Ask Supes

[kg01]

10 hours ago, Sothron said:

Could we not talk about He Who Trolls Every Thread? I don't want him to come back and ruin yet another offseason and spill into next season.

Aye, why you gotta talk about me like .... ohhh, you meant .. nevermind. 

21 minutes ago, thecampster said:

A smidge late but this is that trickle of information we were expecting last week. Looks like there is still confusion over when and how to announce things. Make no mistake, there has been stuff already done in the background. Some of it was in place 2 weeks ago.

You mean like how the squawk 'allegedly' lost a couple free agents to RGM but it hasn't been announced yet? 

Ah man, I'm probably gonna get yelled at.

[JayBirdHawk]

@NBASupes  You still can't be planning your daughter's birthday?  She's gonna be 7...Five years from now when she's 12 she won't remember all the stuff  (I know, mine is 12 now) you did for her she'll just be asking you for the next new thing . ...Daddy, can I please, please, please have....

Wrap it up and get back to your real job.....#AskSupes. We are all impatiently waiting for your next blockbuster update.  It better be a doozy.  Also throw in some draft stuff - who have the Hawks worked out/interviewed? Who's their number one target at #6.

[NBASupes]

7 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

@NBASupes  You still can't be planning your daughter's birthday?  She's gonna be 7...Five years from now when she's 12 she won't remember all the stuff  (I know, mine is 12 now) you did for her she'll just be asking you for the next new thing . ...Daddy, can I please, please, please have....

Wrap it up and get back to your real job.....#AskSupes. We are all impatiently waiting for your next blockbuster update.  It better be a doozy.  Also throw in some draft stuff - who have the Hawks worked out/interviewed? Who's their number one target at #6.

She's 7! 

[JayBirdHawk]

Just now, NBASupes said:

She's 7! 

so she's gonna be 8? same thing by 12 she won't remember 

[Gray Mule]

@NBASupes - - Life is great when you are 7 !  Enjoy it all now...  They all grow up too fast.

JAYBIRDHAWK :  You do know that, once they become a teen ager, they automatically know everything!  You have 10 months to prepare!

Supes:  Any news worth sharing??

[NBASupes]

25 minutes ago, Gray Mule said:

@NBASupes - - Life is great when you are 7 !  Enjoy it all now...  They all grow up too fast.

JAYBIRDHAWK :  You do know that, once they become a teen ager, they automatically know everything!  You have 10 months to prepare!

Supes:  Any news worth sharing??

Not yet, we talked but he didn't have anything. He couldn't even confirm the Kenny Smith who said players have deals done already but if he could, that agent could be in trouble.

[kg01]

51 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

She's 7! 

Ha, enjoy these years.  Kg02 is 13 and has started looking at cars.  Says she's deciding between a Camaro or a Porsche. 

And I still haven't received my invitation to the shindig.  I assume that's a clerical oversight so I'll just show up with my dancing shoes on.

[thecampster]

https://nba.nbcsports.com/2020/10/26/rumor-nba-free-agents-already-agreeing-to-deals/?partner=Yahoo

 

Okay there is the preview article. Should have been out last week.  Supes, call your boy. See if there's a bit of fire under the smoke.   

[NBASupes]

13 minutes ago, thecampster said:

https://nba.nbcsports.com/2020/10/26/rumor-nba-free-agents-already-agreeing-to-deals/?partner=Yahoo

 

Okay there is the preview article. Should have been out last week.  Supes, call your boy. See if there's a bit of fire under the smoke.   

I literally spoke to him about this yesterday. He had nothing for me unless he's hiding stuff and we went through that already, don't hide, just tell me you can't share this publicly. It's strange, he was getting a daily stream of updates too. 

[bird_dirt]

9 minutes ago, thecampster said:

https://nba.nbcsports.com/2020/10/26/rumor-nba-free-agents-already-agreeing-to-deals/?partner=Yahoo

 

Okay there is the preview article. Should have been out last week.  Supes, call your boy. See if there's a bit of fire under the smoke.   

I'd be more shocked if they weren't pre-negotiating.

[NBASupes]

He clearly has something today. I know just from all of the reporting, there is a lot of asking and talking going on around him. The issue is, he doesn't like to share fluff like my Bay Area guy who is a loving of fluff. 

