The Mega Super Rumor Thread (Part 2)

[gurpilo]

hace 11 minutos, sturt dijo:

I'll grant that Huerter was clearly the more marketable commodity. But BogBog was the one that needed to be sent out, if anyone, because of his age.

But I don't have to like that Schlenk spent all this time developing a young core of players who would naturally develop on-court chemistry together... I'm just persuaded that the concept is sound, and I'm equally persuaded that almost no franchise has the patience to ascend to it and maintain it.

Granted, the first guy to be sent out was sent out at his own request (Cam). But now, this makes two, and none of us will be surprised given all of the rumor chatter if there's not a third (JC) before long.

I hate it. We were building something very special and enduring. And now, we're just another team trying to outsmart every other team with essentially the same strategic plan as every other team.

I would also have sent Bogi out but you got a rotation wing and a first for Huerter, you would not get that from Bogi. 

Today Bogi if healthy is better player than Huerter and now with Murray he doesn’t need to play so much minutes and can have more rest.

We could not keep both, that was a problem.

AND (a big and for me) we got AJ Griffin and I also think he is going to play minutes as the season progresses, he is a creator, a good shooter, he is strong and has more potential to be a good defender. We need to find minutes for him.

[NBASupes]

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/atlanta-hawks/cap/

I was wrong @thecampster

 

9 players. 
Trae Young    PG    $37,096,500    -    -    -    $37,096,500    19.45    $215,159,700
($215,159,700)
Rk Extension / Bird
John Collins    PF    $23,500,000    -    -    -    $23,500,000    12.32    $102,000,000
($102,000,000)
Free Agent / Bird
Clint Capela    C    $18,206,897    -    $2,000,000    -    $18,206,897    9.55    $61,088,177
($61,088,177)
Acquired via Trade
Bogdan Bogdanovic    SG    $18,000,000    -    -    -    $18,000,000    9.44    $36,000,000
($36,000,000)
Free Agent / Space
Kevin Huerter    SG    $14,508,929    -    -    -    $14,508,929    7.61    $65,000,000
($65,000,000)
Rk Extension / Bird
De'Andre Hunter    SF    $9,835,881    -    -    -    $9,835,881    5.16    $9,835,881
($9,835,881)
Drafted / Rookie Scale
Onyeka Okongwu    PF    $6,395,160    -    -    -    $6,395,160    3.35    $14,504,223
($6,395,160)
Drafted / Rookie Scale
Jalen Johnson    SF    $2,792,640    -    -    -    $2,792,640    1.46    $10,228,905
($2,792,640)
Drafted / Rookie Scale
Jock Landale    C    $1,563,518

2022 NBA Luxury Tax Threshold    $150,267,000
Total Taxable Salaries    $131,899,525
Current Luxury Tax Space    $18,367,475

10 players
Draft: 
AJ Griffin $2,946,800

Total Taxable Salaries $134,846,325

13 players 
Dejounte Murray            26    PG        $16,571,120    
Kevin Huerter            24    SG            $ -14,508,929
Justin Holiday            33    SF        $6,292,440    
Maurice Harkless            29    SF        $4,564,980    
Aaron Holiday    Free Agent        26    PG    $1,836,099    

2022 NBA Luxury Tax Threshold    $150,267,000
Total Taxable Salaries    $149,602,035

14 players - rookie min

Martin - $953,012

Atlanta will be over the LT by (288,047) with a total taxable salary of 150,555,047 if they sign Martin and more if they sign Cooper. 

They could go into the season with this squad and make a trade to get out of the LT during ASB. 

 

Edited July 1, 2022 by NBASupes

[thecampster]

12 minutes ago, h4wkfan said:

Are you sure those #s are right? I need to pull it back up, but based on my rough math in my head (which I’m sure is oh so accurate) I was coming out to around the 1.1 from that tweet (including AJ). 

See Here: 

 

 

Out Huerter - $14,508,929

In Holiday - $6,292,440 , Harkless $4,464,980

Total - $151,094,491 for 13 players.

