A few post-game thoughts.

[TRW]

1. Most of our players looked shook.

2. The officiating was horrible. Embiid was allowed to elbow and knock people around without getting fouls, but they wouldn't allow us to get anywhere near him. Philly is getting away with a lot of holding.

3. We need to stop doubling Embiid. Let him score 60 and stop everybody else.

4. We need to attack the basket and we need more ball movement. 

5. When a Philly defender put his hands on our player, we need to slap it off immediately. 

6. We need DeAndre Hunter.

7. We have to protect homecourt. 

[TRW]

8. Joel Embiid is not hurt. Dude is moving better now than he was when completely healthy. 

[Diesel]

1.  When we score, we can set up our defense.   We have to stop them in transition. 

2.  Curry.  Can you believe that somebody wanted to not Hack-a-Ben and allow Curry and Shake Milton and that Middle Eastern dude kill us from outside.   Get on him and put a hand in his face. 

3.  Doc has committed to having 2 guys shade Trae while one guy guard him tight.   With all that attention when the ball swings your way, you got to hit the shot. 

4.  I agree.. Embiid is going to get his shots.  but he clears out with him forearm on every drive.  Somebody needs to pull the chair or just fall the hell out when his elbow extends. 

Stop reaching. 

[NBASupes]

Hot zones

Hawks: perimeter offense- we are an elite perimeter offense. If we score 80 points, are chance of winning is extremely high. 60 points is our low end. The closer we are to the low end, we have a higher chance of losing.

PG, SF, SG

Inside offense - 40 points - high end, if we score 40 points, our chances of winning are significantly higher. Low end- 20 points. 

PF, C

We scored 41 inside points which is good but only 61 perimeter points which is BAD. Overall, we have an average chance to win if we are playing a bad offense. 

Philly hot zone

More of a defensive team. 

Perimeter - their high is 50 points. If they score 50 from the perimeter, they have a extremely high chance of winning. 30 on the low end.

Inside- 65 points, if they score 65 points, they have an extremely good chance of winning. 45 points is the low end. 

Atlanta has more offensive firepower since Nate took over but Philly is a better defense with a higher margin of error. 

In this game, Philly scored 49 perimeter points. That's elite for them.

Inside they scored 66 inside points. Both were on the extremely likely to win end for Philly and they won by 16. 

 

We can beat Philly but Hill and Snell got ran off the court for 0 points in 10 mins and forced Kevin and Bogi into massive mins that they simply couldn't handle on both ends, mainly defensively. Hill had a -18 in 8 mins. 

I hope Reddish or Hunter plays game 3.

Edited June 9, 2021 by NBASupes

[TheNorthCydeRises]

1 hour ago, TRW said:

1. Most of our players looked shook.

2. The officiating was horrible. Embiid was allowed to elbow and knock people around without getting fouls, but they wouldn't allow us to get anywhere near him. Philly is getting away with a lot of holding.

3. We need to stop doubling Embiid. Let him score 60 and stop everybody else.

4. We need to attack the basket and we need more ball movement. 

5. When a Philly defender put his hands on our player, we need to slap it off immediately. 

6. We need DeAndre Hunter.

7. We have to protect homecourt. 

 

I'm a firm believer that you must try to slow down the superstar player, because those guys are able to dominate the game if you don't do something significant to stop them.  Normally when the star player has it going, his teammates only have to provide timely offense, and the team wins. 

This is why I've been tracking Trae's high scoring games all year.  We're 19 - 1 when he scored 32 points or more.  When he's on, it takes the pressure off of the other guys to do things that they're not used to doing.  And it puts pressure on our opponent to match his production.

On the flip side, when the star struggles, it forces everyone else to pick up the slack. If Embiid is struggling, or not getting enough shot attempts, it forces the fringe guys to pick up the slack from a scoring standpoint.  Now guys like Harris either have to try to score 30, or the team has to be lights out on defense.

