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12 minutes ago, Sothron said:

So now I can talk a bit more freely...

In the insider only conversation I call your attention to this posted June 9th well before the draft and rumors about Murray:

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Reached out after my last post. All he can say is we have a deal on the table for an All Star player but he won't say who it is. I asked him was it Ben Simmons and he paused and said I can't say any more and ended the talk. 

 

I don't want to go through all the things that @NBASupesand @thecampster and myself broke on here over just this season. But we have kept you guys and gal well in the loop before any of this broke on national news.  I only mention this because we have some people who feel the need to interrupt threads with their doubts or trying to call us out for one reason or the other. 

With that off my chest...

Ressler is far more hands on that he lets on. I can show it in one spot here from the insider only conversation:

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Replied: April 29

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I'm hearing that Travis is using Trae to talk to guys

 

So Trae went to bat for Ressler and Travis to go talk to guys. Trae flat out recruited Murray to come play in Atlanta and to tell SAS he wanted to come to Atlanta. When Trae tweeted earlier this month that "this is the summer that changes everything" he knew then that Murray was coming to Atlanta.

What was the hold up in the trade? Pops. He wanted OO included in the deal. And once that wasn't going to happen he wanted 4 firsts. Travis held the line. The back and forth was over pick protection and pick swaps. SAS wanted 4 firsts and 2 pick swaps once we made it clear OO was off the table. The compromise was the deal you all saw. 

There are more moves coming. I have two sources and my old source that is now my "new" source again is a more generic NBA source. This source told me that the feeling around the NBA is you NEVER trade two firsts with no protection unless you get an All NBA player back. And this source said we overpaid for Murray but felt it was a necessary cost.

I did get an update on Capela. He has went from "100% gone" to "most likely to be gone" only from Trae's campaign to keep him AND that Trae delivered to Ressler/Travis on delivering Murray. Both Ayton and Gobert are still options. The feedback they got from Gobert was worse than Ayton. Sources stopped short of calling him a team cancer but it wasn't good. 

Our FO and owner are doing backflips over getting Murray. The feeling is even if we did nothing else (we will, don't freak out) the team right now with Murray just put us into a 50+ win territory.  The idea is to split ballhandling with Trae/Murray and to rotate minutes to we have at least one of them on the court 48 minutes a game. It means our team will always have an elite playmaker at all times.

Ressler, Travis and some of the coaching staff and players are here on the Squawk. Some are lurkers and some are members. Just letting you all know. They DO pay attention to what we say. I was told that my post about "This is the most disappointing season in Hawks history" in the last season and everyone's responses was circulated around by Ressler. He was legit furious about the team's play and he has become more hands on ever since then. Ressler literally mandated this team get substantially better before next season. He told Travis to bring in at least one All Star. 

So we do have a team that does listen to its real fans. They don't care about other sites but they care about the Squawk. It is another reason why the insiders here have to be careful in what we post because the Hawks ARE trying to found out who our sources are and put a stop to the leaks. 

I think we should open a new thread and close this one to talk about free agency and summer moves. 

To those players/coaches/etc that are lurking....I'm sure Dr.Oz, Jeff and co. Are happy 🙂

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So now I can talk a bit more freely... In the insider only conversation I call your attention to this posted June 9th well before the draft and rumors about Murray:  Sothron 14,789 Repl

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This was done to make another move possible. All I can say.

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1 minute ago, theheroatl said:

Not sure about informer but I am Tony so watch what you say

I'm lookin at you with real squinty eyes rn.

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Haha, I was hoping somebody picked up what I was puttin down.

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23 minutes ago, Sothron said:

So now I can talk a bit more freely...

In the insider only conversation I call your attention to this posted June 9th well before the draft and rumors about Murray:

 Sothron 14,789

Replied: June 9

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Reached out after my last post. All he can say is we have a deal on the table for an All Star player but he won't say who it is. I asked him was it Ben Simmons and he paused and said I can't say any more and ended the talk. 

