Hawks in talks with Snyder

[Gray Mule]

STOP ME IF YOU'VE HEARD THIS BEFORE

NBA teams plan their games differently when they face each team in the league.  Other NBA teams have plans in place when they face Atlanta.  They know all the players.  They also know each and every head coach and what to expect from them.  

NBA teams knew exactly what to expect from any team that Nate was the head coach of.  Stubborn Nate, all his moves set in stone.  How hard was it to plan?  Expect, and get, the same players, doing the same thing at the same time, game after game.

Just a reminder:  "What is it called when you do the same thing, over and over, and expect different results?"

Change of plans!  Joe Prunty will be at the helm tonight and he will not coach exactly like Nate.  How good or how bad the Hawks game is tonight, we know it will be different!

GO ATL HAWKS !!

[ShooterSays]

Hope we can get this deal done today. I'll be at the Farm on Sunday and would love for that to be Quin's 1st game.

[bleachkit]

7 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Interesting take on Pierce...

 

 

People seem to be ignoring some of the things Parsons said about Trae. That he struggles with leadership and he is better off being the second or third guy. 

[JayBirdHawk]

17 minutes ago, bleachkit said:

People seem to be ignoring some of the things Parsons said about Trae. That he struggles with leadership and he is better off being the second or third guy. 

Not ignoring.  How many times have I said Trae has to take ownership for his role in it.  Sometimes it takes awhile for these players to grow into a leadership role.  Some are born with it some have to learn it.  Being the best talent does not always translate to best leader.

I have said if you want him to really defer give him someone that is at least equal or better than him in the skill department.  Wether he is 1, 2 or 3 - this team needs more talent or needs someone to unlock the talent already on the roster.

I just put more of this on the 'adults' in the room to help him get there. I said before Trae still needs development.

...and Pierce was a real piece of work.

[macdaddy]

23 minutes ago, bleachkit said:

People seem to be ignoring some of the things Parsons said about Trae. That he struggles with leadership and he is better off being the second or third guy. 

But let's be honest he's making these comments based on his experience with Trae in Trae's rookie season where he was a highly touted prospect, 20 years old, already under the microscope from a controversial trade.   How many guys like that won't struggle with leadership?

[NBASupes]

13 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Not ignoring.  How many times have I said Trae has to take ownership for his role in it.  Sometimes it takes awhile for these players to grow into a leadership role.  Some are born with it some have to learn it.  Being the best talent does not always translate to best leader.

I have said if you want him to really defer give him someone that is at least equal or better than him in the skill department.  Wether he is 1, 2 or 3 - this team needs more talent or needs someone to unlock the talent already on the roster.

I just put more of this on the 'adults' in the room to help him get there. I said before Trae still needs development.

...and Pierce was a real piece of work.

We all know that, getting him that #1 option isn't easy. It takes another team to make that deal and be willing to do a deal

[NBASupes]

1 minute ago, macdaddy said:

But let's be honest he's making these comments based on his experience with Trae in Trae's rookie season where he was a highly touted prospect, 20 years old, already under the microscope from a controversial trade.   How many guys like that won't struggle with leadership?

Parsons was there in VC last year. That was year 3 for Trae. That wasn't his rookie year and honestly, Trae seemed to regress as a leader since even that season. 

[NBASupes]

1 hour ago, bleachkit said:

Who is stating that Pierce was a genius? No one has offered him another head coaching job so clearly that's not the sentiment of the league. And actually Parsons is saying some of the same things the local media "traeters" are saying. That Trae struggles with leadership and he is best off as the second or third guy, that's literally what he just said in the interview. 

He's highly valued within coaching circles in the NBA even if the Squawk hates him

[NBASupes]

1 hour ago, Afro said:

LOL, my man you could have grown up in Atlanta/Atlanta suburbs and STILL not have had a single Hawks fan friend 

Till Trae, I didn't know real Hawk fans exist outside of games I attended at Phillips

[deester11]

9 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

He's highly valued within coaching circles in the NBA even if the Squawk hates him

However true that is, his soft skills were /are not relatable to being head coach? He wasn't good from my non professional coaching view.  I could care less how the other coaches view him.