[bleachkit]

I'm really not interested in trading #6 unless it's for a really good young player. 

[NBASupes]

We are talking right now. Yeah, he has a lot. Too much in fact. Atlanta is moving on up from his conversations. 

[kg01]

19 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

We are talking right now. Yeah, he has a lot. Too much in fact. Atlanta is moving on up from his conversations. 

"Movin' on up", huh?  Jeffersons reference ... George Jefferson ... Paul George?  Hmm.  Can't fool me, soupey.

[NBASupes]

He held on to some information wanting confirmation. Here's what he got: 

 

NBA Draft Talks:

 

Min - MIN/ATL has been in talks for the #1 overall pick. This is pretty damn big information he got to me. Let's see where this goes but yes, Atlanta has been in talks for the #1 overall pick. I was told it will be slightly more costly than DAL/ATL and ATL/NO meaning 2021 or 2022 will be an unprotected pick, no protections. MIN has been reaching out to all of the top 8 teams and the interest just isn't there for a future 1st or their 2021 pick back. 

 

GS - While talks to trade out of the 2nd overall pick is still ongoing, GS has narrowed down their big board to 6 players. S. Bey, Deni A., Wiseman, Ant, Ball, and Toppin. They aren't leaning to anyone right now. They are shopping MIN 2021 1st and Wiggins for an all-star center or excellent young center. They have been in contact with Indy and Orlando about their centers Turner, Sabonis, and Vucevic. He was told Indy wasn't that interested. It's just really hard for Indy to move into the top 3 without a legit All-Star or a lottery in general. If Indy had #11 and Turner, they could get #2 right now. He is saying this will be a tough play. He said GS/PHI have been in talks for Horford/Wiggins but the issue the 3rd team to give value to PHI for Wiggins. Wiggins seems like a blocker right now for GS. It seems like they are looking to do the best possible deal for them. Like Atlanta, they have been talking to EVERYBODY! 

 

CHA - They are top to a big 4. Toppin, Wiseman, Ball, and Edwards with a strong lean to Wiseman then a lean-to Edwards which everyone is starting to confirm. He said he got laughed at on the phone when he asked if they read the Ringer's mock with CHA trading 2021 1st. He said CHA is fine at 3 and is not interesting in moving up unless the deal makes sense for both teams. There is talk that GS and CHA have talked about a trade where CHA takes on Wiggins to move up one spot and GS takes on Zeller. CHA is NOT interested in a trade of a future 1st. A trade could add a 2nd round pick from both sides. He confirmed that. Bonnell sadly can't get specifics but he can. 

 

CHI - Looking at Ball, Hayes, Haliburton, and Deni. Nothing has really changed. 

 

CLE - Edwards, Ball, Toppin, Deni, and Wiseman are their guys. I really like Okoro a lot which is where he could also go. 

 

ATL - He only confirmed Atlanta will trade out of this pick. He thinks Atlanta is moving up but he's heard several think Atlanta is moving out of the 1st altogether. 

 

DET - They are looking at lead guards but have a keen interest in Toppin if he falls. 

 

NY - They are all over the place doing research on a lot of guys. They are looking to Okoro, Vassell, and Williams. 

 

WAS - Okongwu seems to be the consensus but it depends who lands at #6 in place of Atlanta. If it's MIN, Toppin or Okongwu could be the pick which would mean WAS would be a tough spot. 

 

PHO - Has looked to move up but there was no interest due to the assets that were available. He thinks they are a trade down team. 

 

SA - It seems like they aren't willing to move White or Murray based on his recent findings. This will likely kill their ability to trade up. 

 

SAC/NO - No details. 

 

BOS - Is a team looking to move up but not too high. This is where #8 NY could come into play if the right guy drops. He was told that Haliburton or Okongwu has piqued their interest. 

 

The rest: 

 

Brooklyn has been shopping #19 for an upgrade. He wasn't exactly told what the upgrade is but he thinks this is a Buddy Hield trade. Even with Hield, they still want to resign Joe Harris at all costs and don't give a damn about the LT. 

 

Philly is targeting CP3 as well as the Clippers. Their willingness to trade #21 as their main asset and Horford has some value but LAC wants to be able to clear all of the cap room for CP3 and maybe even adding a young player or an asset in some manner. At the end of the day, CP3 will be able to choose where he goes. 

