STAND PAT!!!!!!

[swanlee]

Yea I wish we could be more consistent, but our peak with this lineup is a top 3 NBA team and it would be silly to keep trying to mess with that. 

We are such a young team that we are going to have growing pains, even good Vet teams have bad seasons. While it sucks we can't steam roll the league and all the Covid crap put us behind the 8 ball as far as win loss record from what I can see this is a REAL team and we still need to stay the course cause when we mature mentally but our still physically at our peak this team will be unstoppable.

Before Trae and this core were put together the Hawks were such a mis mash of castoff and vets that we were never really a TEAM. This roster is a TEAM we just need time to mature.

[AHF]

1 hour ago, Diesel said:

The problem with that logic is that we didn't show that we were title contenders last season and there we were in the ECFs two games away from the finals. 

 

After Nate took over, we were among the very best and most consistent teams in the league for the rest of the regular season.

27-11 is a 71% win rate which would have been the 2nd best record in the entire league if pro-rated for a full season.

[shakes]

39 minutes ago, swanlee said:

Yea I wish we could be more consistent, but our peak with this lineup is a top 3 NBA team and it would be silly to keep trying to mess with that. 

We are such a young team that we are going to have growing pains, even good Vet teams have bad seasons. While it sucks we can't steam roll the league and all the Covid crap put us behind the 8 ball as far as win loss record from what I can see this is a REAL team and we still need to stay the course cause when we mature mentally but our still physically at our peak this team will be unstoppable.

Before Trae and this core were put together the Hawks were such a mis mash of castoff and vets that we were never really a TEAM. This roster is a TEAM we just need time to mature.

 

COVID didn't put this team behind the 8 ball.  Reading their press clippings all summer and responding by basically not trying for the first month of the season put this team behind the 8 ball.   Covid came after that.  If this team had tried the first month of the season we woudl've had a Covid cushion so to speak and could've weathered the Covid storm in December.

 

 

[macdaddy]

We were 12-10 on december 1st.  Not great but not that bad and we had the hardest schedule in the league to that point.    But we were playing december without Hunter, OO, and Bogi and started to slide and then of course played a bunch of games without most of the team.   So i'm not discounting injuries + Covid for helping derail things.  

[swanlee]

4 hours ago, macdaddy said:

We were 12-10 on december 1st.  Not great but not that bad and we had the hardest schedule in the league to that point.    But we were playing december without Hunter, OO, and Bogi and started to slide and then of course played a bunch of games without most of the team.   So i'm not discounting injuries + Covid for helping derail things.  

Yea we were fine before covid screwed us up. Either way though we are a young team and will have some growing  pains. You can't get past that if you over react and nuke our roster

[terrell]

7 hours ago, swanlee said:

Yea I wish we could be more consistent, but our peak with this lineup is a top 3 NBA team and it would be silly to keep trying to mess with that. 

We are such a young team that we are going to have growing pains, even good Vet teams have bad seasons. While it sucks we can't steam roll the league and all the Covid crap put us behind the 8 ball as far as win loss record from what I can see this is a REAL team and we still need to stay the course cause when we mature mentally but our still physically at our peak this team will be unstoppable.

Before Trae and this core were put together the Hawks were such a mis mash of castoff and vets that we were never really a TEAM. This roster is a TEAM we just need time to mature.

Grizzlies, Cavs, Sixers, Hornets, Bulls, Celtics, Raptors, are all younger than we are....................

I'm tired of the  "we are so young" excuse.....

[terrell]

5 hours ago, macdaddy said:

We were 12-10 on december 1st.  Not great but not that bad and we had the hardest schedule in the league to that point.    But we were playing december without Hunter, OO, and Bogi and started to slide and then of course played a bunch of games without most of the team.   So i'm not discounting injuries + Covid for helping derail things.  

Cavs schedule was hardest..

[Diesel]

10 hours ago, shakes said:

 

COVID didn't put this team behind the 8 ball.  Reading their press clippings all summer and responding by basically not trying for the first month of the season put this team behind the 8 ball.   Covid came after that.  If this team had tried the first month of the season we woudl've had a Covid cushion so to speak and could've weathered the Covid storm in December.

