NBASupes Posted June 8, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2022 (edited) NBASupes Podcast: NBA Draft. What if the Hawks move up, their options, and my eval. https://voca.ro/14D6ikWec04c Edited June 8, 2022 by NBASupes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted June 9, 2022 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 9, 2022 In this dream scenario.. Are the Kings planning to play Sabonis at C? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted June 9, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2022 59 minutes ago, Diesel said: In this dream scenario.. Are the Kings planning to play Sabonis at C? He plays the 5 for them, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member shakes Posted June 9, 2022 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 9, 2022 We're not getting #4 for JC and #16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Sothron Posted June 10, 2022 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 10, 2022 I want Dyson Daniels unless we can somehow get Chet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warcore Posted June 10, 2022 Report Share Posted June 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Sothron said: I want Dyson Daniels unless we can somehow get Chet. Daniels is a fantastic player to pair with Trae. People are doggin' this draft but there are multiple wing options that would fill our long term need to get the right backcourt mate with Trae. I'd be thrilled to pair him with any of Ivey, Sharpe, Daniels, or Mathurin. I love JC but if that's what we gotta give to grab the solution of another wing that can help with the scoring load, I say take the opportunity. Any pick #4 to 7 is guaranteed to have one of the above 4 available. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willthepureshooter Posted June 10, 2022 Report Share Posted June 10, 2022 This draft is so weak. From my sources, there's no clear #1 guy and it's a crap shoot after the 3rd pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurpilo Posted June 10, 2022 Report Share Posted June 10, 2022 1-4 you can get a player with star potencial. At 7 is a real gamble with no guarantee. No significante difference between 7 and 16. We shouldn't trade a proven player that is near star level as Collins and 16 for a slight chance to get a player that perhaps someday is at the Collins level. Makes no sense. Specially if you give 16 additionally. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDawg#8 Posted June 10, 2022 Report Share Posted June 10, 2022 1 hour ago, gurpilo said: 1-4 you can get a player with star potencial. At 7 is a real gamble with no guarantee. No significante difference between 7 and 16. We shouldn't trade a proven player that is near star level as Collins and 16 for a slight chance to get a player that perhaps someday is at the Collins level. Makes no sense. Specially if you give 16 additionally. Bird in the hand vs 2 in the bush. Some are willing to make change for the sake of change. Trae is the first real superstar we have had since Nique. You don’t trade away his best teammates for the opportunity to select the 7th best player in any draft. Especially one that is a leader and highly effective and efficient next to Trae. If we lose JC it needs to be in a deal for a proven upgrade. Not chasing rookie potential. Trae is too competitive to accept us taking a rebuild while Luka, Ja, and maybe even Zion, if he plays next season, get all the headlines while their teams compete in the postseason and we are at home celebrating a lottery pick. This season was a disappointment, Trae wants us to be better next season, not worse. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNorthCydeRises Posted June 10, 2022 Report Share Posted June 10, 2022 B-Math will end up being the 2nd best player in this draft. With ivey probably off the board before the 4th pick, it's B-Math all the way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted June 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2022 2 hours ago, gurpilo said: 1-4 you can get a player with star potencial. At 7 is a real gamble with no guarantee. No significante difference between 7 and 16. We shouldn't trade a proven player that is near star level as Collins and 16 for a slight chance to get a player that perhaps someday is at the Collins level. Makes no sense. Specially if you give 16 additionally. I think there is a clear gap. Between the top 10. You got four tier 2 prospects The three bigs and Ivey You got four tier 3.5 prospects. Keegan Shaedon Daniels Griffin And you got two high end tier 4 prospects Mathurin Davis We drafted Two tier 3.5 guys Trae - Boom Cam - Bust for us Three high end tier 4 guys in Okongwu - shows dpoy potential Hunter - He met his expected floor but not his expected ceiling yet. Collins - Fell to us in the draft and was a steal. He had the talent but there was a lot of questions around him and he solved a lot of it. Everyone else was normal tier 4 guys or tier 5. We had a chance to draft a tier 2 wing in Luka Doncic and passed on the opportunity. That's the only chance we had to take a tier 1, 2, or 3 guy so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey Posted June 10, 2022 Report Share Posted June 10, 2022 25 minutes ago, NBASupes said: I think there is a clear gap. Between the top 10. You got four tier 2 prospects The three bigs and Ivey You got four tier 3.5 prospects. Keegan Shaedon Daniels