LT Line - $150,267,000

LT room -  -$827,491

Apron room - $5,888,509

[thecampster]

3 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/atlanta-hawks/cap/

I was wrong @thecampster

 

9 players. 
Trae Young    PG    $37,096,500    -    -    -    $37,096,500    19.45    $215,159,700
($215,159,700)
Rk Extension / Bird
John Collins    PF    $23,500,000    -    -    -    $23,500,000    12.32    $102,000,000
($102,000,000)
Free Agent / Bird
Clint Capela    C    $18,206,897    -    $2,000,000    -    $18,206,897    9.55    $61,088,177
($61,088,177)
Acquired via Trade
Bogdan Bogdanovic    SG    $18,000,000    -    -    -    $18,000,000    9.44    $36,000,000
($36,000,000)
Free Agent / Space
Kevin Huerter    SG    $14,508,929    -    -    -    $14,508,929    7.61    $65,000,000
($65,000,000)
Rk Extension / Bird
De'Andre Hunter    SF    $9,835,881    -    -    -    $9,835,881    5.16    $9,835,881
($9,835,881)
Drafted / Rookie Scale
Onyeka Okongwu    PF    $6,395,160    -    -    -    $6,395,160    3.35    $14,504,223
($6,395,160)
Drafted / Rookie Scale
Jalen Johnson    SF    $2,792,640    -    -    -    $2,792,640    1.46    $10,228,905
($2,792,640)
Drafted / Rookie Scale
Jock Landale    C    $1,563,518

2022 NBA Luxury Tax Threshold    $150,267,000
Total Taxable Salaries    $131,899,525
Current Luxury Tax Space    $18,367,475

10 players
Draft: 
AJ Griffin $2,946,800

Total Taxable Salaries $134,846,325

13 players 
Dejounte Murray            26    PG        $16,571,120    
Kevin Huerter            24    SG            $14,508,929
Justin Holiday            33    SF        $6,292,440    
Maurice Harkless            29    SF        $4,564,980    
Aaron Holiday    Free Agent        26    PG    $1,836,099    

2022 NBA Luxury Tax Threshold    $150,267,000
Total Taxable Salaries    $149,602,035

14 players - rookie min

Martin - $953,012

Atlanta will be over the LT by (288,047) with a total taxable salary of 150,555,047 if they sign Martin and more if they sign Cooper. 

They could go into the season with this squad and make a trade to get out of the LT during ASB. 

 

I'm counting Capela's bonus is the difference.  In reality it won't matter. We'll be going over. I know the bonuses were moved to unlikely. They haven't been removed yet and are still possible to be awarded. Best to keep those in.

Edited July 1, 2022 by thecampster

[GameTime]

[NBASupes]

1 minute ago, thecampster said:

See Here: 

 

 

Out Huerter - $14,508,929

In Holiday - $6,292,440 , Harkless $4,464,980

Total - $151,094,491 for 13 players.

LT Line - $150,267,000

LT room -  -$827,491

Apron room - $5,888,509

Your Capela numbers is off. It just got changed due to his likely gtd being moved to unlikely. 

[Final_quest]

The major shift in our roster construction is bringing in defense and toughness, but giving up shooting.  Will be interesting to see how this plays out on the court.  We were one of the top shooting teams % wise.  

[NBASupes]

Just now, Final_quest said:

The major shift in our roster construction is bringing in defense and toughness, but giving up shooting.  Will be interesting to see how this plays out on the court.  We were one of the top shooting teams % wise.  

We didn't take a lot of threes that weren't wide open. A lot of guys in the NBA can make those. We all saw Tony Snell. 

[Q45T]

3 minutes ago, GameTime said:

Wish he got traded to a different team at least for his sake… 

[Spud2nique]

3 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

Tony Snell. 

Is he available? He would be perfect  

2 minutes ago, Q45T said:

Wish he got traded to a different team at least for his sake… 

No the Kings are making a run here. They’ve made a few solid moves in a row.

[shakes]

32 minutes ago, akay said:

Nothing you said was about holding people accountable, it was just rude. There's ways to hold people accountable, and then there's just silly bashing 

Sorry dude, but I clearly favor “silly bashing” over anything else when it comes to message board posting 

[ShooterSays]

Gut feelings - another big move or just smaller moves to fill out the roster?

