Spud2nique Posted May 2 Report Share Posted May 2 6 hours ago, Sothron said: This is the first time the Hawks FO has seriously considered trading Trae. No. They haven’t and won’t entertain it. That’s what I heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted May 2 Report Share Posted May 2 57 minutes ago, Mikey said: Not the first time technically. Schlenk was ready to trade him before they traded for Dejounte. Ownership was not on board Absolutely wrong, Schlenk wasn’t going to trade Trae. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted May 2 Report Share Posted May 2 7 minutes ago, Mikey said: He's not the best pg lol. Uh huh, who is? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted May 2 Report Share Posted May 2 6 minutes ago, Spud2nique said: Uh huh, who is? The only one close to Trae is Ja Morant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted May 2 Moderators Report Share Posted May 2 17 minutes ago, Mikey said: He's not the best pg lol. I said arguably because it all depends on what you value in a PG. But for me he's the second best passer in the league and a very good scorer. So i don't know who you think is better on the offensive end. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey Posted May 2 Report Share Posted May 2 10 minutes ago, KB21 said: The only one close to Trae is Ja Morant. ??? this is a joke right Steph, Luka, SGA, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted May 2 Report Share Posted May 2 6 minutes ago, macdaddy said: second best passer in the league I have him at #1, Jokic at 2. Pure passing. Raw. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted May 2 Report Share Posted May 2 Just now, Mikey said: ??? this is a joke right Steph, Luka, SGA, Shooting guard, small forward.. SGA… ok he’s legit. Size and play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted May 2 Moderators Report Share Posted May 2 Just now, Mikey said: ??? this is a joke right Steph, Luka, SGA, To me Steph ain't a PG and Luka isn't as good of a passer. He's just a great scoring PG a la prime Harden. SGA may be there. We'll see. I like my PG to average more than 6 assists. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Mule Posted May 2 Report Share Posted May 2 44 minutes ago, KB21 said: This is a case of you don't know what you have until it's gone. There are a lot of Hawks fans who have no idea that Trae Young is the best point guard in the NBA. When he's gone, you will realize that. While this may be true that he's the very best offensive PG in the entire NBA it's also true that, with the players that Atlanta has at present time we're a very solid .500 team. Several Hawk players need to step up their game if they are to improve greatly. Injuries did mess up everything for Atlanta last season. Shows us with several weak spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Mule Posted May 2 Report Share Posted May 2 Supes and KB21 agree that the Hawks need more size. They disagree on who is the player needed. I agree with both of them. Atlanta needs some bigger, meaner and more athletic front court players. I don't care which one is correct on this, just please draft someone who can actually play some. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hylndr11 Posted May 2 Report Share Posted May 2 (edited) 17 hours ago, Jody23 said: This, this, this. Which is why I fear Trae will ask for a trade at some point this offseason. If he does, I won't blame him. He gets all the heat and criticism nationally, while Ressler and company are the real issue with why the team can't win. Y'all need to pick one. It's the team giving Trae what he wants but none of it is Traes fault. Or weeeelll Trae wanted this guy and we got him but then e erything they did was bad. It's all connected ppl all of this stems from letting a younger player dictate your direction, and when a fo guy finally say nah we ain't doing that that person gets ousted. Could we spend more money yes but who are we getting NBA isn't a grocery store where u can go just build teams. And Trae knows that which is why he needs to say if he wants to go now because we actually may be forced to do more of a rebuild than a retool here, weren't in a great position now. Edited May 2 by hylndr11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Popular Post Jody23 Posted May 2 Premium Member Popular Post Report Share Posted May 2 3 minutes ago, hylndr11 said: Y'all need to pick one. It's the team giving Trae what he wants but none of it is Traes fault. Or weeeelll Trae wanted this guy and we got him but then e erything they did was bad. It's all connected ppl all of this stems from letting a younger player dictate your direction, and when a fo guy finally say nah we ain't doing that that person gets ousted. Could we spend more money yes but who are we getting NBA isn't a grocery store where u can go just build teams. And Trae knows that which is why he needs to say if he wants to go now because we actually may be forced to do more of a rebuild than a retool here, weren't in a great position now. I disagree with all of this. It doesn't really matter who Trae said he wanted. At the end of the day, that's not his responsibility. That's not his job. That's on ownership and management. It's their job to build a competent team and they have yet to do that, period. So, let me be clear. The mess the Hawks find themselves in is not on Trae although the talking heads have pushed that narrative for obvious reasons. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Popular Post AHF Posted May 2 Author Moderators Popular Post Report Share Posted May 2 2 minutes ago, Jody23 said: I disagree with all of this. It doesn't really matter who Trae said he wanted. At the end of the day, that's not his responsibility. That's not his job. That's on ownership and management. It's their job to build a competent team and they have yet to do that, period. So, let me be clear. The mess the Hawks find themselves in is not on Trae although the talking heads have pushed that narrative for obvious reasons. Ownership sets the budget and owns that decision. Management makes personnel decisions and owns them. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JeffS17 Posted May 2 Premium Member Report Share Posted May 2 So just to be clear, you guys are all saying Trae will leave unless he gets what he wants, and then when he gets what he wants, it's ownership/front office fault? That's what already happened with the DJ trade. Some real astounding mental gymnastics happening here.... yall both blame the front office for not making Trae happy and also blaming them when they make a move to make Trae happy lmao. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kg01 Posted May 2 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 2 1 hour ago, Jody23 said: I disagree with all of this. It doesn't really matter who Trae said he wanted. At the end of the day, that's not his responsibility. That's not his job. That's on ownership and management. It's their job to build a competent team and they have yet to do that, period. So, let me be clear. The mess the Hawks find themselves in is not on Trae although the talking heads have pushed that narrative for obvious reasons. All this. And do people not understand the roster issue doesn't really even relate to Murray being here? 3 minutes ago, JeffS17 said: So just to be clear, you guys are all saying Trae will leave unless he gets what he wants, and then when he gets what he wants, it's ownership/front office fault? That's what already happened with the DJ trade. Some real astounding mental gymnastics happening here.... yall both blame the front office for not making Trae happy and also blaming them when they make a move to make Trae happy lmao. Literally nobody is saying that other than anti-Trae folk. Because they need or want it to be true to fuel themselves I guess. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Popular Post macdaddy Posted May 2 Moderators Popular Post Report Share Posted May 2 6 minutes ago, JeffS17 said: So just to be clear, you guys are all saying Trae will leave unless he gets what he wants, and then when he gets what he wants, it's ownership/front office fault? That's what already happened with the DJ trade. Some real astounding mental gymnastics happening here.... yall both blame the front office for not making Trae happy and also blaming them when they make a move to make Trae happy lmao. Not sure where you got that. It was pretty clear what Trae said. He's not interested in being on a rebuilding team and waiting 2-4 years to be competitive. Not sure how that is bad or any different than every other really good player in this league. Org has a decision to make. Are we actually going to field a playoff cailibre roster or tear it down. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JeffS17 Posted May 2 Premium Member Report Share Posted May 2 2 minutes ago, kg01 said: All this. And do people not understand the roster issue doesn't really even relate to Murray being here? Literally nobody is saying that other than anti-Trae folk. Because they need or want it to be true to fuel themselves I guess. This comment absolves Trae of any responsibility. But anyone that understands power dynamics and nuance understands he has influence and should be at least partially accountable. If Trae wants to leave as soon as things get tough, imo he should just leave. I'd rather not have a diva/quitter on the team eroding the lock room culture. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted May 2 Premium Member Report Share Posted May 2 12 minutes ago, JeffS17 said: So just to be clear, you guys are all saying Trae will leave unless he gets what he wants, and then when he gets what he wants, it's ownership/front office fault? That's what already happened with the DJ trade. Some real astounding mental gymnastics happening here.... yall both blame the front office for not making Trae happy and also blaming them when they make a move to make Trae happy lmao. Aside from what Trae may want or asked for...Do you think that ownership and front office have done the best possible job in putting a product on the floor, in totality, that's competitive to be top 6 in the East (I added this since they kept saying to avoid the playin this year) based on all of their available resources? A simple Yes or No please. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Popular Post JeffS17 Posted May 2 Premium Member Popular Post Report Share Posted May 2 1 minute ago, JayBirdHawk said: Aside from what Trae may want or asked for...Do you think that ownership and front office has done the best possible job in putting a product on the floor, in totality, that's competitive to be top 6 in the East (I added this since they kept saying to avoid the playin this year) based on all of their available resources? A simple Yes or No please. Yes 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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