Griffin And you got two high end tier 4 prospects Mathurin Davis We drafted Two tier 3.5 guys Trae - Boom Cam - Bust for us Three high end tier 4 guys in Okongwu - shows dpoy potential Hunter - He met his expected floor but not his expected ceiling yet. Collins - Fell to us in the draft and was a steal. He had the talent but there was a lot of questions around him and he solved a lot of it. Everyone else was normal tier 4 guys or tier 5. We had a chance to draft a tier 2 wing in Luka Doncic and passed on the opportunity. That's the only chance we had to take a tier 1, 2, or 3 guy so far. cam as a 3.5 LMAOOOOOO. bro let it go already. He stinks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted June 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2022 7 hours ago, Mikey said: cam as a 3.5 LMAOOOOOO. bro let it go already. He stinks That isn’t what I wrote. Read it again. (AHF edit) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey Posted June 10, 2022 Report Share Posted June 10, 2022 Just now, NBASupes said: Somebody can't read. I can read just cause you say bust for us doesn't change the fact he wasn't a 3.5 tier prospect. He couldn't finish at all in college, he had terrible efficiency in college, he had a 1:2 assist to turnover ratio in college. The dude was terrible all he had was the body. Dude was a project and a half not a prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted June 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, Mikey said: I can read just cause you say bust for us doesn't change the fact he wasn't a 3.5 tier prospect. He couldn't finish at all in college, he had terrible efficiency in college, he had a 1:2 assist to turnover ratio in college. The dude was terrible all he had was the body. Dude was a project and a half not a prospect. I evaluated him as a tier 3.5 prospect. You are free and entitled to your opinion. Have a good day sir. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post h4wkfan Posted June 10, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Mikey said: I can read just cause you say bust for us doesn't change the fact he wasn't a 3.5 tier prospect. He couldn't finish at all in college, he had terrible efficiency in college, he had a 1:2 assist to turnover ratio in college. The dude was terrible all he had was the body. Dude was a project and a half not a prospect. Revisionist history. He was drafted top 10 and at the time - everybody, non hawks fans included - thought we got a steal. He was a quality prospect. Just didn’t develop into a quality player for us. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg01 Posted June 10, 2022 Report Share Posted June 10, 2022 46 minutes ago, h4wkfan said: Revisionist history. He was drafted top 10 and at the time - everybody, non hawks fans included - thought we got a steal. He was a quality prospect. Just didn’t develop into a quality player for us. This is fair. Didn't work out. A lot of top 10 picks don't work out. I'd venture to say 'most' top 10 picks do not work out. Doesn't change the fact that they went top for 'reasons'. Although I may disagree a bit with @NBASupes continued thoughts of Cam being a possible high-quality player, it's not out of the question that he (and most others) rated Cam highly at that point in time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted June 10, 2022 Moderators Report Share Posted June 10, 2022 40 minutes ago, kg01 said: This is fair. Didn't work out. A lot of top 10 picks don't work out. I'd venture to say 'most' top 10 picks do not work out. Doesn't change the fact that they went top for 'reasons'. Although I may disagree a bit with @NBASupes continued thoughts of Cam being a possible high-quality player, it's not out of the question that he (and most others) rated Cam highly at that point in time. Everyone giving up on Cam because he's not a Hawk. If he has still here everyone would believe that next year he'll be a star. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted June 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2022 52 minutes ago, kg01 said: This is fair. Didn't work out. A lot of top 10 picks don't work out. I'd venture to say 'most' top 10 picks do not work out. Doesn't change the fact that they went top for 'reasons'. Although I may disagree a bit with @NBASupes continued thoughts of Cam being a possible high-quality player, it's not out of the question that he (and most others) rated Cam highly at that point in time. I haven't given up on Cam. I still believe he can be an all star in this league. But he has to learn how to play winning ball and he has to do more than flash high end talent. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted June 10, 2022 Report Share Posted June 10, 2022 14 minutes ago, macdaddy said: Everyone giving up on Cam because he's not a Hawk. If he has still here everyone would believe that next year he'll be a star. Opportunity is everything. And a positive attitude about what your role is within organization and your willingness to accept it. Talent wise though he’s better than 90% of the players out there. I still have no doubt about it. 3 minutes ago, NBASupes said: I haven't given up on Cam. I still believe he can be an all star in this league. But he has to learn how to play winning ball and he has to do more than flash high end talent. Still a Lamborghini 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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