 

Unfortunately with Philly, they're so good with Embiid in the lineup, it really doesn't matter if he has a good or bad game.  That team is still able to win.  They've lost games where he's gone off and lost games when he plays poorly.

The Hawks are going to have to score a lot of points to win this series.  Like 118+ points in games that we win.  That means that guys are going to have to make open 3s and our star players will have to lead the charge.

 

[Spud2nique]

53 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

I hope Reddish

Really? He’s got a shot at playing? That would be a relief. Him or Hunter. Maybe both then hopefully.

[TRW]

Spud, I don't believe we'll see Cam this series, maybe the next series if we beat Philly. Lets pray we get a energized DeAndre Hunter back to take on his hometown team.

[TheNorthCydeRises]

Watching the first part of this game before I go to bed.  Tobias Harris had 12 of Philly's first 16 points.  He straight cooked Solo on the offensive end.

[Spud2nique]

2 minutes ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

Watching the first part of this game before I go to bed.  Tobias Harris had 12 of Philly's first 16 points.  He straight cooked Solo on the offensive end.

Ya he came out and punched us in the face.

[TRW]

Yep! We have to minimize Harris and Currys impact. That's why I believe we have to stop doubling Embiid. Hopefully, Hunter can slow down Harris.

[hawkzlova123]

Also shake Milton went crazy. 

And that was game.

[RedDawg#8]

Role players play better at home. 

[Atlantaholic]

3 hours ago, hawkzlova123 said:

Also shake Milton went crazy. 

And that was game.

Before Shake came in Philly fans in the stands looked like they just lost a loved one. 13 points in like two minutes? That was really the difference. We gotta hope that performance is a fluke or we in trouble because Embiid looks completely healthy to me. Doc trotting him out there with a twenty point lead in the late 4th should tell us all we need to know about his health imo. Bench play has been a huge advantage for the Hawks but if this guy catches fire again it can negate that advantage. 

[JayBirdHawk]

Our starting unit struggled vs theirs because of Solo.  We need another guy that's a ballhandler and a guy that can get into the paint to loosen the defense. Either to score or pass.

4 hours ago, hawkzlova123 said:

Also shake Milton went crazy. 

And that was game.

Hopefully this was Shake's Alec Burks moment.

[dalamchops]

i feel like embiid got too comfortable because we show him the double way too slow. make him react faster and put the ball on the floor. hands could be more active too when they hold the ball.

[Atlantaholic]

I did not like the look on our players faces and our body language. Especially, but not exclusively, Trae's. There was non of the confidence and focus of game 1. Fatigue may have been a factor. Tip of the cap to Philly fans and their players, look like they took note of the first round series, because they have done a fantastic job of not antagonaizing Trae Young which was the dumbest thing the Knicks and their fans did.. The team needs to look at itself in the mirror and find that dog they had the first six playoffs game because they looked more like a deer in the headlights than a ECF team yesterday. Like Mike Tyson said everyone has a plan until they get hit in the face. Hawks just got smacked for the first time... how this team reacts at home will tell us everything we need to know about the makeup of the team imo. 

[hylndr11]

Yea it.judt seemed off , no energy almost like they took the game off, trea.was.just not attacking the same I know he was defended differently but they knew that was going to happen.  

[NBASupes]

6 hours ago, RedDawg#8 said:

Role players play better at home. 

This scheme is made to force others to create in isolation. 

[macdaddy]

Just not getting why Nate doesn't work the officials more.   I know it may not be his style but he's been in the league long enough to know it works.   Honestly we should have challenged that egregious display when snell got punched, fouled and then OO blocks Embiid.  I know it was first half but it would have forced the world and the refs to look at just how badly they 'missed' that whole sequence.   You can bet if that was the sixers Doc would have been running around the court crying like a baby. 

[HawkItus]

Make or miss league.  We missed too many bunnies and open 3's.  They hit their shots and finished well.  Simple.