Official 2019 Draft thread

[JayBirdHawk]

 

 

 

 

[gurpilo]

hace 8 minutos, pimp dijo:

i meant Cam will move up in the draft

I am beginning to have same feeling 

[Spud2nique]

5 hours ago, AHF said:

I'm on board!

Replace Bruno with Kabengele and it’s perfect!  

[bleachkit]

Would Culver play small forward for us? We already have Kevin at the 2.

[kg01]

Culver to the Hawks, you say?

[Peoriabird]

16 minutes ago, bleachkit said:

Would Culver play small forward for us? We already have Kevin at the 2.

Smoke screen!

[Eddielives]

I listened to the Locked on Hawks podcast and this was the host's opinion/hope for the Hawks.  He thinks Culver is the 3rd best player in this draft and can play the 3.

[High5]

Culver seems like a safe kinda pick to me. Which is fine, but if we went that route I'd hope to keep the 10th pick to swing for the fences on someone else. Sekou is really interesting.

[thecampster]

Sekou at 10 > trading for Culver.  There is no way we are trading assets for Culver.  

http://nbasense.com/draft-pick-trade-value/2/kevin-pelton-2

Let me shorten it based on values.

8+10 = 2

8+17 = 3

10+17 = 3-4

I accept this chart is flawed.  But it also depends on how the draft year is viewed.

https://fansided.com/2016/06/16/nba-draft-trade-value-chart/  looking at this chart

8+10 = 2

8+17 = 3

10+17 = 4

and then there's this https://www.dangerc.art/blog/2018-nba-draft-pick-value-card

8+10 = 2

8+17 = 3

10+17 = 4

 

Pretty consistent value sets.  I'll accept the charts are flawed right out of the gate.  Remember there is more than just "how good the player is". There is the salary cap impact, risk, age, etc.  However the idea we'd be trading 8+10 for 5 is highway robbery.  The only place these charts are way off is in how they value #1,2 .  1 and 2 hold significantly more value than they state here in ticket sales alone and hype.

 

At 10 you can get Sekou who may end up a better player than Culver and get Hayes or better yet one of the point guards or Nassir Little may fall there.  Sekou + Hayes > Culver.  8+17+ a second I'll buy....8+10..no way. That's too much for 5.

 

[Eddielives]

One think is for sure about Sekou.  He's going to be a project with a pretty high risk factor.  I think he may fall to the 12-18 range based on that alone.  He is exciting about what he "could" be though.

[Marvin24Williams]

Trade up for Culver or Cam is fine with me as long as we walk away with 10 or 17, preferably 10 of course. Would love to get Sekou with that pick.

[Eddielives]

Just my baseless assertion here but I think we are going to end up with Culver and Bitadze as our first round picks.  In fact, put me on the board with my prediction!!

[warcore]

I really like Culver but I don't want to give up assets for him, especially if there's a slim chance he could fall to us naturally. Like others have said, Cam might be moving up. Weird things happen in drafts and teams sometimes take surprisingly bad picks. I say let the chips fall and take whichever of Cam/Culver/Hunter falls to us and keep our assets. 

Plus, Huerter is a 2 as is Culver. 

[txsting]

1 hour ago, thecampster said:

Sekou at 10 > trading for Culver.  There is no way we are trading assets for Culver.  

http://nbasense.com/draft-pick-trade-value/2/kevin-pelton-2

Let me shorten it based on values.

8+10 = 2

8+17 = 3

10+17 = 3-4

I accept this chart is flawed.  But it also depends on how the draft year is viewed.

https://fansided.com/2016/06/16/nba-draft-trade-value-chart/  looking at this chart

8+10 = 2

8+17 = 3

10+17 = 4

and then there's this https://www.dangerc.art/blog/2018-nba-draft-pick-value-card

8+10 = 2

8+17 = 3

10+17 = 4

 

Pretty consistent value sets.  I'll accept the charts are flawed right out of the gate.  Remember there is more than just "how good the player is". There is the salary cap impact, risk, age, etc.  However the idea we'd be trading 8+10 for 5 is highway robbery.  The only place these charts are way off is in how they value #1,2 .  1 and 2 hold significantly more value than they state here in ticket sales alone and hype.

 

At 10 you can get Sekou who may end up a better player than Culver and get Hayes or better yet one of the point guards or Nassir Little may fall there.  Sekou + Hayes > Culver.  8+17+ a second I'll buy....8+10..no way. That's too much for 5.

 

The other thing to consider, if your trade partner is the Cavs, is the pick we have coming back from them.  We really want that to be a low lottery pick.  Kicking the Cavs a little extra value might pay off in another first rounder next year.  It would suck for that pick to convert to two second rounders.

 

[NBASupes]

1 hour ago, Eddielives said:

I listened to the Locked on Hawks podcast and this was the host's opinion/hope for the Hawks.  He thinks Culver is the 3rd best player in this draft and can play the 3.

People who love him love him. People like me who don't, don't. He is not in my top 10 prospects in this class. 

[NBASupes]

He by technicalities is but not as high as others for me like Clarke and Cam for example. I honestly like Little more.

[NBASupes]

2 hours ago, bleachkit said:

Would Culver play small forward for us? We already have Kevin at the 2.

Lol! It would be a clown show. I honestly like him as a backup 2. Starting him, I'll be pissed and I would question Travis for the first time. He is a 2. If anything a combo guard.

[DBac]

Lurked on RealGM and caught wind that this place is back. About time.

 

ESPN live mock draft had us taking Hayes at #8 and Keldon at #10. I'd throw up.

 

 

[warcore]

Are the Hawks even going to work out Culver??? 

[NBASupes]

12 minutes ago, warcore said:

Are the Hawks even going to work out Culver??? 

No. We aren't on his list.