[sturt]

12 minutes ago, Final_quest said:

Sorry this didn't go the way you wanted.  The GM literally went on the radio stating he and the owner regretted running it back last year.  This is so far pretty minimal change wise based off those comments.  

(a) Well, we all want the same thing ultimately, I've assumed.

 

(b) Ressler regretted it.

I don't think Schlenk was anxious to blow-up his master plan... but what choice does one have when your boss publicly offers a strong opinion, right? Not much. And he of course is smart enough to concur with his boss publicly.

 

(c) The young core as far as I think most of us understood that term to apply: JC, Trae, KVon, Dre, Cam, Big2O.

4 of the 6 remain.

 

[RedDawg#8]

14 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

We didn't take a lot of threes that weren't wide open. A lot of guys in the NBA can make those. We all saw Tony Snell. 

I feel like many of is underestimated having a guy like Tony Snell.

He knew his role and executed to perfection. Didn’t want or need the ball. Just stayed ready to hit the open shot at all times. You need those guys.

[JTB]

3 minutes ago, ShooterSays said:

Gut feelings - another big move or just smaller moves to fill out the roster?

Honestly I’m good if we just stay like we are. We lost some shooting on the bench but now Bogi can focus in on being 6th man here. Justin Holiday has had some productive on and off years shooting the 3 ball but his defensive ability is way better than Huerter. Harkless isn’t a very good offensive player but I like the defense skill set he brings.

My biggest question is who’s going to play backup PF to JC….maybe JJ gets the opportunity but I just don’t see it unless Nate has a change of heart.
 

Trae and Murray are going to be extremely responsible for getting this team involved offensively and JC should really have more plays ran for him now that he has two playmaking guards.

[JTB]

21 minutes ago, Final_quest said:

The major shift in our roster construction is bringing in defense and toughness, but giving up shooting.  Will be interesting to see how this plays out on the court.  We were one of the top shooting teams % wise.  

Man ain’t that the truth!

going to be interesting 

[timebomb]

Just a random question if anyone could answer. All these max contracts I understand why Nikola Jokic got more on his max than Booker but why did Zion get more in his max than Booker?? Zion has never been an all star or all NBA and he got 231 and Booker who’s been to three straight all star games and was all NBA this got 224? 
Zion has barely played in the NBA that being said if he was on our team we’d have maxed him also but why is he even eligible for super max?

Sorry this isn’t about the Hawks but Murray will want max in two years and I’d like to know what that contract might look like also.

[RedDawg#8]

17 minutes ago, Final_quest said:

The major shift in our roster construction is bringing in defense and toughness, but giving up shooting.  Will be interesting to see how this plays out on the court.  We were one of the top shooting teams % wise.  

AJ is unproven but projects as a really good shooter, JC is above average as a PF,  Bogi remains, and then there is Trae. I think we need one more guy who is a guaranteed “bucket” but otherwise are in decent shape

Gallo was that guy for the bench. A throw it in and forget it type player. We could use another one of those. That is where Dre needs to take a leap and fill that void.

 

[terrell]

9 minutes ago, RedDawg#8 said:

I feel like many of is underestimated having a guy like Tony Snell.

He knew his role and executed to perfection. Didn’t want or need the ball. Just stayed ready to hit the open shot at all times. You need those guys.

Justin Holiday..

[Peoriabird]

2 minutes ago, timebomb said:

Just a random question if anyone could answer. All these max contracts I understand why Nikola Jokic got more on his max than Booker but why did Zion get more in his max than Booker?? Zion has never been an all star or all NBA and he got 231 and Booker who’s been to three straight all star games and was all NBA this got 224? 
Zion has barely played in the NBA that being said if he was on our team we’d have maxed him also but why is he even eligible for super max?

Sorry this isn’t about the Hawks but Murray will want max in two years and I’d like to know what that contract might look like also.

Hopefully in 2 years nobody has any money except bottom feeders