 

OKC is shopping Steven Adams and I was told he is getting decent pull. They did target GS MIN 2021 1st but GS didn't view Adams as worth that picks on any level. There is still interest from GS in Adams nonetheless. The issue with OKC is they may have to take a late 1st for Adams and that might not be enough to move him for OKC but that's a better value than DET got for Drummond. Boston is considering him but his price tag is too high. Boston wants to resign Aron Baynes. 

 

He is hearing the same thing others are about Gordon Hayward. He is looking to opt-out. He is looking to resign or find an SnT deal to Dallas. This one is Boston's to lose. He seems to want to resign but with more years and a less competitive market than 2021. 

 

Nothing changed with the Clippers from what I've stated. He said everything is still the same. DeRozan wants to go back home to LA. There is odds of him getting that deal that appeals to him but I was told his market value is what LA wants to pay him which is 17-19 million which will make a well-paid 3rd to 4th option. 

 

Clippers are targeting resigning Harrell, Green, and Morris. I was told they have an interest in Gallo, Baynes, and Grant. Even some interest in Wood. One of the big sales of Lue was his roster flexibility skills which both Leonard and Ballmer valued. Clippers are planning on keeping a lot of their core but there will be some major changes that is what he has continued to be told. It doesn't look great for PG13. He really rubs a lot of people the wrong way throughout the season and this isn't the 1st time as I mentioned. 

 

Lakers are trying to maintain but they are looking to upgrade Green and Kuz. I was told this will be harder than it looks. Oladipo is their target but he's not going to be easy to land. They are looking for that 3rd option. I've heard LaVine is also a target but CHI has little interest. 

 

Philly has been active, to say the least. They have been on the market for adding more talent. CP3 has been a player that they have been targeting but I was told it's not super likely. PHI has had talks with GS about Wiggins/Horford but they want a better 3rd player than Wiggins and GS 2021 1st isn't that attractive. They are also open to keeping the pick a lot more than Brooklyn is with their pick. Buddy Hield is a target as well. It's just Andrew Wiggins value is so low regardless of how GS wants to sell it. 

 

 

Toronto was looking at major changes and was targeting guys like Harrell but things just changed. It became clear they focused on resigned FVV. They are looking at cheaper options and have faced the reality that making that major move might not be possible. While they are pitching the idea of getting Giannis, it will be difficult. They do have some options and have been fairly active on trades even with the Hawks but it's looking like they will maintain more than a wholesale change. 

 

Dallas has been extremely active and really wants to be a player in the SnT market. The issue is, they don't have much value to offer anyone. They are trying to make it clear, they need to be a player for Giannis. I just don't hear the interest from Giannis side. It's either MIL, GS, LAL, MIA, or TOR. The talk that it's Dallas is just not there. That said, they want to be a player for Kawhi in 2021 as well.

 

Indy is in a tough place. They want to move up but the interest in there if they also had a lottery pick. Without one, it's a limited deal to these teams. 

 

[terrell]

Hawks want the  #1 pick to trade or keep? Wtf? lol. No way we give up our 2021 unprotected pick..

Edited October 28, 2020 by terrell

[NBASupes]

1 minute ago, terrell said:

Hawks want the  #1 pick to trade or keep? Wtf? lol

Based on what I've personally been hearing, to flip. For whom, I would assume it's Paul George but it could be someone else who's available that Atlanta may covet that people don't know is available. 

[Blunt91]

5 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

Based on what I've personally been hearing, to flip. For whom, I would assume it's Paul George but it could be someone else who's available that Atlanta may covet that people don't know is available. 

Paul George doesn't fit Schlenk's profile of a Young Veteran.  He has always stated he wants someone who can grow with the current group.

[NBASupes]

1 minute ago, Blunt91 said:

Paul George doesn't fit Schlenk's profile of a Young Veteran.  He has always stated he wants someone who can grow with the current group.

I don't know who it could be. I would say PG13 is in his prime. He's younger than Jimmy Butler. 

[capstone21]

I didn’t understand what number one would cost ... are we talking 6 and future picks or 6 and a core guy(s)?

which I don’t want to do unless it’s a flip like you said for guys that will help us now.