De'Andre Hunter: The Steady Eddy

[terrell]

24 minutes ago, Peoriabird said:

You might want to take a gander at the depth chart thread

 

Went through damn near entire thread and only 3 people had Cam over Hunter at SF on depth chart.(Sothron,Longtimefan,THeBigEtrain)..Gurpilo had Bogi over Hunter at sf which was reasonable..Thats not EVERYBODY  wanted Cam to start over Hunter as you say..lol

Edited January 20, 2021 by terrell

[Peoriabird]

2 minutes ago, terrell said:

Went through damn near entire thread and only 3 people had Cam over Hunter at SF on depth chart.(Sothron,Longtimefan,THeBigEtrain)..Gurpilo had Bogi over Hunter at sf which was reasonable..Thats not EVERYBODY  wanted Cam to start over Hunter as you say..lol

Bogi and Hunter don't play the same position so that doesn't make any sense. nbasupes put out a line up that had Cam starting at the 3 plus many of those line up put out by your main 4 received likes so go back and look again.

[terrell]

5 minutes ago, Peoriabird said:

Bogi and Hunter don't play the same position so that doesn't make any sense. nbasupes put out a line up that had Cam starting at the 3 plus many of those line up put out by your main 4 received likes so go back and look again.

Dude who cares? People are wrong about players all the time..lol.And I havent seen any of those people I listed say anything differently..I think Supes said it was gonna be a battle at camp with new FA's..Trae and Capela was only penciled in starters..Didnt see anything about Cam starting at SF..

Edited January 20, 2021 by terrell

[Peoriabird]

Just now, terrell said:

Dude who cares? People are wrong about players all the time..lol.

Now no one cares! Typical...If I say Hunter is better people care and attack me.  But when these same people are proven wrong, Nobody cares!  LOL!

[terrell]

12 minutes ago, Peoriabird said:

Bogi and Hunter don't play the same position so that doesn't make any sense. nbasupes put out a line up that had Cam starting at the 3 plus many of those line up put out by your main 4 received likes so go back and look again.

Bogi is a 2/3..

7 minutes ago, Peoriabird said:

Now no one cares! Typical...If I say Hunter is better people care and attack me.  But when these same people are proven wrong, Nobody cares!  LOL!

Who attacked you? "Hunter is better" is your opinion..Cam was picked on potential..I think people believed he had more upside because of Hunter's age..I didnt even believe that...And I like Cam. 

Edited January 20, 2021 by terrell

[Peoriabird]

Just now, terrell said:

Bogi is a 2/3..

Yeah right!  only in the world of Pierce

[terrell]

Just now, Peoriabird said:

Yeah right!  only in the world of Pierce

He played alot of 3 in Sac.. 

https://www.hoop-ball.com/nba-fantasy-news-and-advice/fantasy-nba-player-news/bogdan-bogdanovic-will-start-at-small-forward-on-sunday/

[Peoriabird]

2 minutes ago, terrell said:

He played alot of 3 in Sac.. 

https://www.hoop-ball.com/nba-fantasy-news-and-advice/fantasy-nba-player-news/bogdan-bogdanovic-will-start-at-small-forward-on-sunday/

Vince Cater played center and power forward for the Hawks so what?

[terrell]

43 minutes ago, Peoriabird said:

Vince Cater played center and power forward for the Hawks so what?

The difference is Bogi played well at SF..Not saying thats his natural position..

[NBASupes]

1 hour ago, terrell said:

Dude who cares? People are wrong about players all the time..lol.And I havent seen any of those people I listed say anything differently..I think Supes said it was gonna be a battle at camp with new FA's..Trae and Capela was only penciled in starters..Didnt see anything about Cam starting at SF..

You remember. Since the start of preseason. I've been split on who should start after hearing how good Dre was looking and I backed off of picking who should start between the two. 

[High5]

4 hours ago, Peoriabird said:

You might want to take a gander at the depth chart thread

 

 

I remember when you wanted the Braves to cut Josh Donaldson because he had a bad Spring Training. You might wanna chill with the callouts.

[RedDawg#8]

Most had Cam over Deandre because we all assumed Bogi was a lock to start and we thought we could only have one at the time. 

Cam still provides a tantalizing amount of upside and he is still in fact 2 years younger/behind developmentally, than Hunter is. Play strength and consistency being the major holes in Cam's game right now. Two things that naturally improve with experience.

Deandra was sold short by some, but in general we always knew he was the more ready and consistent  of the two players. His body was more mature, he spent 3 years in college in a program that built long term habits and an eventual champion vs Cam's 1 and done rockstar status season at Duke.

A lot of us saw Dre and said that he had the talent to be like Kawhi. I think that still holds true, especially how Dre is so steady and sound.

