Dallas and Cleveland 1st round picks

[AHF]

2 hours ago, Brotha2ThaNite said:

All these picks owed... I'm lost! Who all owe us picks? How many teams and what year? Could someone please break them all down. 

Somebody did a breakdown recently but the key ones for the near term:

2019 first round draft pick from Cleveland
Cleveland's 1st round pick to Atlanta protected for selections 1-10 in 2019 and 1-10 in 2020; if Cleveland has not conveyed a 1st round pick to Atlanta by 2020, then Cleveland will instead convey its 2021 2nd round pick and 2022 2nd round pick to Atlanta 

2019 first round draft pick from Dallas
Dallas' 1st round pick to Atlanta protected for selections 1-5 in 2019, 1-5 in 2020, 1-3 in 2021 and 1-3 in 2022 and unprotected in 2023 

 

[JayBirdHawk]

2 hours ago, Brotha2ThaNite said:

All these picks owed... I'm lost! Who all owe us picks? How many teams and what year? Could someone please break them all down. 

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Here is the current draft pick summary for the next seven years:

2019
First round -Own
Cleveland (if 11-30)
Dallas (if 6-30)
Second round - Own or to Washington (if 56-60)
Minnesota or Los Angeles Lakers via Cleveland (less favorable)
Charlotte

2020
First round - Own
Cleveland (11-30 if not already settled)
Dallas (6-30 if not already settled)
Second round - Own

2021
First round - Own
Dallas (4-30 if not already settled)
Second round - Own
Cleveland (if first rounder not conveyed)

2022
First round - Own
Dallas (4-30 if not already settled)
Oklahoma City (if 15-30)
Second round - Own
Cleveland (if first rounder not conveyed)

2023
First round - Own
Dallas (if not already settled)
Second round - Own
Charlotte
Right to swap Brooklyn for less favorable of Own and Charlote

2024
First round - Own
Second round - Own
Oklahoma City (if first round not conveyed)

2025
First round- Own
Second round - Own
Brooklyn
Oklahoma City (if first round not conveyed)

 

[Brotha2ThaNite]

Dang! That is a lot lol

[Brotha2ThaNite]

I have a bad feeling that Cleveland might have a fire sale. I hope they start winning.

[bleachkit]

6 minutes ago, Brotha2ThaNite said:

I have a bad feeling that Cleveland might have a fire sale. I hope they start winning.

We got fleeced on the Korver trade. There was never a chance we were getting a first from a post-LeBron Cleveland with a top 10 protection. Bud should have demanded no greater than top 5 protected or no deal.

[hazer]

17 minutes ago, Brotha2ThaNite said:

I have a bad feeling that Cleveland might have a fire sale. I hope they start winning.

 

2 minutes ago, bleachkit said:

We got fleeced on the Korver trade. There was never a chance we were getting a first from a post-LeBron Cleveland with a top 10 protection. Bud should have demanded no greater than top 5 protected or no deal.

Like @JayBirdHawk reminded me: if it doesn’t convey this year (fat chance), it kicks down the road to next year. So there’s hope. Tiny, desperate, unlikely hope ??

[bleachkit]

1 minute ago, hazer said:

 

Like @JayBirdHawk reminded me: if it doesn’t convey this year (fat chance), it kicks down the road to next year. So there’s hope. Tiny, desperate, unlikely hope ??

Cleveland will probably get a number 1 pick the next two years. They always get lucky with the ping pong balls.

[Spud2nique]

My avatar is in deep jeopardy.. ??‍♂️

[Royjr9]

Didn’t know where to post this but our old buddy Larry drew will be roaming the sidelines again as Cleveland has fired lue.

[sturt]

This is a bookmark on my browser... I recommend it.

 

https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/team

 

 

 

 

[sturt]

On 10/27/2018 at 7:44 AM, Brotha2ThaNite said:

I have a bad feeling that Cleveland might have a fire sale. I hope they start winning.

Lue's gone, so here we go.... let's see if they bring-in a "developmental" coach...

Me, I have a nauseous feeling.

 

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2018/10/cavaliers-fire-tyronn-lue.html

[benhillboy]

Drew is far better at X & O and defense.  They should win at a .325 clip now instead of .000.

[bleachkit]

The Cavs will win around 25 or so games and get a top 5 pick. Sorry people. 

[AHawks89]

I'm pretty sure the Cavs plan on tanking this season. You know they're going to tank hard and not want to give up their pick. 

[GameTime]

Honestly Larry Drew owes us this pick after screwing us out of Giannis.

[AHF]

This is not a big shock.  Lue never showed much as Cavs coach.  Always was just helping manage LeBron more than driving the bus in Cleveland.  

[kg01]

For the love o ....

 

[Brotha2ThaNite]

59 minutes ago, kg01 said:

For the love o ....

 

 Here we go with the BS

[AHF]

Wasn't a big fan of the Cleveland trade when it happened for a couple of reasons:

• We helped Cleveland without extracting a premium on the trade which is distasteful.
• We made the trade 6 weeks prior to the trade deadline meaning it was largely only a 1 team market.  CLE had to make a move because of injuries.  The rest of the trade market and the league had yet to heat up.
• The protection on the pick didn't us the option to pick between 2019 and 2020 and there was a high risk of either (a) Cleveland keeping LeBron and being pretty great this year or (b) Cleveland losing LeBron and entering tank mode.

Sad to see this play out like this but I'm hoping Cleveland gets some pride and that their players start playing for their next contract and win enough games to convey the pick Bobby Sura style.

[hazer]

1 hour ago, kg01 said:

For the love o ....