Final_quest Posted November 3, 2023 Report Share Posted November 3, 2023 A lot of positive trends from everyone right now. If Quin can unlock Hunter, that is something I never expected. I'm even beginning to allow my Hawks inner child to feel some optimism about this team. We are good as is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecampster Posted November 3, 2023 Report Share Posted November 3, 2023 Who I like and who I don't like isn't as simple as good player vs bad. I'm more into players living up to their contract/draft slot. JJ - Greatly exceeding contract, good/great for draft slot. Trae - Living up to draft but underperforming contract right now. If you get alpha contract, you need to give alpha production. Hunter - IMHO didn't earn the contract he got, he's close to living up to it now. He has some bad habits he's breaking and I'm withholding judgement right now. DJ - exceeding contract. CC - underperforming which is why I give him crap. He's fine, but he's not living up to his hype/contract. BB - underperforms contract/hype Bey - better than expected OO - exceeds contract, a bit below draft expectations (due to be undersized). He just has some limitations that he makes up with when giving great effort. Bruno - If he could just stop moving on screens I'd like him a lot more. AJ - Jury is out but he's not a contract liability. I get the feeling he'll figure things out and be a huge win. I don't hate any of them. I love JJ, at times love Trae. at times love DJ. There are times that CC makes me shake my head in disgust but its not hate. I love OO's heart but I know his limitations. BB gives me the biggest emotional swings. DH is the player I want to root for more than any, I really do. I just think he's a great athlete playing basketball, but doesn't have that killer in him. I hope he proves me wrong. If there's anyone on the team I don't like, its Meth Bogi. Garrison Matthews just rubs me wrong. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Atlantaholic Posted November 3, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 3, 2023 14 hours ago, TheNorthCydeRises said: Too bad FiveThirtyEight isn't doing RAPTOR any more. I'd love to see what his RAPTOR rating looks like right now. Would it be comparable to the 2020 - 21 season? They do RAPTOR but RAPTOR needs something like a 20-30 game sample before it exists. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Atlantaholic Posted November 3, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 3, 2023 Bad news for our offense - Most of our guys are gonna stop scoring at 65% TS the way they have been to start the year. Good news for our offense - Trae isn't going to be a 49% TS all season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted November 3, 2023 Moderators Report Share Posted November 3, 2023 I'll admit that Hunter and Capela are the guys i get frustrated with the most at least the last couple of seasons. But we're all just arguing with ourselves on this because no one on the roster can be a 30 minute per game SF. AJ/Bogi/Bey/JJ cannot defend the 3 as a starter as well as Hunter does. Bey is the best we have and he has a lot of things over Hunter but imo he struggles with defense against quicker players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNorthCydeRises Posted November 3, 2023 Report Share Posted November 3, 2023 Props to @Sothron for picking Dre up in fantasy. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hylndr11 Posted November 3, 2023 Report Share Posted November 3, 2023 6 hours ago, thecampster said: Who I like and who I don't like isn't as simple as good player vs bad. I'm more into players living up to their contract/draft slot. JJ - Greatly exceeding contract, good/great for draft slot. Trae - Living up to draft but underperforming contract right now. If you get alpha contract, you need to give alpha production. Hunter - IMHO didn't earn the contract he got, he's close to living up to it now. He has some bad habits he's breaking and I'm withholding judgement right now. DJ - exceeding contract. CC - underperforming which is why I give him crap. He's fine, but he's not living up to his hype/contract. BB - underperforms contract/hype Bey - better than expected OO - exceeds contract, a bit below draft expectations (due to be undersized). He just has some limitations that he makes up with when giving great effort. Bruno - If he could just stop moving on screens I'd like him a lot more. AJ - Jury is out but he's not a contract liability. I get the feeling he'll figure things out and be a huge win. I don't hate any of them. I love JJ, at times love Trae. at times love DJ. There are times that CC makes me shake my head in disgust but its not hate. I love OO's heart but I know his limitations. BB gives me the biggest emotional swings. DH is the player I want to root for more than any, I really do. I just think he's a great athlete playing basketball, but doesn't have that killer in him. I hope he proves me wrong. If there's anyone on the team I don't like, its Meth Bogi. Garrison Matthews just rubs me wrong. u dont like the white guys, we got it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecampster Posted November 3, 2023 Report Share Posted November 3, 2023 3 hours ago, hylndr11 said: u dont like the white guys, we got it LMAO, I am the white guy. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNorthCydeRises Posted November 4, 2023 Report Share Posted November 4, 2023 43 minutes ago, thecampster said: LMAO, I am the white guy. I guess he's going off of the theory that white guys hate white basketball players. Or at least players that come from Duke. Because white guys despise Grayson Allen. And I'll never forget the anger that this guy used to bring to SEC fan bases in the one year he balled out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hylndr11 Posted November 4, 2023 Report Share Posted November 4, 2023 4 hours ago, thecampster said: LMAO, I am the white guy. Reverse racism is not cool bro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecampster Posted November 4, 2023 Report Share Posted November 4, 2023 11 hours ago, TheNorthCydeRises said: I guess he's going off of the theory that white guys hate white basketball players. Or at least players that come from Duke. Because white guys despise Grayson Allen. And I'll never forget the anger that this guy used to bring to SEC fan bases in the one year he balled out. So I absolute hate Grayson Allen so you had me for a second...but then I remembered I really liked Laettner both at Duke and as a Hawk. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecampster Posted November 4, 2023 Report Share Posted November 4, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, hylndr11 said: Reverse racism is not cool bro Crap, I hated B-Rabbit too......there might be something here. Okay, I only hated the name but still. Edited November 4, 2023 by thecampster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Final_quest Posted November 4, 2023 Report Share Posted November 4, 2023 On 11/3/2023 at 9:47 AM, thecampster said: Who I like and who I don't like isn't as simple as good player vs bad. I'm more into players living up to their contract/draft slot. JJ - Greatly exceeding contract, good/great for draft slot. Trae - Living up to draft but underperforming contract right now. If you get alpha contract, you need to give alpha production. Hunter - IMHO didn't earn the contract he got, he's close to living up to it now. He has some bad habits he's breaking and I'm withholding judgement right now. DJ - exceeding contract. CC - underperforming which is why I give him crap. He's fine, but he's not living up to his hype/contract. BB - underperforms contract/hype Bey - better than expected OO - exceeds contract, a bit below draft expectations (due to be undersized). He just has some limitations that he makes up with when giving great effort. Bruno - If he could just stop moving on screens I'd like him a lot more. AJ - Jury is out but he's not a contract liability. I get the feeling he'll figure things out and be a huge win. I don't hate any of them. I love JJ, at times love Trae. at times love DJ. There are times that CC makes me shake my head in disgust but its not hate. I love OO's heart but I know his limitations. BB gives me the biggest emotional swings. DH is the player I want to root for more than any, I really do. I just think he's a great athlete playing basketball, but doesn't have that killer in him. I hope he proves me wrong. If there's anyone on the team I don't like, its Meth Bogi. Garrison Matthews just rubs me wrong. Most of this seems to be based on a reaction to the first five games and not the full assessment of their entire career. Or is this a projection into the future? A question I'm asking is what is the move we could make to move into contender status, but I think we need more time to see what we have. Is the rise of Jalen and unlocking of Murray and Hunter enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted November 4, 2023 Moderators Report Share Posted November 4, 2023 3 hours ago, thecampster said: So I absolute hate Grayson Allen so you had me for a second...but then I remembered I really liked Laettner both at Duke and as a Hawk. I pretty much hate everyone from Duke. Soooo…. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Mule Posted November 4, 2023 Report Share Posted November 4, 2023 Every season, the same question, "How good are the Hawks?" The same answer, "Wait and see!" This season, we believe! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Moderators AHF Posted November 4, 2023 Moderators Report Share Posted November 4, 2023 Keep it all up but especially that 1.4 steals a game. Want to see him as a disruptor this season with blocks, deflections, and steals added to his game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted November 5, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 5, 2023 Hunter's boxscore was sparse in this one, but the defense he played....No complaints from me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted November 5, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 5, 2023 22 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said: Hunter's boxscore was sparse in this one, but the defense he played....No complaints from me. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Vol4ever Posted November 6, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 On 11/4/2023 at 10:21 AM, AHF said: I pretty much hate everyone from Duke. Soooo…. I feel that way about Kentucky. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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