 

I don't want to go through all the things that @NBASupesand @thecampster and myself broke on here over just this season. But we have kept you guys and gal well in the loop before any of this broke on national news.  I only mention this because we have some people who feel the need to interrupt threads with their doubts or trying to call us out for one reason or the other. 

With that off my chest...

Ressler is far more hands on that he lets on. I can show it in one spot here from the insider only conversation:

 Sothron 14,789

Replied: April 29

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I'm hearing that Travis is using Trae to talk to guys

 

So Trae went to bat for Ressler and Travis to go talk to guys. Trae flat out recruited Murray to come play in Atlanta and to tell SAS he wanted to come to Atlanta. When Trae tweeted earlier this month that "this is the summer that changes everything" he knew then that Murray was coming to Atlanta.

What was the hold up in the trade? Pops. He wanted OO included in the deal. And once that wasn't going to happen he wanted 4 firsts. Travis held the line. The back and forth was over pick protection and pick swaps. SAS wanted 4 firsts and 2 pick swaps once we made it clear OO was off the table. The compromise was the deal you all saw. 

There are more moves coming. I have two sources and my old source that is now my "new" source again is a more generic NBA source. This source told me that the feeling around the NBA is you NEVER trade two firsts with no protection unless you get an All NBA player back. And this source said we overpaid for Murray but felt it was a necessary cost.

I did get an update on Capela. He has went from "100% gone" to "most likely to be gone" only from Trae's campaign to keep him AND that Trae delivered to Ressler/Travis on delivering Murray. Both Ayton and Gobert are still options. The feedback they got from Gobert was worse than Ayton. Sources stopped short of calling him a team cancer but it wasn't good. 

Our FO and owner are doing backflips over getting Murray. The feeling is even if we did nothing else (we will, don't freak out) the team right now with Murray just put us into a 50+ win territory.  The idea is to split ballhandling with Trae/Murray and to rotate minutes to we have at least one of them on the court 48 minutes a game. It means our team will always have an elite playmaker at all times.

Ressler, Travis and some of the coaching staff and players are here on the Squawk. Some are lurkers and some are members. Just letting you all know. They DO pay attention to what we say. I was told that my post about "This is the most disappointing season in Hawks history" in the last season and everyone's responses was circulated around by Ressler. He was legit furious about the team's play and he has become more hands on ever since then. Ressler literally mandated this team get substantially better before next season. He told Travis to bring in at least one All Star. 

So we do have a team that does listen to its real fans. They don't care about other sites but they care about the Squawk. It is another reason why the insiders here have to be careful in what we post because the Hawks ARE trying to found out who our sources are and put a stop to the leaks. 

I think we should open a new thread and close this one to talk about free agency and summer moves. 

So there’s no chance we keep Collins?    

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7 minutes ago, theheroatl said:

 

 

Who would we want from those teams that's a win now player?

Heat: Bam (Not happening, and other heat players aren't worth john imo)

Kings: Kings want Barnes probably, I'd only want Sabonis for John

Jazz: ???

I hope we don't make some silly trade of John just for the sake of making one. I really don't know what a good return player for him would be.

Perhaps Harrison Barnes and the Kings pick next year? The pick would probably be pretty high knowing that franchise... and we'd have money to spend. 

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If Gobert is a locker room problem then I don’t want him here.  
 

We should bring back Solo Hill … he was invaluable for the young guys.

I actually thought the loss of Solo had a big detrimental impact on the team last year. Miss his no nonsense toughness. 

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2 minutes ago, capstone21 said:

If Gobert is a locker room problem then I don’t want him here.  
 

We should bring back Solo Hill … he was invaluable for the young guys.

This is big. It wasn’t clear if Mitchell or Gobert was the root problem. If it IS Gobert then I agree

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4 minutes ago, DrReality said:

So there’s no chance we keep Collins?    

Never said that. Most of the FO want to keep him. JC himself is getting tired of being dangled in trade rumors for 2 years now. 

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