HawkItus Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 Doing? Passing on Luka Doncic for Trae Young has put Atlanta’s rebuilding process under the microscope By Justin Verrier Aug 1, 2018, 9:18am EDT SHARE Getty Images/Ringer illustration The offseason established a host of new story lines across the NBA that require closer inspection. Throughout August, we’re giving second thoughts to the most intriguing ones. Let it be known that, for five days, the Atlanta Hawks had a superstar. Sure, Carmelo Anthony is now 34 years old and coming off a career-worst season in which his signature shoe was discontinued. He was also with the Hawks—“with the Hawks”—only as a means of obtaining both his release and his money. But for a franchise defined in recent years by its inability to land one of the NBA’s precious few game-changing, seat-filling, product-moving, face-of-the-franchise-type players, it’s a start. Unlike their hapless predecessors in the early aughts, the past decade of Hawks basketball has been relevant beyond the ironic jersey market. As a result, Atlanta has been well-represented at the All-Star Game; in 2015, they sent four members of their starting five to New York, a feat hailed by teamwork disciples everywhere. But not since Dominique Wilkins’s departure in 1994 has a Hawks player moved an NBA-friendly fan base to do much other than tune out. Even at the peak of their success, the team struggled at the gate. The Paul Trillsap push, regrettably, did not reach mass appeal. So with new ownership and new management in place, and several 30-something mainstays due large new contracts, the Hawks let their best team since the turn of the century bleed out. RELATED The Rookie Curve: Trae Young’s Success Will Depend on Perpetual Motion But rather than rush to win now, as new owners so often do, Atlanta took the longest view possible. This Hawks regime, led by Golden State expat Travis Schlenk, has made it clear that their ambition ends once the games begin. Atlanta accumulated 24 wins, tied for third-fewest in the NBA, in its first season without a single starter from the 60-win heyday. Now it will turn the keys of the operation over to a 19-year-old with a turnover rate as ghastly as his defense. Luckily, new head coach Lloyd Pierce, a survivor of the leanest years of the Process, isn’t squeamish. Unlike in their very recent history, the Hawks can at least sell hope. (And if hope doesn’t do it for you, the nachos are cheap.) To that end, the front office has turned the offseason into a summer accounting course. In trading for, then waiving, Anthony, the Hawks are reportedly eating $25.5 million—or, the price of one prime Anthony Davis—in dead money this year. For its troubles, Atlanta rids itself of the final three years of Dennis Schröder’s deal, one of the last vestiges of the previous front office, and adds a lottery-protected first-round pick from the Thunder in 2022 (when the draft’s age limit could be lifted) to a growing war chest of assets. The Hawks may not play a single lineup next season with an established veteran at every position, but they may be able to draft an entirely new five-man unit next year. In addition to all of their own first-round picks and the one from OKC, the Hawks are owed two more firsts likely to convey next season, as well as five future second-rounders. Their books are equally forward-looking: Outside of a player option for Kent Bazemore (who is also very available) and Miles Plumlee’s final year, there’s nothing but rookie deals and clear cap space ahead. The Hawks have drawn mock-comparisons to the Warriors, Schlenk’s former employer, after using their two recent first-round picks on Trae Young and Kevin Huerter, two shooters with chalk outlines kind of similar to those of Steph Curry and Klay Thompson. But in taking the slow and methodical approach, the team has become the closest we’ve seen to successors of the Process Sixers. Tanking is no new discovery, and the stratagems most associated with and/or popularized by Sam Hinkie have already been seen around the league: The Nets have rented out their cap space to make up for their draft-pick debt to the Boston mafia, and the Bulls test-drove the long view before taking a $20 million flier on Jabari Parker this summer. But the legacy of the actual process behind the Process—not the cult following or the palace intrigue that sprouted around it—is in pushing the league’s flawed incentive structure to its extremes over an extended period in order to obtain as many paths to a transformative player or two as possible. The Hawks, most notably by passing up a chance to draft wunderkind Luka Doncic to instead acquire a future first from Dallas, appear in lockstep with the broad interpretation of that idea. Add in intentionally stripping a competent team down to its studs, hiring a Brett Brown lieutenant to oversee the day-to-day, and working the financial fringes, and Atlanta might as well be using Hinkie’s resignation opus as its show bible. The upshot of following that path is obvious for