 

 

That's BS. 

Covid was the compounding factor along with injures to Hunter and others.

We were 4-3 going into Nov.   With losses to Philly, Cleveland, and Washington. 

In Nov we had our skid..

Losing to BKLN, Phoenix, Utah, GS, Utah, & Denver.   All away games except 1 Utah game. 

We followed that with a 7 game win streak starting with a win over Milwaukee. 

After that started the COVID games.   We had COVID plus some games with NO Bogi, NO Hunter, No Trae, NO Clint, and No JC.   Our team had to be the worst injury/Covid team out. 

 

[Diesel]

3 hours ago, terrell said:

Cavs schedule was hardest..

You just wanted to say that right.??

Doesn't stack up. 

Good News though.. We got the easiest schedule for the rest of the way. 

[terrell]

17 minutes ago, Diesel said:

You just wanted to say that right.??

Doesn't stack up. 

Good News though.. We got the easiest schedule for the rest of the way. 

Um, thats the remaining schedule..  He was talking about at the start of the season......

[Diesel]

4 hours ago, terrell said:

Um, thats the remaining schedule..  He was talking about at the start of the season......

Did you even look at the page???   Thus far, we have had the 3rd Hardest schedule in the League.   Cleveland has had the 19th hardest which is the 11th easiest.   

I was saying that for the rest of the way (bottom of the page) we will have the easiest schedule in the league. 

Sometimes, it seems like you just be saying shit just to say it.  

[shakes]

10 hours ago, Diesel said:

That's BS. 

Covid was the compounding factor along with injures to Hunter and others.

We were 4-3 going into Nov.   With losses to Philly, Cleveland, and Washington. 

In Nov we had our skid..

Losing to BKLN, Phoenix, Utah, GS, Utah, & Denver.   All away games except 1 Utah game. 

We followed that with a 7 game win streak starting with a win over Milwaukee. 

After that started the COVID games.   We had COVID plus some games with NO Bogi, NO Hunter, No Trae, NO Clint, and No JC.   Our team had to be the worst injury/Covid team out. 

 

naw, that's homer posting at its finest.   There were 7 or 8 teams that were hit by Covid just as hard as us.  And there are plenty of other teams that have been hit by injuries worse that us.

 

Next you're gonna claim that we get hurt more by bad refs than any other team.

[macdaddy]

5 minutes ago, shakes said:

There were 7 or 8 teams that were hit by Covid just as hard as us

I'd be curious to see evidence of this.   We set an NBA record for largest roster in a single season i think with 24 players signed.   There are lots of ways to measure 'hit hardest' but we had at least three losses where the vast majority of minutes played were by 10 day guys.  I"m not sure there are 7 or 8 other teams in that situation. 

[shakes]

1 minute ago, macdaddy said:

I'd be curious to see evidence of this.   We set an NBA record for largest roster in a single season i think with 24 players signed.   There are lots of ways to measure 'hit hardest' but we had at least three losses where the vast majority of minutes played were by 10 day guys.  I"m not sure there are 7 or 8 other teams in that situation. 

ESPN Insider article from January 4.  Not sure when our Covid outbreak ended, but as of that date we were #8 in terms of most value lost behind Cleveland, Philly, Milwaukee, Minny, Chicago , Charlotte and Brooklyn.

 

No one lost more to Covid than Cleveland yet you don't hear their fans crying COVID COVID COVID from every rooftop in town like our fans.

[Diesel]

5 minutes ago, shakes said:

naw, that's homer posting at its finest.   There were 7 or 8 teams that were hit by Covid just as hard as us.  And there are plenty of other teams that have been hit by injuries worse that us.

 

Next you're gonna claim that we get hurt more by bad refs than any other team.

Nawl..

OO didn't play until Jan.  

Hunter missed significant time. 

Look how significant their games have been to our success. 