Cam has ways to catch up to the maturity of Dre's game.

[JayBirdHawk]

Trae's dad agrees:

 

 

[macdaddy]

Hunter is 2 years older with more and better college experience than Cam.   If Hunter wasn't clearly better at this point in their careers then I'd be really worried.    Cam has played one nba season,  had zero real nba offseasons.   I think we have two great wings.  It's going to take Cam a little longer.

I like how these guys are always talking to each other on the bench.

[RedDawg#8]

2 minutes ago, macdaddy said:

Hunter is 2 years older with more and better college experience than Cam.   If Hunter wasn't clearly better at this point in their careers then I'd be really worried.    Cam has played one nba season,  had zero real nba offseasons.   I think we have two great wings.  It's going to take Cam a little longer.

I like how these guys are always talking to each other on the bench.

ZERO!!

[AHF]

Hunter has been fanastic this year.  I expected him to make a leap but he has exceeded my expectations.  I think everyone (meaning all posters on the site) is thrilled by his improved shooting and play on both ends of the court this season.  He has been our steadiest player through the first baker's dozen games of the year and shows every indication that he can continue to operate at a much improved level of play from last season and be a key part of the team's success this year.

He and JC are basically the same age and the oldest members of our young core and look to be a dynamic pair of forwards for the Hawks.  Hunter and Cam look like a fantastic pairing in our wing roles now and into the future.

Hunter is a big part of why that future looks bright.  He is validating all the assets that we traded to move up for him.  Loving  it.

[marco102]

On 1/19/2021 at 8:47 PM, Peoriabird said:

You might want to take a gander at the depth chart thread

 

On 11/21/2020 at 11:37 PM, Peoriabird said:

I'm pretty sure all of the Bogi fans, Supes and Diesel will be insulted by your lack of acknowledgement of them as being the kings of fixation but I'll gladly wear the crown.  My only point is that there is no evidence that LP favors Cam over Hunter or even Huerter so why are people assuming that LP has had this change of heart regarding Cam?

Well that did age like milk.  LP was starting Cam over Bogi and Huerter.

[JayBirdHawk]

 

 

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There’s a drill Simplis does during which players have to handle the basketball in tight parameters while being guarded by two defenders, and the ball-handler has to make it down the court as the defenders are overtly aggressive and physical. A few of Simplis’ clients, such as Oklahoma City’s Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Brooklyn’s Spencer Dinwiddie and New Orleans’ Nickeil Alexander-Walker, have executed it well, which, they should because they’re on-ball guards. Hunter is 6-foot-8, has a wingspan longer than 7 feet and is more of an off-ball player. With the ease Hunter glided down the court, Simplis knew his client was destined for a bigger opportunity in his second year with the Hawks.

“I was like, ‘OK, guys are going to have a hard time guarding him with his size, athleticism, physical prowess, and now he’s controlling his dribble like that,”‘ Simplis said. “That’s when I knew he was going to make a big splash playing off the pound the way he executed this drill. When we started scrimmaging, it translated.”

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For Hunter, those opportunities can come when opposing defenses are keyed in on Young. Hunter’s offensive rise benefits himself and Young as there’s now another threat on the floor that the opposition has to prepare for nightly, which is something coach Lloyd Pierce has taken notice of.

“It’s added confidence for him but added confidence in all of us to see that we can play through him,” Pierce said. “He’s deserving of having sets called for him and putting the ball in his hands, whether it’s in the post or in the pick-and-roll. I think guys are going to start looking for him more. He’s shooting the ball with confidence. He’s shooting it with rhythm. He’s proven that he can be a scoring option for us. It’s just good to see guys step up throughout the year, especially when some of our other guys are out.”

 

[EazyRoc]

3 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

 

 

 

Pre draft..this was the determining factor for his career trajectory. He didn’t have a lot of confidence in his handle in college and his first year, but for him to be making these kind of strides early is certainly going to lock him in as an All Star wing. My Kawhi-lite projections don’t look so crazy anymore

[aali34]

4 minutes ago, EazyRoc said:

My Kawhi-lite projections don’t look so crazy anymore

His raw stats are comparable to Kawhi's 4th season when he was also 23. The visible differences are that Dre's been more efficient but Kawhi netted more boards, steals, and blocks.

If he keeps playing like this his end of the year offensive numbers might end up more like year 5 Kawhi.

I don't know if Dre has a DPOY trophy in his future but he could honestly get pretty close to Kawhi if he tightens his handle, improves his shot release speed, and works on his footwork and post fade. Those were things Leonard didn't fully bring out consistently untill years 5 and 6.

This jump is amazing given he played an incomplete season and had less practice time.