Official Game Thread: Hawks at Jazz

[dalamchops]

Maybe a few more min for an and oo but the distribution/rotation tonight was on point. Good to see no holidays.

[Spud2nique]

1 hour ago, dalamchops said:

Good to see no holidays.

What are you.. one of those?  You don’t like a day off here and there? 

[shakes]

 I call last night's lineup the 7/11 lineup because no holidays.

[MarylandHawk]

Trae’s activity on defense is really energizing the team. They are really playing like team. That ball is hopping on offense. 

[Gray Mule]

Good win.

In the 4th quarter, with a nice lead, these Hawks always stop being aggresive on offense.  They try to run the clock down as far as possible.  Our opponent is naturally super aggressive.  If only - - - If only the Hawks would continue to play as if they were behind, driving inside to score instead of killing the clock (Pervent offense?) perhaps our opponent wouldn't always make a large run.

Mile high, thin air, tired legs.  GO ATL HAWKS!!

[Spud2nique]

3 minutes ago, Gray Mule said:

these Hawks always stop being aggresive on offense. 

 

4 minutes ago, Gray Mule said:

tired legs. 

These are young men (pun intended) 

[Diesel]

3 hours ago, Plainview1981 said:

Collins has been regressing as a player for years. In almost every category. 

I disagree.

Collins has regressed in outside shooting this year.  

Collins has been a victim of our offense.   We don't feed him.  We leave him on the arc when he hasn't been shooting from there well.   His defense has definitely not regressed.    Collins is what you make him.   Early in the game when we go in transition and we go to him, Collins can carry the load.  But then we go away from him and only go back to set three pointers.   That's not his game. 

We saw the same thing with Hunter last night.   Hunter was hot and killing them from everywhere... especially in the third.  Then in the bottom of the third and the 4th, we only went to him once... for an outside set shot. 

We have two problems at work...

1.   We don't know how to feed the hot hand.

2.   We don't know how to maximize a player's ability by putting them in the right position and running plays to them.

These two things are on Nate. 

 

[JayBirdHawk]

8 hours ago, Spud2nique said:

His defense is much improved!

 

2 hours ago, MarylandHawk said:

Trae’s activity on defense is really energizing the team. They are really playing like team. That ball is hopping on offense. 

Comment by a Jazz Fan:

Trae Young with some actuality ok defense this game!

I just need effort from Trae!

[JayBirdHawk]

 

 

[Peoriabird]

Caught the game last night and without going through the thread, someone probably mentioned Trae's defense and rightfully so.  I thought he was excellent on defense last night.

[Spud2nique]

1 hour ago, JayBirdHawk said:

 

Comment by a Jazz Fan:

Trae Young with some actuality ok defense this game!

I just need effort from Trae!

Ya he got his hands on a lotta balls last night. 
 

Seriously though he missed a few steals by a millimeter. 

[JayBirdHawk]

 

 

[marco102]

2 hours ago, Peoriabird said:

Caught the game last night and without going through the thread, someone probably mentioned Trae's defense and rightfully so.  I thought he was excellent on defense last night.

This right here is what we need from him consistently.

Pretty good for WOAT.

[kg01]

13 minutes ago, marco102 said:

Pretty good for WOAT.

Huh?  What?  Somebody talkin' about Damian Lillllard?

[Plainview1981]

6 hours ago, Diesel said:

I disagree.

Collins has regressed in outside shooting this year.  

Collins has been a victim of our offense.   We don't feed him.  We leave him on the arc when he hasn't been shooting from there well.   His defense has definitely not regressed.    Collins is what you make him.   Early in the game when we go in transition and we go to him, Collins can carry the load.  But then we go away from him and only go back to set three pointers.   That's not his game. 

We saw the same thing with Hunter last night.   Hunter was hot and killing them from everywhere... especially in the third.  Then in the bottom of the third and the 4th, we only went to him once... for an outside set shot. 

We have two problems at work...

1.   We don't know how to feed the hot hand.

2.   We don't know how to maximize a player's ability by putting them in the right position and running plays to them.

These two things are on Nate. 

 

It's not just his scoring or his outside shooting. His rebounding has also dropped. But he has played better defense to help offset some of the reductions in other area's. He gets credit for that.

It's not all bad, buy the loss of the 3ball is big considering he isn't the most creative scorer ever as it is.

Edited February 4, 2023 by Plainview1981

[Diesel]

2 hours ago, Plainview1981 said:

It's not just his scoring or his outside shooting. His rebounding has also dropped. But he has played better defense to help offset some of the reductions in other area's. He gets credit for that.

It's not all bad, buy the loss of the 3ball is big considering he isn't the most creative scorer ever as it is.

Defense is about personnel too...  He plays a lot with DJ.  DJ is a better rebounder than Bogi/Kev were.  Then Clint is feeling 100% this year and is a monster on the boards.   AND he spends a lot of time defending outside of the post. 

I do want to see him raise his rebounds through scheme though.   Meaning, I hate to see other teams get the switch that they want..especially with OO.  OO gets abused when he's taken out of the paint on a switch with a fast guard/forward.. 

 

 

[JayBirdHawk]

For those who are still interested in Collins for Beasley and Vanderbilt - what did you see last night from them that said 'sign me up'

 

 

 

 

[h4wkfan]

Vanderbilt is an excellent PF off the bench. Nothing more.