I realize that some teams have missed their main starter like BKLN, PTL, and Memphis.  But how many teams have been missing major peices and their main starters and their coach?

 

This is what we played Philly with in December.

Starters	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS	+/-
Onyeka Okongwu	34:02	6	10	.600	0	0		1	1	1.000	3	5	8	3	1	3	1	2	13	+6
Delon Wright	33:35	2	5	.400	1	2	.500	0	0		1	4	5	6	0	1	1	0	5	+8
Skylar Mays	33:28	6	11	.545	1	2	.500	1	1	1.000	4	7	11	3	1	0	1	0	14	+9
John Collins	30:42	7	11	.636	2	2	1.000	1	2	.500	0	5	5	1	1	0	2	5	17	+3
Cam Reddish	27:35	7	13	.538	0	3	.000	4	4	1.000	0	1	1	3	1	0	2	1	18	+13
Reserves	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS	+/-
Bogdan Bogdanović	27:50	4	17	.235	1	9	.111	6	7	.857	0	5	5	2	0	0	2	3	15	-3
Wes Iwundu	23:15	1	5	.200	0	0		0	0		2	3	5	0	0	0	1	2	2	-9
Gorgui Dieng	13:58	3	6	.500	2	5	.400	4	4	1.000	1	4	5	2	1	0	0	1	12	-4
Lance Stephenson	11:00	1	3	.333	0	1	.000	0	0		0	1	1	0	0	0	0	4	2	-7
Jalen Johnson	4:35	0	1	.000	0	0		0	0		0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	-6
Malcolm Hill	Did Not Play
Sharife Cooper	Did Not Play
Kevin Huerter	Did Not Play
Team Totals	240	37	82	.451	7	24	.292	17	19	.895	11	35	46	20	5	4	10	19

Starters	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS	+/-
Bogdan Bogdanović	35:43	2	12	.167	2	8	.250	2	3	.667	0	5	5	4	1	0	2	1	8	-17
Cam Reddish	34:18	4	15	.267	1	8	.125	1	1	1.000	0	6	6	3	2	0	2	1	10	-18
Delon Wright	33:57	8	13	.615	4	5	.800	0	0		2	2	4	2	3	1	1	1	20	-18
John Collins	32:47	7	18	.389	3	5	.600	3	4	.750	2	6	8	3	0	2	1	2	20	-21
Clint Capela	27:46	2	7	.286	0	0		2	6	.333	4	5	9	1	0	2	1	3	6	-14
Reserves	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS	+/-
Skylar Mays	22:33	5	11	.455	1	6	.167	0	0		0	0	0	2	2	0	0	1	11	-2
Gorgui Dieng	20:14	2	6	.333	2	4	.500	0	0		0	4	4	5	0	0	1	1	6	0
Jalen Johnson	15:13	2	3	.667	0	1	.000	0	0		0	7	7	0	0	0	2	1	4	+7
Lance Stephenson	13:37	1	2	.500	0	1	.000	0	0		0	3	3	2	0	0	1	1	2	+3
Cat Barber	1:56	0	0		0	0		0	0		0	0	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	+5
Malcolm Hill	1:56	0	0		0	0		0	0		0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	+5
Malik Ellison

 

This was our Christmas day Team.

We played Chicago (who was at close to full strength) with these guys

Starters	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS	+/-
Bogdan Bogdanović	41:29	7	15	.467	4	9	.444	2	3	.667	0	4	4	3	0	1	0	2	20	-12
Cam Reddish	40:05	11	23	.478	8	13	.615	3	3	1.000	1	3	4	0	0	2	4	2	33	-6
Trae Young	39:47	8	23	.348	1	6	.167	12	12	1.000	0	1	1	9	0	0	2	1	29	-14
Chaundee Brown Jr.	30:18	1	7	.143	0	3	.000	2	2	1.000	0	9	9	0	2	0	0	4	4	-11
Clint Capela	26:29	4	8	.500	0	0		0	2	.000	6	10	16	3	0	1	1	2	8	-13
Reserves	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS	+/-
Gorgui Dieng	21:31	5	7	.714	2	3	.667	0	0		3	2	5	3	0	1	1	0	12	+1
Skylar Mays	17:26	3	3	1.000	0	0		0	0		0	1	1	2	0	0	1	0	6	0
Malcolm Hill	14:33	0	0		0	0		4	4	1.000	1	2	3	0	1	0	0	2	4	+1
Lance Stephenson	4:11	1	1	1.000	0	0		0	0		0	1	1	1	0	0	1	1	2	-3
Cat Barber	4:11	0	2	.000	0	0		0	0		0	1	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	-3
Malik Ellison	Did Not Play