any Hawks fan who managed to hold on to a 2 Chainz shirsey this long: The Process worked. The Sixers are very good, and figure to be very good for some time. The downside is it runs the risk of dredging up the same divisive opinions that turned the Process into one of the most scrutinized topics in recent league history. Extreme decisions evoke extreme reactions, and by signaling that the offseason is the only season of any importance for now, the Hawks have invited long, hard looks at their every transaction. Unlike Hinkie, who quickly established himself as a shrewd dealmaker, Schlenk’s earlier body of work looks more curious under the microscope. The Hawks took on an extra year of Plumlee’s contract and moved down in last year’s second round to divorce themselves from Dwight Howard, and took on Jeremy Lin’s nearly $14 million deal and in the process helped Brooklyn add a first-rounder for absorbing the Nuggets’ bad deals. And while Hinkie’s moves often showed a strong analytical bent that would warm the heart of any blog boy or girl, the Hawks received the brunt of the backlash for handing over the rights to Doncic, the internet’s favorite Rorschach-test prospect, and selecting Young. In their quest to open up extra routes to a star, it’s possible the Hawks let one slip right through their hands. That would be a major blow for any franchise, let alone one still feeling the tremors of its decision to choose Marvin Williams over Chris Paul 13 years ago. Then again, the Sixers passed up on Kristaps Porzingis, another 19-year-old overseas prodigy, to draft Jahlil Okafor and are still on track to become a title contender for the foreseeable future. That’s the beauty of thinking big picture: A miss on Doncic may ultimately look like nothing more than a bad beat if the Hawks land the superstar they’ve been searching for next year or the year after. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators lethalweapon3 Posted August 1, 2018 Moderators Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 Are we "sure"? Heck no! We're Hawks and Atlanta sports fans, we don't do "sure"! Being "sure" would remove all the fun! ~lw3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 They willingly tanked, so no. They do not know what they are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurpilo Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 I agree with the article, we should not have trade Doncic. Better draft would have been Doncic, Holiday, Spellman or Diop and Mitchell Robinson, hands down, Doncic will be a superstar, I have no doubt about it, I knew Robinson would slip and could be a good prospect, we did not have any prospect at C. Trades are also bad, Howard, Schröder... I dont agree they did not have any trade value, what we got in return is really bad. Look at the Nets, that was a good trade, Faried could be valuable for us. Anyway I am still optimistic, I believe on Collins and Prince, I believe in Spellman as a contributor, I like Len addition but I still have high doubts about Young and Huerter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Popular Post Peoriabird Posted August 1, 2018 Premium Member Popular Post Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 Back seat drivers are the best drivers on the road. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg01 Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 30 minutes ago, Peoriabird said: Back seat drivers are the best drivers on the road. Eggsactly. Nothing wrong with healthy skepticism but that's not what I'm sensing ITT. Smells more like haterade. Plus 'mystery box'-itis in the Doncic luv. Mixed in with 'him look good in summer league so's he must be a all-star' syndrome. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathan2331 Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 I was one of the biggest haters of the draft, but it still may work out in our favor. Trae is more talented than I thought, and he seems to understand what it'll take for him to be successful in the NBA. And even if he doesn't pan out, the Mavs pick whenever it conveys could very well turn into a better player than Trae or Doncic. I'm not sure whether Schlenk is lucky or good at drafting yet, but Collins was a great pick, Spellman I've really enjoyed watching play, and I've seen a lot of other fans raving about Huerter. I still hate how we traded the #34 pick, but time will tell whether any of the guys I wanted actually pan out. Overall, I'm okay with how things are going. I don't want us to win too many games this year, but I am looking forward to watching the Hawks play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cwell Posted August 2, 2018 Report Share Posted August 2, 2018 Doncic will not be good in the NBA. This narrative is hilarious to me man lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffery123 Posted August 2, 2018 Report Share Posted August 2, 2018 This article is obviously slanted one way. We get it, the guy wanted us to choose Doncic. Let the guys play ball. Judge the trade