they play with you.  Thats how you make it easy for them to keep doing this.

informal (adj.)

mid-15c., "lacking form; not in accordance with the rules of formal logic," from in- (1) "not, opposite of" + formal (adj.). Meaning "irregular, unofficial, not according to rule or custom" is from c. 1600. Sense of "done without ceremony" is from 1828.

formal (adj.)

late 14c., "pertaining to form or arrangement;" also, in philosophy and theology, "pertaining to the form or essence of a thing," from Old French formal, formel "formal, constituent" (13c.) and directly from Latin formalis, from forma "a form, figure, shape"

 

Edited June 25, 2022 by Hawkmoor

[TheNorthCydeRises]

1 hour ago, Hawkmoor said:

Dumb means " can't speak vocally". Next,  the 1980's era of NBA basketball is when the NBA LET teams play physically.  Totally different style of ball.  How could Phil complain when hard fouls and all around physical play was the norm through out the league.  In fact, back then, guards didn't go into the lane without getting punished.  That was a no no.  Trae wouldn't make it out of one game back then without being physically pummeled.  Try one of them floaters of his back then.  Nah, that wasn't happening. Thats how they rolled back then.

 

LMAO . . you really think Trae is SOFT, don't you?  All of those hits that he takes to get to the FT line, and you think he's SOFT?

Man please, a guy like Trae would've flourished in any era of basketball.  His defense would be better because it would've had to been.  But his offense would still be elite.  You can't hit what you can't touch. And if you do touch him, he'll go to the FT line.  And let's kill that noise about how tough the 1980s and 1990s were.  The game was a little more physical for guards back then, because you could hand check.  But the elite guards weren't phased by that hand checking.  All of them still did thier thing.

If Trae played in the 1980s, his ceiling would be Isiah Thomas . . and his floor would be Mark Price.

If Trae played in the 1990s, his ceiling would be Allen Iverson . . and his floor would be Damon Stoudamire.

 

Trae is an All-Star guard in any era and a generational talent.  What you saw vs Miami, is equivalent to what Detroit did to Jordan with the Jordan Rules.  It took a few years for Jordan to figure it out and toughen up. But once he did, even all of their antics couldn't stop him.

Keep underestimating Trae if you want.  He'll just make you look like you were crazy with your assessments, 2 - 3 years from now.

 

 

 

NO . . . that dude that is your avatar is SOFT.

Hopefully his playoff performance will turn him into a tougher player,

[JayBirdHawk]

[RandomFan]

[JTB]

35 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

What this mean ? …a random Trae photo?

what you know @JayBirdHawk ?

who gave you the scoop?

 

[Hawkmoor]

48 minutes ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

 

LMAO . . you really think Trae is SOFT, don't you?  All of those hits that he takes to get to the FT line, and you think he's SOFT?

Man please, a guy like Trae would've flourished in any era of basketball.  His defense would be better because it would've had to been.  But his offense would still be elite.  You can't hit what you can't touch. And if you do touch him, he'll go to the FT line.  And let's kill that noise about how tough the 1980s and 1990s were.  The game was a little more physical for guards back then, because you could hand check.  But the elite guards weren't phased by that hand checking.  All of them still did thier thing.

If Trae played in the 1980s, his ceiling would be Isiah Thomas . . and his floor would be Mark Price.

If Trae played in the 1990s, his ceiling would be Allen Iverson . . and his floor would be Damon Stoudamire.

 

Trae is an All-Star guard in any era and a generational talent.  What you saw vs Miami, is equivalent to what Detroit did to Jordan with the Jordan Rules.  It took a few years for Jordan to figure it out and toughen up. But once he did, even all of their antics couldn't stop him.

Keep underestimating Trae if you want.  He'll just make you look like you were crazy with your assessments, 2 - 3 years from now.

 

 

 

NO . . . that dude that is your avatar is SOFT.

Hopefully his playoff performance will turn him into a tougher player,

Trae could be the best guard in the league if he played the game the right way.

[marco102]

10 minutes ago, Hawkmoor said:

Trae could be the best guard in the league if he played the game the right way.

You, someone who will never sniff the NBA, trying to tell an NBA player how to play the game. Humble yourself.

Edited June 25, 2022 by marco102

[kg01]

2 minutes ago, marco102 said:

You, someone who will never sniff the NBA trying to tell an NBA player how to play the game. Humble yourself.

And a guy who, for some reason, wants Kyme here too?  Yeesh...

[Hawkmoor]

21 minutes ago, marco102 said:

You, someone who will never sniff the NBA, trying to tell an NBA player how to play the game. Humble yourself.

For STARTERS, the guys below never played in the NBA and did well "telling players how to play the game."  Hubie Brown, widely considered the greatest teacher of the game, ever, never played in the NBA, and told PLENTY of NBA players " how to play the game." Finally, I'm there are probably a billion posts on this forum from posters commenting on how a player " plays the game."

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1671529-must-nba-coaches-be-former-players-to-succeed#:~:text=Gregg Popovich and Erik Spoelstra,only two men still coaching.

Popovich never played in the NBA. Red Auerbach.  Spoestra, Vogel, I can go on and on.

 

Edited June 25, 2022 by Hawkmoor

[kg01]

1 minute ago, Hawkmoor said:

For STARTERS, the guys below never played in the NBA and did well "telling players how to play the game."  Hubie Brown, widely considered the greatest teacher of the game, ever, never played in the NBA, and told PLENTY of NBA players " how to play the game."

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1671529-must-nba-coaches-be-former-players-to-succeed#:~:text=Gregg Popovich and Erik Spoelstra,only two men still coaching.

Popovich never played in the NBA. Red Auerbach.  Spoestra, Vogel, I can go on and on.

 

Yikes.  Puttin yourself in he same class as Hubie and Pop?

Explain the Kyrie love then.