 

The next game against Chicago we had these guys.

Basic Box Score Stats
Starters	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS	+/-
Trae Young	33:18	10	23	.435	2	7	.286	4	4	1.000	0	3	3	11	0	0	7	1	26	-19
Chaundee Brown Jr.	31:56	5	12	.417	3	6	.500	3	4	.750	1	2	3	3	0	0	0	1	16	-16
Cam Reddish	31:16	5	14	.357	1	3	.333	3	4	.750	0	1	1	2	2	1	4	2	14	-22
Skylar Mays	30:38	3	8	.375	1	4	.250	0	0		0	3	3	3	0	0	0	1	7	-18
Clint Capela	29:32	7	14	.500	0	0		4	4	1.000	5	10	15	3	0	0	0	4	18	-15
Reserves	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS	+/-
Malcolm Hill	29:22	5	8	.625	3	5	.600	0	0		1	2	3	1	3	1	0	5	13	+4
Cameron Oliver	18:28	6	6	1.000	0	0		1	2	.500	2	2	4	1	0	1	0	1	13	+1
Wes Iwundu	16:05	2	3	.667	1	1	1.000	3	4	.750	0	2	2	0	1	0	0	1	8	-2
Lance Stephenson	12:41	1	2	.500	0	0		0	0		0	1	1	1	0	0	0	0	2	+8
Cat Barber	6:44	0	2	.000	0	0		0	4	.000	1	1	2	1	0	0	0	1	0	+9
Justin Tillman	Did Not Play
Chris Clemons	Did Not Play
Team Totals	240	44	92	.478	11	26	.423	18	26	.692	10	27	37	26	6	3	11	17	117

 

We started our year with PTL Like this:

Starters	MP	TS%	eFG%	3PAr	FTr	ORB%	DRB%	TRB%	AST%	STL%	BLK%	TOV%	USG%	ORtg	DRtg	BPM
Trae Young	37:24	.859	.788	.462	.577	3.4	9.2	6.4	68.6	0.0	0.0	10.9	42.5	164	144	24.3
Kevin Huerter	36:45	.563	.563	.500	.000	0.0	6.2	3.3	7.0	0.0	0.0	11.1	21.3	102	145	-10.2
Clint Capela	31:31	.902	1.000	.000	.500	12.0	29.0	20.9	4.6	0.0	0.0	0.0	16.8	183	138	4.8
Skylar Mays	21:47	.333	.333	.500	.000	0.0	10.5	5.5	10.1	4.5	0.0	14.3	14.0	76	133	-8.9
Timothé Luwawu-Cabarrot	18:30	.800	.800	.800	.000	0.0	6.2	3.2	12.9	2.6	0.0	28.6	16.4	111	138	-3.3
Reserves	MP	TS%	eFG%	3PAr	FTr	ORB%	DRB%	TRB%	AST%	STL%	BLK%	TOV%	USG%	ORtg	DRtg	BPM
Danilo Gallinari	34:39	.250	.250	.500	.000	7.3	29.7	19.0	12.6	0.0	0.0	12.5	20.0	73	138	-15.3
Delon Wright	32:23	.680	.600	1.000	.400	3.9	14.1	9.3	9.9	3.0	0.0	0.0	7.9	161	135	2.2
Onyeka Okongwu	16:29	1.031	1.000	.000	.667	15.3	0.0	7.3	0.0	3.0	6.1	0.0	10.2	218	135	3.2
Lou Williams	10:31	.000	.000	.667	.000	0.0	10.9	5.7	28.5	0.0	0.0	25.0	16.5	50	143	-21.1
Chaundee Brown Jr.	Did Not Play
Chris Clemons	Did Not Play
Cameron Oliver	Did Not Play
Sharife Cooper	Did Not Play
Team Totals	240	.665	.625	.466	.273	23.7	71.4	48.8	64.6	6.1	2.1	10.9	100.0	133.8	138

