MrMeltdown Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 Payne isn't anti-Josh. He is a big man outside chucker who does not rebound on the level of Josh. Who does not block shots on the level of Josh. He does nothing other than shoot outside shots. Read around the web. He has already been called out by some for trying to be the next stretch four because it is currently sexy in the NBA. He really is not typical of a Michigan State Izzo blue collar guy. I watched him play several times including when they lost in the tournament. The reason they lost in the tournament was because guys like him could not control the paint. He was too caught up in trying to be a soft stretch big Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathan2331 Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 Payne isn't anti-Josh. He is a big man outside chucker who does not rebound on the level of Josh. Who does not block shots on the level of Josh. He does nothing other than shoot outside shots. Read around the web. He has already been called out by some for trying to be the next stretch four because it is currently sexy in the NBA. He really is not typical of a Michigan State Izzo blue collar guy. I watched him play several times including when they lost in the tournament. The reason they lost in the tournament was because guys like him could not control the paint. He was too caught up in trying to be a soft stretch big Even if what you said was 100% true (it's not) he still does what he does at a high level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 Even if what you said was 100% true (it's not) he still does what he does at a high level. Yeah it's not even close to accurate. He wasn't my 1st choice of guys available but he's gonna fit in real well with us. @coachx likes him a lot too and he watches more college ball than probably anyone here. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benhillboy Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 (edited) I especially liked the turnarounds over either shoulder and his awareness of boxing out, as shown by a highlight video. There were supposedly a couple quality wings available in Hood and Harris like Hardaway Jr. last year, but I trust Ferry's judgement in finding guys best for Bud's style. I'm much more concerned with if Bebe, Dennis, and JJ will pay any dividends before Christmas. Edited June 27, 2014 by benhillboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bird_dirt Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 Disappointed...not Paynes talent but because of the redundancy of that position. We need swing men and a center. The one thing we didn't need was a pf. This. I don't hate the guy. I hope he does great and becomes the steal of the draft. I also understand picking bpa, but at this range, I dont think his potential is that much greater than the two picks after him who were positions we needed, not the one position we have two all stars at. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 Ask away. I love this guy as a player and as a person. He does things the right way and is a professional in every sense of the word. I said weeks ago I wouldn't necessarily be a huge fan of the pick if he came to us. I didn't see a defined role because he can play both the 4 and the 5. I assume Brand is gone, so AP can easily come off the bench and give you minutes at PF or C. I am very ecstatic with this selection. Kudos to Ferry. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrReality Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 There are still very good wings on the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Alex Posted June 27, 2014 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 Payne isn't anti-Josh. He is a big man outside chucker who does not rebound on the level of Josh. Who does not block shots on the level of Josh. He does nothing other than shoot outside shots. Read around the web. He has already been called out by some for trying to be the next stretch four because it is currently sexy in the NBA. He really is not typical of a Michigan State Izzo blue collar guy. I watched him play several times including when they lost in the tournament. The reason they lost in the tournament was because guys like him could not control the paint. He was too caught up in trying to be a soft stretch big I will leave you alone. However you are so wrong it's laughable. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruckus Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 Bringing back the baby hook. I can dig it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimeyKidd Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 Robert Horry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermariowest Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 (edited) Payne isn't anti-Josh. He is a big man outside chucker who does not rebound on the level of Josh. Who does not block shots on the level of Josh. He does nothing other than shoot outside shots. Read around the web. He has already been called out by some for trying to be the next stretch four because it is currently sexy in the NBA. He really is not typical of a Michigan State Izzo blue collar guy. I watched him play several times including when they lost in the tournament. The reason they lost in the tournament was because guys like him could not control the paint. He was too caught up in trying to be a soft stretch big Sure, he's a chucker whose career TS% would have ranked in the top 15 of the NBA last year. Same goes for eFG%. I can't say that I've seen him play, but I'll give him a shot. Edited June 27, 2014 by supermariowest 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMeltdown Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 Yeah it's not even close to accurate. He wasn't my 1st choice of guys available but he's gonna fit in real well with us. @coachx likes him a lot too and he watches more college ball than probably anyone here. You don't know how much college ball the next person watches because you are not in the next persons house or space while they are watching whatever they watch. You are simply trying to make your opinions sound more valuable than they are as usual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 You don't know how much college ball the next person watches because you are not in the next persons house or space while they are watching whatever they watch. You are simply trying to make your opinions sound more valuable than they are as usual Well when it comes to you yes I know my opinions are more accurate than yours. Hey go work on your trading 5 1st round picks for a single player again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMeltdown Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 Well when it comes to you yes I know my opinions are more accurate than yours. Hey go work on your trading 5 1st round picks for a single player again. Your opinions have zero accuracy as usual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 Your opinions have zero accuracy as usual Go have another meltdown. I have no time for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoostal Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 This thread is starting to get real good. I'm going to get some popcorn. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMeltdown Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 Go have another meltdown. I have no time for you. You should have never addressed me one on one if you didn't have the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 You should have never addressed me one on one if you didn't have the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperXX79 Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 Go have another meltdown. I have no time for you. Just wondering but is there an ignore feature on here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted June 27, 2014 Report Share Posted June 27, 2014 Just wondering but is there an ignore feature on here? Yes sir - http://hawksquawk.net/community/index.php?app=core&module=usercp&tab=core&area=ignoredusers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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