CAM REDDISH TO NY FOR KEVIN KNOX AND FIRST!?!

[marco102]

Happy Birthday!   I feel a breakout year coming for him. We are going to see the ECF Cam more consistently throughout the year. I don't expect the shooting percentages to be that elite, but way more  consistent shot making and elite defense.  I'm still a Cam Stan!

 

[RedDawg#8]

11 hours ago, marco102 said:

Happy Birthday!   I feel a breakout year coming for him. We are going to see the ECF Cam more consistently throughout the year. I don't expect the shooting percentages to be that elite, but way more  consistent shot making and elite defense.  I'm still a Cam Stan!

 

New nickname alert  

"Clamp God"

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Edited September 2, 2021 by RedDawg#8

[marco102]

It seems a lot of fans on here are starting to give up on Cam. I won't be one of them. 

https://theathletic.com/2865070/2021/10/06/cam-reddish-and-his-pursuit-to-find-his-old-self-and-help-the-hawks/

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Cam Reddish and his pursuit to find his ‘old self’ and help the Hawks

When he worked with his trainers Greg Garrett and Pooh Evans, one of the first things they noticed is how Reddish gets in his own way when it comes to trying to be a perfectionist. It’s all about short-term memory for Garrett and Evans. Whenever Reddish would miss a shot this offseason, they’d yell out, “So what?! Do it again! Shoot! Shoot! Shoot! Nobody cares!” The goal is to get him excited when he gets the ball where he trusts in his ability and isn’t thinking about those who are watching him fail in the moment.

“You can print this, I don’t care. We reference RJ (Barrett) to him,” Garrett said. “RJ bricked so many shots when he was at Duke. He put up a lot of shots and missed. When he got to the Knicks, he still bricked a lot of shots. The point is he didn’t stop shooting. He didn’t care. If he missed, he was going to come back and jack it again. I told him he could miss 10 straight shots, make one and go home and be happy. That’s what we instilled in Cam.

“Me and Pooh don’t care if he misses. The next shot is what matters. I told him what makes him look better is if he misses the first shot and doesn’t care when he gets the next shot or if he misses the first two shots and makes the third shot. That’s more impressive than trying to make them all. It’s all about short-term memory.”

 

Edited October 6, 2021 by marco102

[JayBirdHawk]

41 minutes ago, marco102 said:

It seems a lot of fans on here are starting to give up on Cam. I won't be one of them. 

https://theathletic.com/2865070/2021/10/06/cam-reddish-and-his-pursuit-to-find-his-old-self-and-help-the-hawks/

 

That was a good read.

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Cam Reddish had four months this past season to reflect, to learn and to grow in ways he didn’t expect in his second season in the NBA. Reddish played in just 26 games this past season, as he sat out with an Achilles injury that didn’t fully heal until the Hawks were in the Eastern Conference finals.

During that time Reddish was out, he studied the game intently. If he couldn’t physically play, he was going to play the game mentally. When he was on the bench, he would think about what he would do if he was on the floor. He picked up on opposing players’ tendencies and came to the realization that once the season was over, he was going to spend his offseason in Norristown, Pa., a suburb of Philadelphia and his hometown.

 

He has got to fix his mindset and confidence. Hopefully we see it.

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The big thing for him was improving his mindset. For the past two seasons, Reddish’s confidence on the floor was drained whenever he had a mistake on either end of the floor. He’d slump his shoulders, drop his head and be disengaged until he forgot about it. It’s well known throughout the Hawks organization that this was clearly something Reddish needed to fix. Everyone misses shots. Everyone makes mental mistakes. The key is how fast can you accept it and move on?

 

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Reddish learned that he had a lot of wasted movement when he was on the floor. Something that should’ve taken one step was taking him two, so the medical staff and his personal trainers have drilled into his head that the less stress he puts on his body, the better. A lot of his off-court training this past offseason focused on mobility and stretching, plus a better diet that saw him gain five pounds of muscle.

 

[TheNorthCydeRises]

19 minutes ago, marco102 said:

It seems a lot of fans on here are starting to give up on Cam. I won't be one of them. 

https://theathletic.com/2865070/2021/10/06/cam-reddish-and-his-pursuit-to-find-his-old-self-and-help-the-hawks/

 

I'm sorry, but that piece from the article does NOT do Cam any favors.  One, if that's the advice that his trainers are giving him, he needs new trainers. Cam doesn't need cheerleaders in his ear to keep shooting, when he's missing shots during training sessions ( another red flag ).  Cam needs trainers that will fix his mechanics on his shot, so that it'll have a better chance of going in.