How about this lineup:

Starters	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS	+/-
Delon Wright	39:34	5	9	.556	0	2	.000	5	5	1.000	2	2	4	4	2	0	0	3	15	+9
Cam Reddish	36:50	7	19	.368	2	7	.286	2	2	1.000	0	2	2	3	1	1	1	1	18	-1
Timothé Luwawu-Cabarrot	36:15	4	9	.444	3	7	.429	3	5	.600	1	3	4	2	1	0	2	3	14	-2
Danilo Gallinari	27:25	4	9	.444	1	5	.200	7	7	1.000	1	2	3	0	1	0	2	0	16	+8
Clint Capela	26:11	5	9	.556	0	0		1	4	.250	3	11	14	2	1	2	1	3	11	+5
Reserves	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS	+/-
Kevin Huerter	32:49	10	18	.556	1	5	.200	4	7	.571	0	11	11	5	1	0	1	2	25	+14
Onyeka Okongwu	21:48	3	6	.500	0	0		0	0		2	5	7	2	1	2	2	2	6	0
Lou Williams	19:08	1	7	.143	1	4	.250	0	0		1	2	3	2	0	0	1	0	3	-3
Chaundee Brown Jr.	Did Not Play
Skylar Mays	Did Not Play
Chris Clemons	Did Not Play
Sharife Cooper	Did Not Play
Team Totals	240	39	86	.453	8	30	.267	22	30	.733	10	38	48	20	8	5	10	14	10

 

Shakes... You have seen the play of our bench while we have been healthy. 

What are we supposed to do with these G-Leaguers and some just 10 dayers?

TLC started several games.   He played 36 minutes?

Then when we did get guys back, they had to start off with limited minutes..

Tell me, could you point out Chris Clemons in a lineup?

[macdaddy]

3 minutes ago, shakes said:

ESPN Insider article from January 4.  Not sure when our Covid outbreak ended, but as of that date we were #8 in terms of most value lost behind Cleveland, Philly, Milwaukee, Minny, Chicago , Charlotte and Brooklyn.

 

No one lost more to Covid than Cleveland yet you don't hear their fans crying COVID COVID COVID from every rooftop in town like our fans.

I don't have insider but i found a reference to the article in a Boston pub.

Quote

Pelton published an article detailing the impact of players entering the league’s health and safety protocol because of COVID-19 cases or positive tests this season. For the second campaign in a row, Boston finds itself among the NBA’s top five teams affect by COVID-19. They happen to check in at fifth overall behind the Chicago Bulls, Philadelphia 76ers, Cleveland Cavaliers and Atlanta Hawks, in that order.

Now think to yourself which of those teams had games postponed because they were missing players for Covid?   Seems like all of them did.  all but 1.

I get your point but to say covid had no affect on our season is bunk. 

[JayBirdHawk]

10 minutes ago, shakes said:

ESPN Insider article from January 4.  Not sure when our Covid outbreak ended, but as of that date we were #8 in terms of most value lost behind Cleveland, Philly, Milwaukee, Minny, Chicago , Charlotte and Brooklyn.

 

No one lost more to Covid than Cleveland yet you don't hear their fans crying COVID COVID COVID from every rooftop in town like our fans.

December 19th was our 1st Covid case with Trae. I think it ended January 11th with Dieng as the last player to return, followed by coach Nate on January 12th. 

[Diesel]

This article was posted on Jan 6th.  

It shows that we were 3rd highest number of COVID protocol behind Indy and Washington. 

