NBASupes Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 1 minute ago, Buzzard said: That is debatable. Horford has hit 9 plus boards a game in five out of nine seasons. What's more debatable is that if Millsap doesn't win enough games, he's likely leaving meaning we end up with nothing in 2017. Yes, Atlanta is going to really have to work the trades. While Boston is debatable since they have cash, Atlanta isn't. Right now, Wall Beal Porter Morris Horford is a better fit than Dennis Baze Sap Horford D12 Atlanta needs to find a great value for Millsap and of course, give him the 5 year max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Atlantaholic Posted July 2, 2016 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 5 minutes ago, GameTime said: Sap-Dwight is even better as far as rebounding is concerned. But is much worse at passing, taking care of the ball, and defending pick and rolls. Sap-Dwight is at best = Horford-Sap. Our front court was very underrated last year and were the main strength of this team. Horford's rebounding numbers look very bad, especially in the playoffs, but it wasn't totally his fault since he was out in the wings trapping on Defense throughout the majority of the games. Howard's rebounding will go down this year also if we employ the same defensive scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 Just now, NekiEcko said: Like I was, what is so important about that fifth year that Al wants so much. Shoot, even Dwight only went 3 years around the same amount he sign with the Rockets. We did offer the 5th year from the report, just not enough money I would say. Atlanta is on the clock. This can go really bad in a matter of 8 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkrule152 Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 Lets be real here. Al is a really good player, not a great player. He has only 2 post moves down low and one of them comes with a hook everytime that could be called for an offensive foul. And he can hardly go to his left hand in a post-up if at all. When he isnt in the paint (which was very rarely last season) he stands in one spot set-up to try and hit a jumper. I am a big fan of Al but if he wants to be drama filled after he has been all but begging to play the 4, let him walk. I see the Howard Millsap combo being much more efficient than the Howard Horf combo anyways. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 Just now, Atlantaholic said: But is much worse at passing, taking care of the ball, and defending pick and rolls. Sap-Dwight is at best = Horford-Sap. Our front court was very underrated last year and were the main strength of this team. Horford's rebounding numbers look very bad, especially in the playoffs, but it wasn't totally his fault since he was out in the wings trapping on Defense throughout the majority of the games. Howard's rebounding will go down this year also if we employ the same defensive scheme. Not at all. Especially by the numbers. Horford is one of the best roster fits in the NBA. Howard isn't. For fans, I can see why you would say that not really understanding the nuisances of the game but there is a reason why teams are hot on Al and NOT on Howard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Atlantaholic Posted July 2, 2016 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 Just now, NBASupes said: Not at all. Especially by the numbers. Horford is one of the best roster fits in the NBA. Howard isn't. For fans, I can see why you would say that not really understanding the nuisances of the game but there is a reason why teams are hot on Al and NOT on Howard. I'm agreeing with you bra. lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 Just now, Atlantaholic said: I'm agreeing with you bra. lol I was speaking in general. As fans, I can see why many would say that. Heck, listen to the guys on ESPN but there is a reason why one is wanted and the other isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasCredle Posted July 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 Just saw Woj reporting that Al has narrowed his choice to Wiz and Celtics on Dime. Supposed to decide between them tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDog90 Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 23 minutes ago, sturt said: Don't overlook the possibility that this is just posturing on Horf's agent's part, guys and gals. I guess they're really trying to force the Hawks to offer Al the full 5 year max. I find Boston and WAS to be weird choices. If anything if I was Al, following KD makes a lot more sense if he was to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 Screw him if he leaves for those middling teams. It's not like we offered something unfair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 2 minutes ago, ThomasCredle said: Just saw Woj reporting that Al has narrowed his choice to Wiz and Celtics on Dime. Supposed to decide between them tonight. Woj, didn't say that. He said they are the frontrunners as things stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hylndr11 Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 Yea looks like Al is gone - and Some of yall were soooooooo fuking wrong being dicks to ppl for thier logic, yall need a whole thread to eat crow for that bullshit. - Also there are plenty good arguments out there without Al being here but we need a scorer, not sure how that could happen, either way how are we now saying Washington is a better fit with AL when all this talk all week why we will keep him and that its a forgone conclusion, its funny cuz first thing I saw this morning was all of this from hoops and nothing was posted here till WAAAAY later. Nobody really wants to admit we may have shot ourselves in the foot here - big time. This is quite a gamble, and Im sure not at all what the Hawks planned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzard Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 2 minutes ago, NBASupes said: Right now, Wall Beal Porter Morris Horford is a better fit than I don't see the Wizards as a better fit for Al than us. If he goes there, the whole front line, offensively and defensively, will fall on his shoulders. Same for Boston. Horford has flourished and not been wore out with us because we have always given him someone along side to help with the heavy lifting, though not a true center, which is what he will have now. If he leaves for personal reasons, so be it. I like him and Howard together and most paying attention to the NBA do as well. It will be our loss and his loss if he goes to Boston or Washington IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NekiEcko Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 2 minutes ago, NBASupes said: Woj, didn't say that. He said they are the frontrunners as things stand. Yeah, we still have a chance, but I AM having a lot of doubt now about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txsting Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 Hawks need to meet Al demands, and not lose an asset that is easily kept. It's not like he won't be tradeable. Let's see this big front court for a year. If it doesn't work, move Al. Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkItus Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 Who do you think handles Tristan Thompson better? Dwight or Al Who handles Whiteside better? Dwight or Al In the Boston series how effective would D12 have been? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazer Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 Naaaaaaaa... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WraithSentinel Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 (edited) I will hold off on looking too much into this report. I do suspect some truth to it. Edited July 2, 2016 by WraithSentinel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzard Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 1 minute ago, HawkItus said: Who do you think handles Tristan Thompson better? Dwight or Al Who handles Whiteside better? Dwight or Al In the Boston series how effective would D12 have been? I would guess D12 handles most true post players better. Problem I have with your question is the sample size. At best D12 only saw both of these players twice a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hylndr11 Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 now everyone saying hawks are out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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