Best ⭐️ Robin to Trae’s Batman 🦇

[Diesel]

4 hours ago, AHF said:

The issue is more the fact that neither Ben nor Cap can score when they aren't right next to the basket.  

Looking at Philly's 2020-21 5 man lineups, the story is that they did NOT play together by design.  Look at the lineups with Simmons and those with Howard and what do you see?  Almost every one where Simmons is on the floor, Howard isn't.  Almost every one where Howard is on the floor, Simmons isn't.  And the one lineup with both of them?  It stunk offensively.

The clear message here is that Philly concluded they did not work together.  And that makes perfect sense.

 

The message is not so clear.  I also noted that you incidences where Simmons played with Tony Bradley.  Bradly can't shoot either.. so you can highlight those numbers as well.    Doc Rivers has gone on record saying that when Embiid is out (during that season) that he preferred playing Bradley with the first team and Dwight with the 2nd team... Here's what he said Verbatem:

""I like Dwight playing with the second group because that's what he's used to," Rivers explained before Sunday's game. "I typically try to keep at least one group together, so you don't change that. I could start Tony tonight -- most likely, I will.""

So it's not that they don't work together or that Simmons don't play well with a non-shooting center.  It's more like Doc's preference is keeping continuity with one team.  Prolly cause he found that bring Howard to the first team messes up Howard. 

[JayBirdHawk]

19 minutes ago, Diesel said:

The message is not so clear.  I also noted that you incidences where Simmons played with Tony Bradley.  Bradly can't shoot either.. so you can highlight those numbers as well.    Doc Rivers has gone on record saying that when Embiid is out (during that season) that he preferred playing Bradley with the first team and Dwight with the 2nd team... Here's what he said Verbatem:

""I like Dwight playing with the second group because that's what he's used to," Rivers explained before Sunday's game. "I typically try to keep at least one group together, so you don't change that. I could start Tony tonight -- most likely, I will.""

So it's not that they don't work together or that Simmons don't play well with a non-shooting center.  It's more like Doc's preference is keeping continuity with one team.  Prolly cause he found that bring Howard to the first team messes up Howard. 

How many meaningful minutes did they play together?  Crunch time minutes?

Teams will have a field day with the Hack-a-pela-ben until the last 2 minutes! In the Last 2 minutes we know Simmons won't drive for fear of getting fouled and he's not a shooting threat.  

[Diesel]

6 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

How many meaningful minutes did they play together?  Crunch time minutes?

Teams will have a field day with the Hack-a-pela-ben until the last 2 minutes! In the Last 2 minutes we know Simmons won't drive for fear of getting fouled and he's not a shooting threat.  

If we get Simmons and he plays alongside of Trae.. at the end of games, we'd be so far ahead that Hack a ben and Hack a Cap won't matter.

 

[Sothron]

11 minutes ago, Diesel said:

If we get Simmons and he plays alongside of Trae.. at the end of games, we'd be so far ahead that Hack a ben and Hack a Cap won't matter.

 

You can't be serious with that. C'mon man. We both know the playoffs are another animal. Most games are close. We could never put both Simmons and Cap on the floor together in the fourth in a close game.

[macdaddy]

9 minutes ago, Sothron said:

We could never put both Simmons and Cap on the floor together in the fourth in a close game.

No doubt.  If our mantra is Pass, Dribble, shoot then we're abandoning it.   

Not only is the end of the game a problem but you get 2 opposing defenders who get to just hang around the lane which happens to be the place that Trae and JC do a lot of their damage.  

 

 

[Spud2nique]

Lineup A:  

Trae 

Huerter

Hunter

Simmons

Capela

 

Lineup B:

Trae 

Huerter

Hunter

KAT

Capela

@kg01 what’s the SGA one? shooting guard right, would Huerter then be the 3? 

[Spud2nique]

@Sothron reps KAT

@kg01 SGA

I guess I got Jaylen but apparently they want to give it a try in Boston.  

[Spud2nique]

@Sothron KAT is a fun run in 2K man.. seriously, maybe him and Trae wouldn’t be stopped. 
 

28/10/6/6 is pretty I’m not gonna lie. 

[Sothron]

Just now, Spud2nique said:

@Sothron KAT is a fun run in 2K man.. seriously, maybe him and Trae wouldn’t be stopped. 
 

28/10/6/6 is pretty I’m not gonna lie. 

KAT has like a 63% or better TS this season. He's such an unstoppable force on offense.

[JeffS17]

53 minutes ago, Sothron said:

KAT has like a 63% or better TS this season. He's such an unstoppable force on offense.

It's true, the more I watch the Wolves the more I realize there's no way minny gives him up lol

[QuantumHawkz]

We don't need to blow this group up yet. They have to be the average defense they were in the playoffs......which was enough to knock out the Knicks, Sixers and take the world champs to game 6. Like I've said before, Defense and depth will determine how far this team will go. 

[HawkItus]

*plot twist* the Hawks Hawk and trade Trae for defense

[TheNorthCydeRises]

16 hours ago, QuantumHawkz said:

We don't need to blow this group up yet. They have to be the average defense they were in the playoffs......which was enough to knock out the Knicks, Sixers and take the world champs to game 6. Like I've said before, Defense and depth will determine how far this team will go. 

 

But our defense and depth sucks this season.

So what do we do?

[hazer]

Simmons. Tremendous D and slasher.

Trae/Huert/Dre/Ben/JC

Tah-dah!

[Hawkmoor]

[txsting]

Haliburton.  We don't need a huge move.  He gives you the secondary playmaking and flexibility to play point that people like about Simmons, but without the 33MM salary, the lack of shooting, and the shitbird agent.  He gives you a plus defender, though obviously not as great or versatile on defense as Simmons.  I'm okay with it being Simmons if we can do it without losing JC, but even then I think a Haliburton deal makes just as much sense and is way less risky.

Since Hali would need to be paid in a few years, center the deal around Kevin Huerter.  We can free some cap room for the Kings by taking back Barnes (if they wanted), and we could ship them something else they would like.  Perhaps Jalen Johnson and a pick.  Delon.  We have a nice variety of assets and picks for the Kings shopping pleasure.  Making this more likely is that we have a great relationship with the Kings front office and have been a frequent trading partner.

Grey Mule, get in mate!!!!

Edited January 14, 2022 by txsting