It doesn't show the # of injuries to key players during that same time.   We were most injured too. 

[shakes]

10 minutes ago, Diesel said:

Nawl..

OO didn't play until Jan.  

Hunter missed significant time. 

Look how significant their games have been to our success. 

I realize that some teams have missed their main starter like BKLN, PTL, and Memphis.  But how many teams have been missing major peices and their main starters and their coach?

 

This is what we played Philly with in December.

Starters	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS	+/-
Team Totals	240	37	82	.451	7	24	.292	17	19	.895	11	35	46	20	5	4	10	19
Onyeka Okongwu	34:02	6	10	.600	0	0		1	1	1.000	3	5	8	3	1	3	1	2	13	+6
Delon Wright	33:35	2	5	.400	1	2	.500	0	0		1	4	5	6	0	1	1	0	5	+8
Skylar Mays	33:28	6	11	.545	1	2	.500	1	1	1.000	4	7	11	3	1	0	1	0	14	+9
John Collins	30:42	7	11	.636	2	2	1.000	1	2	.500	0	5	5	1	1	0	2	5	17	+3
Cam Reddish	27:35	7	13	.538	0	3	.000	4	4	1.000	0	1	1	3	1	0	2	1	18	+13
Reserves	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS	+/-
Bogdan Bogdanović	27:50	4	17	.235	1	9	.111	6	7	.857	0	5	5	2	0	0	2	3	15	-3
Wes Iwundu	23:15	1	5	.200	0	0		0	0		2	3	5	0	0	0	1	2	2	-9
Gorgui Dieng	13:58	3	6	.500	2	5	.400	4	4	1.000	1	4	5	2	1	0	0	1	12	-4
Lance Stephenson	11:00	1	3	.333	0	1	.000	0	0		0	1	1	0	0	0	0	4	2	-7
Jalen Johnson	4:35	0	1	.000	0	0		0	0		0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	-6
Malcolm Hill	Did Not Play
Sharife Cooper	Did Not Play
Kevin Huerter	Did Not Play

Starters	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS	+/-
Bogdan Bogdanović	35:43	2	12	.167	2	8	.250	2	3	.667	0	5	5	4	1	0	2	1	8	-17
Cam Reddish	34:18	4	15	.267	1	8	.125	1	1	1.000	0	6	6	3	2	0	2	1	10	-18
Delon Wright	33:57	8	13	.615	4	5	.800	0	0		2	2	4	2	3	1	1	1	20	-18
John Collins	32:47	7	18	.389	3	5	.600	3	4	.750	2	6	8	3	0	2	1	2	20	-21
Clint Capela	27:46	2	7	.286	0	0		2	6	.333	4	5	9	1	0	2	1	3	6	-14
Reserves	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS	+/-
Skylar Mays	22:33	5	11	.455	1	6	.167	0	0		0	0	0	2	2	0	0	1	11	-2
Gorgui Dieng	20:14	2	6	.333	2	4	.500	0	0		0	4	4	5	0	0	1	1	6	0
Jalen Johnson	15:13	2	3	.667	0	1	.000	0	0		0	7	7	0	0	0	2	1	4	+7
Lance Stephenson	13:37	1	2	.500	0	1	.000	0	0		0	3	3	2	0	0	1	1	2	+3
Cat Barber	1:56	0	0		0	0		0	0		0	0	0	1	0	0	1	0	0	+5
Malcolm Hill	1:56	0	0		0	0		0	0		0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	+5
Malik Ellison

 

This was our Christmas day Team.

