Popular Post RedDawg#8 Posted June 23, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 23, 2023 Let’s see, Kobe is a hard nosed worker praised for his effort and intensity in workouts. He is a defensive minded guard who can defend the point of attack. He has the size and versatility to play alongside a ball dominant PG or next to a scoring guard by sharing ball handling responsibility. Sounds like a great fit for us. Doesn’t solve all of our needs but definitely helps us in areas we are weak. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted June 23, 2023 Moderators Report Share Posted June 23, 2023 So if KB is DM 2.0 is this is preparing to be without DM? Better be by trade considering what we gave up to get Dejointe. Drafting insurance for a guy in his mid-20s who you just gave up a ton to acquire last summer just seems very strange without other moves to follow. Feels like a team that is insecure about keeping DM (which would be a harsh condemnation of that trade) or planning to deal him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Final_quest Posted June 23, 2023 Report Share Posted June 23, 2023 Just now, RedDawg#8 said: Let’s see, Kobe is a hard nosed worker praised for his effort and intensity in workouts. He is a defensive minded guard who can defend the point of attack. He has the size and versatility to play alongside a ball dominant PG or next to a scoring guard by sharing ball handling responsibility. Sounds like a great fit for us. Doesn’t solve all of our needs but definitely helps us in areas we are weak. Well said. I understand how he fills some needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted June 23, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 23, 2023 18 minutes ago, Peoriabird said: 5. Krejci 6. Martin 16 minutes ago, NBASupes said: Garrison Matthews All unguaranteed contracts totalling $5.2 million. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warcore Posted June 23, 2023 Report Share Posted June 23, 2023 I hope these two nets picks are being traded to us for Bufkin 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted June 23, 2023 Report Share Posted June 23, 2023 8 minutes ago, AHF said: So if KB is DM 2.0 is this is preparing to be without DM? Better be by trade considering what we gave up to get Dejointe. Drafting insurance for a guy in his mid-20s who you just gave up a ton to acquire last summer just seems very strange without other moves to follow. Feels like a team that is insecure about keeping DM (which would be a harsh condemnation of that trade) or planning to deal him. Tough decisions coming next summer, that's for sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted June 23, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 23, 2023 I think he will be a good player but good lord...Unless he does become a combo guard allowing us to trade Murray so Aj and Bogie can see the court, I think it is total redundancy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted June 23, 2023 Moderators Report Share Posted June 23, 2023 Just now, Peoriabird said: I think he will be a good player but good lord...Unless he does become a combo guard allowing us to trade Murray so Aj and Bogie can see the court, I think it is total redundancy! It is a very strange pick to me. Doubly so if we came in targeting him as @Sothron mentioned. Why trade a ton for a young guy and then use the best pick you’ve had in several years on his clone. He even has DM’s suspect 3pt shot I was sorry to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted June 23, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 23, 2023 1 minute ago, AHF said: It is a very strange pick to me. Doubly so if we came in targeting him as @Sothron mentioned. Why trade a ton for a young guy and then use the best pick you’ve had in several years on his clone. He even has DM’s suspect 3pt shot I was sorry to see. He will become a better shooter with time. He is an 85% shooter from the ft line. we just need to focus on moving Murray before his value tanks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted June 23, 2023 Report Share Posted June 23, 2023 20 minutes ago, RedDawg#8 said: So we going to act like Bey ain't a big wing? Not to mention JJ can guard the undersized 4’s who play on the perimeter. I know I know Im a casual who doesn’t understand the modern game. Lol Bey can't defend 2 and 3 and below average defending big wings and 4s. JJ defensively can defend 3s and big wings but he can't play on the perimeter offensively unless he's next to someone like Bey who draws a lot of attention and he can focus on attacking bad closeouts. None are big wings, just forwards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packfill Posted June 23, 2023 Report Share Posted June 23, 2023 1 minute ago, AHF said: It is a very strange pick to me. Doubly so if we came in targeting him as @Sothron mentioned. Why trade a ton for a young guy and then use the best pick you’ve had in several years on his clone. He even has DM’s suspect 3pt shot I was sorry to see. In fairness, just about anyone they could have taken at 15 is not going to see rotation minutes as a rookie given the current line-up. Not sure I see a starter here even in the long term but he could be a good third guard in a couple years. Still, I for sure would have taken Whitmore there. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted June 23, 2023 Moderators Report Share Posted June 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Peoriabird said: He will become a better shooter with time. He is an 85% shooter from the ft line. we just need to focus on moving Murray before his value tanks I hope so. Being unable to hit 36% on college 3’s doesn’t bode well for the immediate future. (32.5% in college; 35.5% last year) If he is going to play next to DM, he needs to be able to stroke the 3. If he is going to play next to Trae, he needs to be able to defend wings. I’m not really expecting either of those next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted June 23, 2023 Moderators Report Share Posted June 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Packfill said: In fairness, just about anyone they could have taken at 15 is not going to see rotation minutes as a rookie given the current line-up. Not sure I see a starter here even in the long term but he could be a good third guard in a couple years. Still, I for sure would have taken Whitmore there. If we were targeting him coming into the draft, that means taking him over some good players who seem like more natural fits for this roster’s needs. I say that assuming the plan is to keep DM but it makes perfect sense if we are going to shop DM for another position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShooterSays Posted June 23, 2023 Report Share Posted June 23, 2023 Not like any rookie we picked at 15 had a clear path to meaningful minutes anyways. We literally have a starter and established backup for every spot as the roster is now. Might as well take the perimeter defender who can play on/off ball. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted June 23, 2023 Report Share Posted June 23, 2023 8 minutes ago, AHF said: It is a very strange pick to me. Doubly so if we came in targeting him as @Sothron mentioned. Why trade a ton for a young guy and then use the best pick you’ve had in several years on his clone. He even has DM’s suspect 3pt shot I was sorry to see. The issue is probably money. Atlanta wants to keep DM, but he could command a max contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h4wkfan Posted June 23, 2023 Report Share Posted June 23, 2023 Time for bed. Take Chris Castleton at 46 and call it a day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted June 23, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 23, 2023 1 minute ago, bleachkit said: The issue is probably money. Atlanta wants to keep DM, but he could command a max contract. I hope we don't wait to trade him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NekiEcko Posted June 23, 2023 Report Share Posted June 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Peoriabird said: I hope we don't wait to trade him. They are going to wait and give him the max anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted June 23, 2023 Moderators Report Share Posted June 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, bleachkit said: The issue is probably money. Atlanta wants to keep DM, but he could command a max contract. 1 minute ago, Peoriabird said: I hope we don't wait to trade him. If we aren’t going to resign him, Peo is 100% right. Trade him at the first opportunity for solid value and chalk the trade up as a failure. You don’t trade a bunch of picks for a 25 year old to watch him walk in free agency. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted June 23, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 23, 2023 21 minutes ago, bleachkit said: Tough decisions coming next summer, that's for sure. The Hawks would be stupid to wait until next summer to make a decision on DM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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