2022 Offseason Ramblings

[marco102]

7 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

15 - (6x2) = 15-12 =3

Somehow @marco102 still ended up with 3, lol

haha, I put the wrong numbers there, but I knew the amount was 15-12

[JayBirdHawk]

2 minutes ago, LongTimeFan said:

Marco and I got there, together, in the end.  Both of our combined mistakes equaled excellence ultimately.  We should at least get a free breakfast at Waffle House don't you think?

[Diesel]

36 minutes ago, marco102 said:

Mikal was about $91,000,000 - AAV $22.75MM vs $20MM.

But how does Hunter compare to Mikal?

 

[marco102]

2 minutes ago, Diesel said:

But how does Hunter compare to Mikal?

 

Mikal is more available and has been better at this point which is why the actual value is about $2.75 less. 

When you look at percentage of salary cap it's actually a larger dip. 

You are only looking at raw numbers. 

[Guest]

33 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

15 - (6x2) = 15-12 =3

Somehow @marco102 still ended up with 3, lol

And you are correct.  The answer is 3, as you stated.  
https://www.cuemath.com/numbers/pemdas/

First thing to go with old age is ... I forget?

(I must have been screwing around thinking up basketball trades during algebra class in 1967!)

[JayBirdHawk]

26 minutes ago, Diesel said:

But how does Hunter compare to Mikal?

 

 

23 minutes ago, marco102 said:

Mikal is more available and has been better at this point which is why the actual value is about $2.75 less. 

When you look at percentage of salary cap it's actually a larger dip. 

You are only looking at raw numbers. 

Player comparison in year #3 for Bridges and Hunter:

Per Game

Rk	Player	Season	Age	G	GS	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	2P	2PA	2P%	eFG%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS
1	Mikal Bridges	2020-21	24	72	72	32.6	5.0	9.3	.543	1.9	4.4	.425	3.2	4.9	.647	.643	1.5	1.8	.840	1.1	3.2	4.3	2.1	1.1	0.9	0.8	1.6	13.5
2	De'Andre Hunter	2021-22	24	53	52	29.8	4.8	10.8	.442	1.4	3.7	.379	3.4	7.2	.474	.506	2.4	3.1	.765	0.5	2.8	3.3	1.3	0.7	0.4	1.3	2.9	13.4

Totals

 

Rk	Player	Season	Age	G	GS	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	2P	2PA	2P%	eFG%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS
1	Mikal Bridges	2020-21	24	72	72	2348	363	669	.543	134	315	.425	229	354	.647	.643	110	131	.840	76	233	309	152	76	63	57	116	970
2	De'Andre Hunter	2021-22	24	53	52	1577	254	575	.442	74	195	.379	180	380	.474	.506	127	166	.765	26	150	176	68	36	21	69	155	709

Per 36 Minutes

 

Rk	Player	Season	Age	G	GS	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	2P	2PA	2P%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS
1	Mikal Bridges	2020-21	24	72	72	2348	5.6	10.3	.543	2.1	4.8	.425	3.5	5.4	.647	1.7	2.0	.840	1.2	3.6	4.7	2.3	1.2	1.0	0.9	1.8	14.9
2	De'Andre Hunter	2021-22	24	53	52	1577	5.8	13.1	.442	1.7	4.5	.379	4.1	8.7	.474	2.9	3.8	.765	0.6	3.4	4.0	1.6	0.8	0.5	1.6	3.5	16.2

[AHF]

2 hours ago, marco102 said:

Mikal was about $91,000,000 - AAV $22.75MM vs $20MM.

Win Shares through 3 years:

Mikal Bridges 15.7

DeAndre Hunter 2.9

 

year 4:

Bridges 8.9 WS

Hunter TBD

 

Anyone willing to bet on Hunter earning 2/3 as many WS as Bridges did  last year?  I’ll even skew the payoff to entice bets.

1 month control of your avatar if Hunter is 6 WS or less

2 month control of my avatar if Hunter is more than 6 WS (6.001, etc)

 

I’ll be rooting for Hunter either way but I see a pretty big gap between the two right now.

[marco102]

23 minutes ago, AHF said:

Win Shares through 3 years:

Mikal Bridges 15.7

DeAndre Hunter 2.9

 

year 4:

Bridges 8.9 WS

Hunter TBD

 

Anyone willing to bet on Hunter earning 2/3 as many WS as Bridges did  last year?  I’ll even skew the payoff to entice bets.

1 month control of your avatar if Hunter is 6 WS or less

2 month control of my avatar if Hunter is more than 6 WS (6.001, etc)

 

I’ll be rooting for Hunter either way but I see a pretty big gap between the two right now.

We are talking contract here. I'm saying hunter AAV of $20MM with the salary cap increase is a reasonable contract. I also added the caveat he needed to stay healthy and play solid defense. 