If those guys think that Can can go 0 - 6 in a game, and still have the green light to keep shooting, they are sadly mistaken,  We have way too much talent on the team to let anyone not named Trae Young start out a game 0 - 6, before he gets sent to the bench for another guy who can immediately come in and knock down shots.  And that's only because Trae can create 10 points while scoring 0.  Cam can't do that.

The problem I see with Cam, is that he's a tremendous raw talent that would probably kill people in a park setting,  For you 2K players, he'd be the guy that tries to do everything on his own at the park, and might be successful at it.

But put him in an organized team setting, his talent doesn't come through consistently enough.

I just want consistency from Cam.  Come in and make a few shots, play good defense, and don't kill the team by trying to do too much.

What we don't need is for him acting like he's the best shooter on the team, and has the unlimited green light.

Cam's shooting light should always flash yellow.

 

[Spud2nique]

3 minutes ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

For you 2K players, he'd be the guy that tries to do everything on his own at the park, and might be successful at it.

I let him run the 2nd unit as the point guard. I use his natural skills to score and distribute so not all one on one. 
 

Cam just plays too cool for school, he’s gotta ugly it up a bit and be ok with that. 

4 minutes ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

I just want consistency from Cam.  Come in and make a few shots, play good defense, and don't kill the team by trying to do too much.

This. Just let the game come to you without forcing anything but not being too passive either. It’s a fine line for sure but he needs to find it.

[JayBirdHawk]

4 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

I let him run the 2nd unit as the point guard. I use his natural skills to score and distribute so not all one on one. 
 

Cam just plays too cool for school, he’s gotta ugly it up a bit and be ok with that. 

Or as LP said....stop trying to look good playing and just play, keep it simple.

[AHF]

1 hour ago, Spud2nique said:

This. Just let the game come to you without forcing anything but not being too passive either. It’s a fine line for sure but he needs to find it.

Felt like he did a good job of that in the playoffs.  Most of his shots were in the flow and by taking those good shots it gave him success that fed his confidence.

[Spud2nique]

1 minute ago, AHF said:

Felt like he did a good job of that in the playoffs.  Most of his shots were in the flow and by taking those good shots it gave him success that fed his confidence.

No doubt. I’ll roll with what we saw in the playoffs vs 1 preseason game where he looked like he slipped into a couple bad habits with complicating a few moves on the court. If we get that playoff game 6 vs Bucks Cam, the league should be very afraid.

[NBASupes]

1 hour ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

I'm sorry, but that piece from the article does NOT do Cam any favors.  One, if that's the advice that his trainers are giving him, he needs new trainers. Cam doesn't need cheerleaders in his ear to keep shooting, when he's missing shots during training sessions ( another red flag ).  Cam needs trainers that will fix his mechanics on his shot, so that it'll have a better chance of going in.

If those guys think that Can can go 0 - 6 in a game, and still have the green light to keep shooting, they are sadly mistaken,  We have way too much talent on the team to let anyone not named Trae Young start out a game 0 - 6, before he gets sent to the bench for another guy who can immediately come in and knock down shots.  And that's only because Trae can create 10 points while scoring 0.  Cam can't do that.

The problem I see with Cam, is that he's a tremendous raw talent that would probably kill people in a park setting,  For you 2K players, he'd be the guy that tries to do everything on his own at the park, and might be successful at it.

But put him in an organized team setting, his talent doesn't come through consistently enough.

I just want consistency from Cam.  Come in and make a few shots, play good defense, and don't kill the team by trying to do too much.

What we don't need is for him acting like he's the best shooter on the team, and has the unlimited green light.

Cam's shooting light should always flash yellow.

 

He can do more than that but he needs to master that component is something I agree with. 

[NBASupes]

24 minutes ago, AHF said:

Felt like he did a good job of that in the playoffs.  Most of his shots were in the flow and by taking those good shots it gave him success that fed his confidence.

