Hawks starting PF? It can’t be JJ

[macdaddy]

We need a player with an elite offensive skill at the 3, 4 or 5.   That was the problem last year that Hunter, JC, Capela weren't really bringing it on that end.  Bey looked great in comparison.  

I think JJ may be that guy eventually but it's doubtful that's going to happen so quickly.   JJ,00 4/5 has tons of potential but right now isn't an offensive threat and has some d issues too.  

 

 

[TheNorthCydeRises]

21 hours ago, Spud2nique said:

I’m sorry but I can’t start JJ at the 4 this upcoming season. He hasn’t done enough to justify a starting role on a club looking to get not only in the play in but homecourt in the playoffs.

We have Trae and DJ, we need a vet starting at PF.

Look, I like JJ but I watched 80/82 games last year, possibly 81, he would do most of his damage in small stretches in the floor. He hasn’t done any heavy lifting as far as PT.

I don’t see how many of you are comfortable with him starting. 
 

I dunno  

We're not looking for a top 4 seed if we plan to give all of our young guys significant playing time.

If it happens, great!

But that's not our goal .... unless we trade for Siakam.

[Diesel]

10 hours ago, Spud2nique said:

As our PF? Perhaps these days why not with the pf shooting 3’s and whatnot. Love me some JJ. 6 straight times he was an all star folks ️. Pay the man his due.

 

Joe Been on his Hulk Hogan Regimen...  Lift weights, taking his vitamins, and saying his prayers. 

 

[TheNorthCydeRises]

19 hours ago, Spud2nique said:

14.9 minutes… 5.6 points 4.0 rebounds 1.6 dimes .5 block .5 steal per..

Yall want him to start?

I need more this is like Chris Crawford in 99.

Given more minutes may not better stats.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/crawfch01.html

I was about to say, I don't remember Chris playing bad when he got extended minutes.

[Diesel]

32 minutes ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

We're not looking for a top 4 seed if we plan to give all of our young guys significant playing time.

If it happens, great!

But that's not our goal .... unless we trade for Siakam.

I believe as soon as we picked up DJM, our goal was to win. 

Yeah, we're fighting through chemistry issues. 

Yeah, we're very young in core places. 

Yeah, we are thin and thick at the 4.

But.. we have the talent to be a top 4 team.   There's no need to continually press the panic button.  And there's no need to take this "passive aggressive" we're not expecting to win tone because we may stand pat.   That's BS.  We are expecting to win.   We have talent that can win.  Stop Pouting.  Siakam is not the way forward.  KAT may not be either.  We may have just what we need.

 

 

[Spud2nique]

1 hour ago, macdaddy said:

I think JJ may be that guy eventually but it's doubtful that's going to happen so quickly. 

That’s all im saying. @macdaddy we got the check with JJ and pieces like Clint and Hunter, could we please just go for it now that Trae is entering his prime.  

[Spud2nique]

42 minutes ago, Diesel said:

Joe Been on his Hulk Hogan Regimen...  Lift weights, taking his vitamins, and saying his prayers. 

Damn he looks better than me and @kg01 put together.. why is he always glistening..  

[Spud2nique]

23 minutes ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

I was about to say, I don't remember Chris playing bad when he got extended minutes.

Perhaps it was just a time that I hated when we were about to enter a long rebuild and we desperate and Spree and Camby had just whooped. 

Us

[TheNorthCydeRises]

8 hours ago, Peoriabird said:

That's not for the year...That was only 25 games.  Whereas the bulk of the season 52 games he shot 34.5%

Why would you count the stats from the other team?

What did he shoot in Detroit compared to how he shot in Atlanta? And why the huge difference?

[Peoriabird]

3 minutes ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

Why would you count the stats from the other team?

What did he shoot in Detroit compared to how he shot in Atlanta? And why the huge difference?

Small sample size maybe?

[TheNorthCydeRises]

3 minutes ago, Peoriabird said:

Small sample size maybe?

25 games is 1/3 the season.

[Peoriabird]

1 minute ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

25 games is 1/3 the season.

Which mean 2/3 of the season means more. And so does his previous 3 seasons.

[TheNorthCydeRises]

7 minutes ago, Peoriabird said:

Small sample size maybe?

And I think you know the reason why he shot so well in Atlanta.

It's OK. 

You can say it.

[Peoriabird]

Just now, TheNorthCydeRises said:

And I think you know the reason why he shot so well in Atlanta.

It's OK. 

You can say it.

It's called a hot shooting streak. Every player has them.

[Peoriabird]

1 minute ago, Peoriabird said:

It's called a hot shooting streak. Every player has them.

We all saw that from Jalen Brown in the playoffs

[Peoriabird]

Heck...Dre has played in 16 playoff games and is shooting 40% from 3 in the playoffs

[AHF]

9 minutes ago, Peoriabird said:

It's called a hot shooting streak. Every player has them.

I would love to see Bey's shot selection in both places as I said on another thread.  I suspect he had a much higher quality of shots in Atlanta with more room to shoot and from better spots on the floor.  That may well be coupled with a hot streak but I'd sure like to see if the shot quality varied in going from an inept Detroit team to a much more talented Atlanta team.  

If no one has the data, I suppose we'll see it play it this season either way and see if playing for Quin and with Trae, etc. has resulted in easier shots or if it was all a smokescreen and he is truly a 34% 3pt shooter.  I'm betting on something closer to 37% this season.

5 minutes ago, Peoriabird said:

We all saw that from Jalen Brown in the playoffs

Brown shot 35.4% in the playoffs.  His career 3pt% is 36.5%.  That just means more of a return to his normal shooting as compared to his regular season which was extreme outlier for his career.

 

[Spud2nique]

10 minutes ago, Peoriabird said:

Jalen

Jaylen. Not the bust Jalen  

Edited July 21, 2023 by Spud2nique

[AHF]

6 minutes ago, Peoriabird said:

Heck...Dre has played in 16 playoff games and is shooting 40% from 3 in the playoffs

Hunter has definitely benefited from more attention given to his teammates in the playoffs like that Miami series.  He made good on those attempts.  Hopefully that will continue in both the regular and post-season to some degree for him.  Like with Bey, I'd expect that the 40% was a combination of better shot quality and periods of good shooting.

[Peoriabird]

3 minutes ago, AHF said:

I would love to see Bey's shot selection in both places as I said on another thread.  I suspect he had a much higher quality of shots in Atlanta with more room to shoot and from better spots on the floor.  That may well be coupled with a hot streak but I'd sure like to see if the shot quality varied in going from an inept Detroit team to a much more talented Atlanta team.  

If no one has the data, I suppose we'll see it play it this season either way and see if playing for Quin and with Trae, etc. has resulted in easier shots or if it was all a smokescreen and he is truly a 34% 3pt shooter.  I'm betting on something closer to 37% this season.

Brown shot 35.4% in the playoffs.  His career 3pt% is 36.5%.  That just means more of a return to his normal shooting as compared to his regular season which was extreme outlier for his career.

 

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