[JayBirdHawk]

 

 

[kg01]

3 hours ago, REHawksFan said:

In all seriousness, you got the head Atl Media guy on your side. So there's that...

 

 

 

Should I be happy or worried?

Atleast it confirms I'm not completely crazy.  Or it confirms my names Jeff.  You decide. 

[NBASupes]

5 minutes ago, deester11 said:

However true that is, his soft skills were /are not relatable to being head coach? He wasn't good from my non professional coaching view.  I could care less how the other coaches view him.

Well, if you can care less how other coaches view him, why ask how is he highly regarded. Many will tell you why? 

As they put it, they loved his innovative abilities, his ability to connect with his staff, his style of play he had his team's doing, and to them, he was charismatic.  

He didn't translate that over to the players and ultimately why he's an assistant right now but I wouldn't be shocked if he joined as a HC to an up and coming team. He has a lot of quality coaches in his corner for referrals. 

[kg01]

48 minutes ago, bleachkit said:

People seem to be ignoring some of the things Parsons said about Trae. That he struggles with leadership and he is better off being the second or third guy. 

Man, somebody cliff notes this thang.  I don't wanna give clicks.  Whats wrong with me? 

[macdaddy]

25 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

Parsons was there in VC last year. That was year 3 for Trae. That wasn't his rookie year and honestly, Trae seemed to regress as a leader since even that season. 

Looks like we're both wrong.  Apparently Parsons was there for Trae's second year. 

[Afro]

34 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

Till Trae, I didn't know real Hawk fans exist outside of games I attended at Phillips

 

100%. The only time I met any Hawks fans was when I lived IN Atlanta. The second you go outside the perimeter....they all disappear lol. 

 

I wear a black Hawks polo a decent amount of the time. Every time I meet a new group of people for something someone always asks, "Wait, you're like, an actual Hawks fan?". 

[sturt]

31 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

He's highly valued within coaching circles in the NBA even if the Squawk hates him

 

I think he's valued within coaching circles, which is why his name rose to the top of Schlenk's list in the first place. He didn't lose that intelligence in ATL, he built on that some first-hand experience of what it is to be "the" guy, and what it is to be charged with a roster full of developmental players. First season that he's part of a team that exceeds expectations, I'm confident he's going to be on the interview circuit.

That said. "Highly valued?"

Seemed to enjoy a popularity surge relevant to his public statements and activities relevant to the George Floyd episode. I feel he gets some extra gold stars on his chart from some for having the right politics off the court. Just sayin.

[KB21]

1 hour ago, Gray Mule said:

STOP ME IF YOU'VE HEARD THIS BEFORE

NBA teams plan their games differently when they face each team in the league.  Other NBA teams have plans in place when they face Atlanta.  They know all the players.  They also know each and every head coach and what to expect from them.  

NBA teams knew exactly what to expect from any team that Nate was the head coach of.  Stubborn Nate, all his moves set in stone.  How hard was it to plan?  Expect, and get, the same players, doing the same thing at the same time, game after game.

Just a reminder:  "What is it called when you do the same thing, over and over, and expect different results?"

Change of plans!  Joe Prunty will be at the helm tonight and he will not coach exactly like Nate.  How good or how bad the Hawks game is tonight, we know it will be different!

GO ATL HAWKS !!

The funny thing is, Nate was better when he stayed with what lloyd Pierce was doing after he took over.  It all went to shit after he went back to his traditional style of coaching.

[JayBirdHawk]

1 hour ago, ShooterSays said:

Hope we can get this deal done today. I'll be at the Farm on Sunday and would love for that to be Quin's 1st game.

I think if it happens - his first game coaching will be next Friday. We play tonight, Sunday and next Tuesday....then we don't plays until Friday, that will give him 2 days.

[REHawksFan]

53 minutes ago, kg01 said:

Or it confirms my names Jeff.