The perfect player who gets the most simple part is Tony Snell. He can do the simple and do it very well. Now when you need to do more is when Snell gets in trouble because he can't. Cam can but he needs to do the simple so he can eventually be trusted to do more.

[AHF]

18 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

The perfect player who gets the most simple part is Tony Snell. He can do the simple and do it very well. Now when you need to do more is when Snell gets in trouble because he can't. Cam can but he needs to do the simple so he can eventually be trusted to do more.

Snell does it to an extreme.  Not saying it is the wrong thing given his limitations but I definitely have hopes to see Cam in a more assertive role on offense.  But moving towards Snell would be a good step.

[gurpilo]

Is really difficult for me to understand why people are giving up on Cam. We are deep, we can afford to have some young guys developing. The talent is there, the hightlights are there, you can see he can be special, consistency is not there but it takes more time for some players. We have 2 seasons to discover what we have on Cam, relax and enjoy the growth. 
 

We already have Huerter, Bogi and Hunter Claiming big  minutes, we can wait on Cam, prize is too big to change him for a role player.

Edited October 6, 2021 by gurpilo

[NBASupes]

The 2nd half of this game is why we all love Cam. He can score in an instant plus his defense is exceptional 

[Atlantaholic]

20 hours ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

I'm sorry, but that piece from the article does NOT do Cam any favors.  One, if that's the advice that his trainers are giving him, he needs new trainers. Cam doesn't need cheerleaders in his ear to keep shooting, when he's missing shots during training sessions ( another red flag ).  Cam needs trainers that will fix his mechanics on his shot, so that it'll have a better chance of going in.

If those guys think that Can can go 0 - 6 in a game, and still have the green light to keep shooting, they are sadly mistaken,  We have way too much talent on the team to let anyone not named Trae Young start out a game 0 - 6, before he gets sent to the bench for another guy who can immediately come in and knock down shots.  And that's only because Trae can create 10 points while scoring 0.  Cam can't do that.

The problem I see with Cam, is that he's a tremendous raw talent that would probably kill people in a park setting,  For you 2K players, he'd be the guy that tries to do everything on his own at the park, and might be successful at it.

But put him in an organized team setting, his talent doesn't come through consistently enough.

I just want consistency from Cam.  Come in and make a few shots, play good defense, and don't kill the team by trying to do too much.

What we don't need is for him acting like he's the best shooter on the team, and has the unlimited green light.

Cam's shooting light should always flash yellow.

 

Let's not jump to far fetched conclusions here. The trainers working on his confidence doesn't mean he isn't training on his shooting and form. In fact judging by the way his outside shot has looked since coming back from his most recent injury I would wager that him and the trainers put a metric ton of work on it. 

[AtLaS]

21 hours ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

I'm sorry, but that piece from the article does NOT do Cam any favors.  One, if that's the advice that his trainers are giving him, he needs new trainers. Cam doesn't need cheerleaders in his ear to keep shooting, when he's missing shots during training sessions ( another red flag ).  Cam needs trainers that will fix his mechanics on his shot, so that it'll have a better chance of going in.

If those guys think that Can can go 0 - 6 in a game, and still have the green light to keep shooting, they are sadly mistaken,  We have way too much talent on the team to let anyone not named Trae Young start out a game 0 - 6, before he gets sent to the bench for another guy who can immediately come in and knock down shots.  And that's only because Trae can create 10 points while scoring 0.  Cam can't do that.

The problem I see with Cam, is that he's a tremendous raw talent that would probably kill people in a park setting,  For you 2K players, he'd be the guy that tries to do everything on his own at the park, and might be successful at it.

But put him in an organized team setting, his talent doesn't come through consistently enough.

I just want consistency from Cam.  Come in and make a few shots, play good defense, and don't kill the team by trying to do too much.

What we don't need is for him acting like he's the best shooter on the team, and has the unlimited green light.

Cam's shooting light should always flash yellow.

 

That article doesn't seem to me that they are trying to expand his role or give him the ultimate green light.  Just that he needs to forget about the bad play he just made and keep playing with confidence.

This is a pretty common problem with lots of bball players, sulking after making a bad play, turnover, missed shot etc.  It leads to missing the next shot, not playing as well on defense etc. thus leading to having a bad game all the way through.  However if the player makes their first couple shots, they almost always have a good game, play better/harder on defense etc.  