mid-way through the season. None of us has seen Doncic play against the competition here. I guess for some it is fun to speculate. Personally, I agree with all the move the Colonel has made. At least he has a vision and is building towards it. I felt we were just floundering under Bud. He gave away and lost players and we got little to nothing in return. I am excited about the new start for the Hawks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted August 2, 2018 Report Share Posted August 2, 2018 It depends if you love Doncic or not. I love Doncic and only like Young but Young is more talented than Doncic and he has more potential to be a superstar. But his floor is much lower than Luka 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted August 2, 2018 Report Share Posted August 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jeffery123 said: This article is obviously slanted one way. We get it, the guy wanted us to choose Doncic. Let the guys play ball. Judge the trade mid-way through the season. None of us has seen Doncic play against the competition here. I guess for some it is fun to speculate. Personally, I agree with all the move the Colonel has made. At least he has a vision and is building towards it. I felt we were just floundering under Bud. He gave away and lost players and we got little to nothing in return. I am excited about the new start for the Hawks. This is true. Doncic has played against BETTER competition than any college prospect we could have drafted, and he dominated that BETTER competition as an 18 year old player. If Doncic had been playing ball in the NCAA, he would have run away with the Player of the Year honors.....as an 18 year old player. And I'm saying this as a person who had Trae Young 3rd on my draft board. My draft board was: 1. Luka Doncic ---------------- 2. Jaren Jackson Jr 3. Trae Young ------------------- 4. Wendell Carter Jr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted August 2, 2018 Premium Member Report Share Posted August 2, 2018 8 minutes ago, KB21 said: This is true. Doncic has played against BETTER competition than any college prospect we could have drafted, and he dominated that BETTER competition as an 18 year old player. I Depends on what you mean by dominated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted August 2, 2018 Moderators Report Share Posted August 2, 2018 10 minutes ago, Peoriabird said: Depends on what you mean by dominated MVP is a pretty good start. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted August 2, 2018 Premium Member Report Share Posted August 2, 2018 41 minutes ago, AHF said: MVP is a pretty good start. Maybe we should sign Sergio Llull Since he was Euro MVP in 2017 I very seriously doubt this guy would win college player of the year over Bagley or any year it was won by a freshman. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrell Posted August 2, 2018 Report Share Posted August 2, 2018 7 minutes ago, AHF said: MVP is a pretty good start. Candace Parker's brother won 2 Euroleague MVP's.. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathan2331 Posted August 2, 2018 Report Share Posted August 2, 2018 Candace Parker's brother won 2 Euroleague MVP's.. Was he 18 years old when he did it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted August 2, 2018 Moderators Report Share Posted August 2, 2018 Keep on moving the goal posts guys. We’ll see what he does in the NBA but his resume is the greatest in Euro history at his age. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macknsweetjones Posted August 2, 2018 Report Share Posted August 2, 2018 25 minutes ago, AHF said: Keep on moving the goal posts guys. We’ll see what he does in the NBA but his resume is the greatest in Euro history at his age. He also struggle against players that were more athletic than him..I expect the same in the nba where the majority of the players are more athletic than him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrell Posted August 2, 2018 Report Share Posted August 2, 2018 Trae young would be an instant star in Euroleague. NBA is a total different animal. I grew up with Chris Singletons dad.(he passed away when Chris was a child) He was drafted 1st rd by Washington, but barely saw the floor. I talk to him on occasion. He actually called me when he won Euroleague MVP of the month last season. He led the team in scoring,rebounds, and blocks...I was congratulating him, meanwhile, he was laughing..lol. Said he did it without even trying hard... So this is one reason why I cant take Euroleague seriously.. Hell, some had him winning the MVP for the season.. Btw, he cant even get a tryout to get back in in the league atm 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post EazyRoc Posted August 2, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 2, 2018 If you think Trae will struggle against NBA comp, just wait until lead foot Luka hits the NBA. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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