Welcome to Atlanta, Sharife Cooper

[kg01]

3 hours ago, thecampster said:

As I stated back in April, there is more to this story then the media is discussing. Cooper and the Hawks were trying to spin summer league into up'ing his trade value so they could get something back for their investment. He bombed.  The Murray trade gave them their backup plan at the 1 and Cooper believes he can contribute. He did not want to go back to the g-league. No idea what his plans for the future are.

Whole situation doesn't smell right because the whole story isn't out there. It'll come out eventually.

 

Smells like a Reddish-ish situation.

[capstone21]

He was a long shot to ever play anyway and his struggles in summer league just made him expendable 

[Carmine]

A shame - was rooting for him, but the addition of DJM makes this non-noteworthy.

[BangHolman]

I always heard he had some attitude/diva issues. He thought he was too good for GL last season and would show up late to meetings, film sessions, and practice. If true, I'm sure that played a role.

[JayBirdHawk]

For those that watched SL in its entirety - is this true?

 

 

[kg01]

27 minutes ago, BangHolman said:

I always heard he had some attitude/diva issues. He thought he was too good for GL last season and would show up late to meetings, film sessions, and practice. If true, I'm sure that played a role.

No, no, no according to Peo it was alllllll about the summer league play.

[BangHolman]

3 minutes ago, kg01 said:

No, no, no according to Peo it was alllllll about the summer league play.

He was too good for SL play, so he dialed it in. That's why he looked so bad. /s

[kg01]

3 minutes ago, BangHolman said:

He was too good for SL play, so he dialed it in. That's why he looked so bad. /s

I gotta wonder.  What did he expect when he got drafted?  Did he think it was gonna be a Trae/Sharife backcourt?  Weird.

[JayBirdHawk]

41 minutes ago, BangHolman said:

I always heard he had some attitude/diva issues. He thought he was too good for GL last season and would show up late to meetings, film sessions, and practice. If true, I'm sure that played a role.

That's very unfortunate if true. You can't have an unprofessional approach to your job.

[terrell]

10 hours ago, Spud2nique said:

That’s why he didn’t make it. He needs to save that love juice. That last pic, he didn’t last.

I heard she dumped him right before SL.. No wonder he struggled.. smh

[terrell]

4 hours ago, AHF said:

It looks like it played a role in the two explanations that have been tossed out:

(1) Peo Model - Hawks were high on Cooper and intended to keep him for the long term before SL.  Then he stunk it up and they decided that his college and gleague experience that led to their high opinion meant little in the face of the 5 terrible games in SL.

(2) Camp Model - After a middling gleague season and discontent over his limited opportunities and Atlanta locking down 3 deep at pg, Atlanta had decided to get rid of Cooper but they figured they would try to trade him first.  They just got $2M for moving down a few spots in the second round so if they could get an asset for him it would easily be worth it given the cost of making the offer and cutting him was $50k.  Before and after his SL run, they could not get an asset for him and so cut him.

In either case, it seems very possible that summer league was at least a meaningful factor in either getting him cut or the Hawks not getting any offers.  So tip of the cap to you there.

To your bigger question all the problems with SL as a meaningful tool for evaluating players still applies:

1)  It is a small handful of games.  Imagine making your judgment on Trae after his first 5 games in the league, lol.  But even worse than that since he had a full training camp to get used to his teammates and learn what the team wanted to do.

2) Rosters are largely gleague talent.  But with the added downsides of points 1 and 3.

3)  Rosters are thrown together so players don’t know each other and coaches have no time to institute any real organization.  Play is closer to All-Star game level in that regard than regular season NBA level.

All the issues that apply to the summer league basically apply to the Drew League and similar exhibitions as well.  If a GM finds significance in one, he should do so with the other.

Speaking of the Drew League.. I still cant get over how thin JC looked.. You see him Peo?

Edited July 26, 2022 by terrell

[Peoriabird]

26 minutes ago, terrell said:

Speaking of the Drew League.. I still cant get over how thin JC looked.. You see him Peo?

You mean that double double?

[macdaddy]

1 hour ago, JayBirdHawk said:

For those that watched SL in its entirety - is this true?

 

 

I watched maybe 10 games.  Yeah i could see that i guess.  I don't remember any specifically but overall i felt he did a good job distributing.   G league in general doesn't see a ton of spectacular passes.  Honestly JJ may have actually had more passes of the impressive variety so that's not good.  

[JayBirdHawk]

29 minutes ago, macdaddy said:

I watched maybe 10 games.  Yeah i could see that i guess.  I don't remember any specifically but overall i felt he did a good job distributing.   G league in general doesn't see a ton of spectacular passes.  Honestly JJ may have actually had more passes of the impressive variety so that's not good.  

The article was referencing Summer League, not GLeague.

[StonedDogs]

12 hours ago, Spud2nique said:

Good luck Coop.

He seems like a Pistons type player to me. Electrifying one on one type guy but maybe doesn’t get the team going.

In any event, good luck to the kid.

We need to start using our 2nd round picks on guys that fit roles and bust butt.

I'm not sure he's a good one on one guy against quality nba defenders. He struggled against hungry summer league defenders. Someone else's problems now though. We have our guards 

[terrell]

2 hours ago, Peoriabird said:

You mean that double double?

LOLZ..

 

[Spud2nique]

3 hours ago, terrell said:

I heard she dumped him right before SL.. No wonder he struggled.. smh

Wait, no that should have motivated him. Unless that was high junior high love.  

[terrell]

48 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

Wait, no that should have motivated him. Unless that was high junior high love.  

He was heartbroken.. lol

[Spud2nique]

14 minutes ago, terrell said:

He was heartbroken.. lol

Sounds more like he a broke d!ck n I digress

[terrell]

1 hour ago, Spud2nique said:

Sounds more like he a broke d!ck n I digress

I hope you realize I was joking and couldnt care less about Rife and his lil Mamas...........lol