We played Chicago (who was at close to full strength) with these guys

Starters	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS	+/-
Bogdan Bogdanović	41:29	7	15	.467	4	9	.444	2	3	.667	0	4	4	3	0	1	0	2	20	-12
Cam Reddish	40:05	11	23	.478	8	13	.615	3	3	1.000	1	3	4	0	0	2	4	2	33	-6
Trae Young	39:47	8	23	.348	1	6	.167	12	12	1.000	0	1	1	9	0	0	2	1	29	-14
Chaundee Brown Jr.	30:18	1	7	.143	0	3	.000	2	2	1.000	0	9	9	0	2	0	0	4	4	-11
Clint Capela	26:29	4	8	.500	0	0		0	2	.000	6	10	16	3	0	1	1	2	8	-13
Reserves	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS	+/-
Gorgui Dieng	21:31	5	7	.714	2	3	.667	0	0		3	2	5	3	0	1	1	0	12	+1
Skylar Mays	17:26	3	3	1.000	0	0		0	0		0	1	1	2	0	0	1	0	6	0
Malcolm Hill	14:33	0	0		0	0		4	4	1.000	1	2	3	0	1	0	0	2	4	+1
Lance Stephenson	4:11	1	1	1.000	0	0		0	0		0	1	1	1	0	0	1	1	2	-3
Cat Barber	4:11	0	2	.000	0	0		0	0		0	1	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	-3
Malik Ellison	Did Not Play

 

The next game against Chicago we had these guys.

Basic Box Score Stats
Starters	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS	+/-
Team Totals	240	44	92	.478	11	26	.423	18	26	.692	10	27	37	26	6	3	11	17	117
Trae Young	33:18	10	23	.435	2	7	.286	4	4	1.000	0	3	3	11	0	0	7	1	26	-19
Chaundee Brown Jr.	31:56	5	12	.417	3	6	.500	3	4	.750	1	2	3	3	0	0	0	1	16	-16
Cam Reddish	31:16	5	14	.357	1	3	.333	3	4	.750	0	1	1	2	2	1	4	2	14	-22
Skylar Mays	30:38	3	8	.375	1	4	.250	0	0		0	3	3	3	0	0	0	1	7	-18
Clint Capela	29:32	7	14	.500	0	0		4	4	1.000	5	10	15	3	0	0	0	4	18	-15
Reserves	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS	+/-
Malcolm Hill	29:22	5	8	.625	3	5	.600	0	0		1	2	3	1	3	1	0	5	13	+4
Cameron Oliver	18:28	6	6	1.000	0	0		1	2	.500	2	2	4	1	0	1	0	1	13	+1
Wes Iwundu	16:05	2	3	.667	1	1	1.000	3	4	.750	0	2	2	0	1	0	0	1	8	-2
Lance Stephenson	12:41	1	2	.500	0	0		0	0		0	1	1	1	0	0	0	0	2	+8
Cat Barber	6:44	0	2	.000	0	0		0	4	.000	1	1	2	1	0	0	0	1	0	+9
Justin Tillman	Did Not Play
Chris Clemons	Did Not Play

 

We started our year with PTL Like this:

Starters	MP	TS%	eFG%	3PAr	FTr	ORB%	DRB%	TRB%	AST%	STL%	BLK%	TOV%	USG%	ORtg	DRtg	BPM
Team Totals	240	.665	.625	.466	.273	23.7	71.4	48.8	64.6	6.1	2.1	10.9	100.0	133.8	138
Trae Young	37:24	.859	.788	.462	.577	3.4	9.2	6.4	68.6	0.0	0.0	10.9	42.5	164	144	24.3
Kevin Huerter	36:45	.563	.563	.500	.000	0.0	6.2	3.3	7.0	0.0	0.0	11.1	21.3	102	145	-10.2
Clint Capela	31:31	.902	1.000	.000	.500	12.0	29.0	20.9	4.6	0.0	0.0	0.0	16.8	183	138	4.8
Skylar Mays	21:47	.333	.333	.500	.000	0.0	10.5	5.5	10.1	4.5	0.0	14.3	14.0	76	133	-8.9
Timothé Luwawu-Cabarrot	18:30	.800	.800	.800	.000	0.0	6.2	3.2	12.9	2.6	0.0	28.6	16.4	111	138	-3.3
Reserves	MP	TS%	eFG%	3PAr	FTr	ORB%	DRB%	TRB%	AST%	STL%	BLK%	TOV%	USG%	ORtg	DRtg	BPM
Danilo Gallinari	34:39	.250	.250	.500	.000	7.3	29.7	19.0	12.6	0.0	0.0	12.5	20.0	73	138	-15.3
Delon Wright	32:23	.680	.600	1.000	.400	3.9	14.1	9.3	9.9	3.0	0.0	0.0	7.9	161	135	2.2
Onyeka Okongwu	16:29	1.031	1.000	.000	.667	15.3	0.0	7.3	0.0	3.0	6.1	0.0	10.2	218	135	3.2
Lou Williams	10:31	.000	.000	.667	.000	0.0	10.9	5.7	28.5	0.0	0.0	25.0	16.5	50	143	-21.1
Chaundee Brown Jr.	Did Not Play
Chris Clemons	Did Not Play
Cameron Oliver	Did Not Play
Sharife Cooper	Did Not Play