There's no way he's signing a 5 year $75 million contract.  If he does, I'll jump for joy.  5 years $100 million is what he's probably looking for. 

[EazyRoc]

On 7/18/2022 at 9:12 PM, kg01 said:

Nah, just flow with it.  None of us know if you listened or not.  Just toss some rumors out and cite "sources".  Shiiiii, that's what BSPN does.

The tweet writes itself....

"According to ....... sources with knowledge of Collins' way of thinking, JC wants Young traded and says he and Westbrick chase triple-doubles."

 

Edited July 20, 2022 by EazyRoc

[JayBirdHawk]

 

 

[Spud2nique]

Time to pounce on him.

 

 

JaMychal Green officially waived by Oklahoma City

Rylan Stiles: The Oklahoma City Thunder has waived forward JaMychal Green, it was announced today by Executive Vice President and General Manager Sam Presti. Green was originally acquired from the Denver Nuggets on June 23, 2022. Per Thunder PR

 

– via Twitter Rylan_Stiles

 Top Rumors, Free Agency, Sam Presti, JaMychal Green, Golden State Warriors, Oklahoma City Thunder

 

[marco102]

6 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

Time to pounce on him.

 

 

JaMychal Green officially waived by Oklahoma City

Rylan Stiles: The Oklahoma City Thunder has waived forward JaMychal Green, it was announced today by Executive Vice President and General Manager Sam Presti. Green was originally acquired from the Denver Nuggets on June 23, 2022. Per Thunder PR

 

– via Twitter Rylan_Stiles

 Top Rumors, Free Agency, Sam Presti, JaMychal Green, Golden State Warriors, Oklahoma City Thunder

 

Signing with the warriors.

[FL_BRYANT]

Hawks still aren't a very physical team. Who have they added. Frank Kaminski, the Holiday Brothers, the two draft picks ? I don't think so. Also have we replaced the shooting we lost in Heurter and Gallo? Right now the front line of Capela, Hunter and Collins haven't reached the level of play needed to win a championship. This front line along with Kaminski just doesn't strike fear in the hearts of many NBA teams. Teams will still try to intimidate the Hawks physically. Team is full of finesse, skill ballayers.

[Spud2nique]

54 minutes ago, marco102 said:

Signing with the warriors.

[JayBirdHawk]

 

 

[Spud2nique]

5 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

 

 

I remember that he’s not that bad.

[Spud2nique]

Not sure if anyone posted this but odds on the southeast for next year thus far.

@kg01 I think we are better than your BIL squad. I might throw a few shekels on this puppy . 

Pays out at +190 which is not bad. Basically every hunny gets you .

We have the best player between the two squads. Ya, Jimi ain’t it.

[RedDawg#8]

5 hours ago, FL_BRYANT said:

Hawks still aren't a very physical team. Who have they added. Frank Kaminski, the Holiday Brothers, the two draft picks ? I don't think so. Also have we replaced the shooting we lost in Heurter and Gallo? Right now the front line of Capela, Hunter and Collins haven't reached the level of play needed to win a championship. This front line along with Kaminski just doesn't strike fear in the hearts of many NBA teams. Teams will still try to intimidate the Hawks physically. Team is full of finesse, skill ballayers.

You just vent posted and contradicted yourself:

1. You said we aren’t physical, but complained about losing 2 of the softest players from last season’s lineup. So we are now softer even after replacing softies (Kev, Gallo) with non-softies (Murray, JJ, and more minutes from OO)?

2. Have we replaced the shooting of Kev and Gallo?

Kev shot about 39%

Gallo shot 38% last year. 

This year we added:

A. Holiday: 38% last season, 373% career

J. Holiday: 36.7% last season, 365% career

Griffin: 45% as a college freshman 

Martin: 43% as a college senior

You tell me? Is this not more than serviceable compared to what we lost?

3. Murray, Dre, OO, Clint and Harkless are not finesse players by any means. JC, AHoliday, JHoliday, and JJ, are not as physical but I wouldn’t call them finesse or label them as just being “skill guys”. Kaminsky is a legit 7 footer with solid weight on him, he is no pushover either.

Overall, We got tougher, especially on defense, and we only lost about  0.1 %  on 3pt shooting from the projected role players. I think we are ok all things considered.

[Final_quest]

12 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said:

 

 

He says we have our opening night roster.  No more trades or signings except Exhibit 10 contracts.  

[Spud2nique]

The one that got away…  

Step forward or I’ll go receipt searching… 

Mario Hezonja signs with Real Madrid

Mario Hezonja has reached an agreement with Real Madrid and inked a two-year contract, the team announced Thursday.

 

– via EuroHoops.net

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