Trae is excellent at this.  Some games he will start 1-10 with 4 turnovers, then kill in the 2nd half.  Or sometimes even have a terrible game all the way through, but still ball out and close in the 4th quarter.  That's one of his best attributes.  

Cam needs to get better at not worrying about what other ppl think when he makes mistakes, not that he needs to start playing hero ball.  But, when he's on the floor he will get open shots, have lanes to drive, play defense, and we need him to have full confidence in those scenarios.  Not be thinking about the last time he screwed up when the ball came his way.

 

[AHF]

4 hours ago, AtLaS said:

That article doesn't seem to me that they are trying to expand his role or give him the ultimate green light.  Just that he needs to forget about the bad play he just made and keep playing with confidence.

This is a pretty common problem with lots of bball players, sulking after making a bad play, turnover, missed shot etc.  It leads to missing the next shot, not playing as well on defense etc. thus leading to having a bad game all the way through.  However if the player makes their first couple shots, they almost always have a good game, play better/harder on defense etc.  

Trae is excellent at this.  Some games he will start 1-10 with 4 turnovers, then kill in the 2nd half.  Or sometimes even have a terrible game all the way through, but still ball out and close in the 4th quarter.  That's one of his best attributes.  

Cam needs to get better at not worrying about what other ppl think when he makes mistakes, not that he needs to start playing hero ball.  But, when he's on the floor he will get open shots, have lanes to drive, play defense, and we need him to have full confidence in those scenarios.  Not be thinking about the last time he screwed up when the ball came his way.

 

You are describing the very healthy notion of athletes having short memories to forget their mistakes and stay in a good frame of mind.  Totally agree that Trae is a great example of this.  

Cam needs that type of mentality but that is different than a "green light, shoot whenever" mentality.  

You can be a chucker who takes shots without a conscience but still gets in his head when he is missing them and can be someone who puts that last play behind them but very carefully chooses good shots and passes up on bad ones.

Ideally, we want Cam to have both the good shot selection and the confidence/short memory to keep his head in the game the right way.

[bird_dirt]

2 hours ago, AHF said:

You are describing the very healthy notion of athletes having short memories to forget their mistakes and stay in a good frame of mind.  Totally agree that Trae is a great example of this.  

Cam needs that type of mentality but that is different than a "green light, shoot whenever" mentality.  

You can be a chucker who takes shots without a conscience but still gets in his head when he is missing them and can be someone who puts that last play behind them but very carefully chooses good shots and passes up on bad ones.

Ideally, we want Cam to have both the good shot selection and the confidence/short memory to keep his head in the game the right way.

Sounds like my love life (pre-marriage).

[Cwell]

Is it me or does it look like Cam lost the muscle mass he put on during his Achilles injury? Looks kind of skinny again like pre injury

[bleachkit]

On 10/6/2021 at 1:16 PM, TheNorthCydeRises said:

I'm sorry, but that piece from the article does NOT do Cam any favors.  One, if that's the advice that his trainers are giving him, he needs new trainers. Cam doesn't need cheerleaders in his ear to keep shooting, when he's missing shots during training sessions ( another red flag ).  Cam needs trainers that will fix his mechanics on his shot, so that it'll have a better chance of going in.

If those guys think that Can can go 0 - 6 in a game, and still have the green light to keep shooting, they are sadly mistaken,  We have way too much talent on the team to let anyone not named Trae Young start out a game 0 - 6, before he gets sent to the bench for another guy who can immediately come in and knock down shots.  And that's only because Trae can create 10 points while scoring 0.  Cam can't do that.

The problem I see with Cam, is that he's a tremendous raw talent that would probably kill people in a park setting,  For you 2K players, he'd be the guy that tries to do everything on his own at the park, and might be successful at it.

But put him in an organized team setting, his talent doesn't come through consistently enough.

I just want consistency from Cam.  Come in and make a few shots, play good defense, and don't kill the team by trying to do too much.

What we don't need is for him acting like he's the best shooter on the team, and has the unlimited green light.

Cam's shooting light should always flash yellow.

 

They are trying to instill confidence in him, get him to play assertive. But yes, the truth is this the NBA, and you gotta hit shots or you'll be on the bench. But Cam is a streaky shooter, guys like that have to keep shooting to get hot.