How about this lineup:

Starters	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS	+/-
Team Totals	240	39	86	.453	8	30	.267	22	30	.733	10	38	48	20	8	5	10	14	10
Delon Wright	39:34	5	9	.556	0	2	.000	5	5	1.000	2	2	4	4	2	0	0	3	15	+9
Cam Reddish	36:50	7	19	.368	2	7	.286	2	2	1.000	0	2	2	3	1	1	1	1	18	-1
Timothé Luwawu-Cabarrot	36:15	4	9	.444	3	7	.429	3	5	.600	1	3	4	2	1	0	2	3	14	-2
Danilo Gallinari	27:25	4	9	.444	1	5	.200	7	7	1.000	1	2	3	0	1	0	2	0	16	+8
Clint Capela	26:11	5	9	.556	0	0		1	4	.250	3	11	14	2	1	2	1	3	11	+5
Reserves	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS	+/-
Kevin Huerter	32:49	10	18	.556	1	5	.200	4	7	.571	0	11	11	5	1	0	1	2	25	+14
Onyeka Okongwu	21:48	3	6	.500	0	0		0	0		2	5	7	2	1	2	2	2	6	0
Lou Williams	19:08	1	7	.143	1	4	.250	0	0		1	2	3	2	0	0	1	0	3	-3
Chaundee Brown Jr.	Did Not Play
Skylar Mays	Did Not Play
Chris Clemons	Did Not Play
Sharife Cooper	Did Not Play

 

Shakes... You have seen the play of our bench while we have been healthy. 

What are we supposed to do with these G-Leaguers and some just 10 dayers?

TLC started several games.   He played 36 minutes?

Then when we did get guys back, they had to start off with limited minutes..

Tell me, could you point out Chris Clemons in a lineup?

Considering I had the pride of the Campbell Camels on my college basketball fantasy team  a few years ago you better believe I can point Chris Clemons out in a lineup.  Pro tip:  he's the short guy.

 

All you're doing is pointing out the games where Covid hit us hard, but you're not doing the same thing for the other teams in the league.  and injuries are the same deal.  Other teams have had them just as bad if not worse.

 

Just look at Chicago.  Best record in the East and they haven't even had their starting PF the entire season.  Plus they got destroyed by Covid and they have had other injuries as well to key all star players.     The only advantage they had over us is they had a couple games postponed whereas the league made us play when we had just as many guys out.   

So posting the box scores from a few Hawks games doesn't disprove anything I said unless you are going to show me how all those other teams I listed weren't really affected by Covid as much as ESPN is saying they were.

 

 

[shakes]

10 minutes ago, Diesel said:

This a

11 minutes ago, Diesel said:

This article was posted on Jan 6th.  

It shows that we were 3rd highest number of COVID protocol behind Indy and Washington. 

It doesn't show the # of injuries to key players during that same time.   We were most injured too. 

 

Cmon, that's ridiculous thing to post.   For one, it only accounts for who is out on that exact date.  And it doesn't account for the level of player.  So it's quite disingenuous to say we top that list when 3 of the 5 players listed are guys who aren't even in the rotation.  Be better Diesel.

 

Now please post a legit list of injuires for all teams so we can see just how accurate your claim that we were the most injured team as well?