Official Game Thread: Hawks at Raptors

[Gray Mule]

@JayBirdHawk listed some things this Hawk team needs.  Experience.  That is our biggest need, both by our current youth on the floor and our head coach.

We all have lots of wants and wishes.  We are continually missing vital parts of our current team.  I don't believe we have ever had 100% of our roster available this season.

Trading for a new center has been widely discussed.  This summer's draft is also on our mind.  I've read that there are very few of the expected great players in the upcoming draft but that there are a great lot of those good players.

Hawks sacrificed this season for the future.  Don't forget that.  We didn't really want those three players that we had with their great big $$$ payroll figures.  We knew, however, their contracts would end with the end of the season.  None of the three have out played our second round pick.

"Lord, give me patience and give it to me now!"  

We knew, going in, rebuilding from the ground up wouldn't be easy.  We had no solid foundation of veteran players to build on.  Still don't.  What we do before the trade deadline, what we do this summer in free agency, in the trades and the draft will determine our future.  This is all in our future.

Don't panic.  Changes are coming.  Some may not work.  Others will.  I'm tired of losing.  But, when we do win, it's always so great.  Makes all of us appreciate the feeling it gives us.  More of that coming in the future than in the past.  Remember, just one more win and we've tied that 13 win season total.  After that, it's all great !!

[terrell]

16 hours ago, AHF said:

Looking forward to Teague’s first good game with us where he looks starter worthy.  We’ve gotten too much of the Teague I was not sorry to see go.

Might have to draft a PG for the bench afterall..

[AHF]

11 minutes ago, terrell said:

Might have to draft a PG for the bench afterall..

Well, when you are getting a half season trial for the price of Allen Crabbe, you are getting it for free.  If we have to use the Brooklyn pick or go find a FA, so be it.  At least we'll know a lot more about his status and the fit.

[macdaddy]

Teague has been alright.  his per36 with the Hawks is 10/8.  He's averaging almost 5 assists/game in limited time. 

[Vol4ever]

Supes might have better info but I don't think any trade for a center will be made at the deadline.  

[Atlantaholic]

6 minutes ago, macdaddy said:

Teague has been alright.  his per36 with the Hawks is 10/8.  He's averaging almost 5 assists/game in limited time. 

Trae has been booty sweat. If he plays like this the entire year there is zero chance we make the slightest attempt at keeping him. Maybe that's his plan???

[Atlantaholic]

1 hour ago, AHF said:

Well, when you are getting a half season trial for the price of Allen Crabbe, you are getting it for free.  If we have to use the Brooklyn pick or go find a FA, so be it.  At least we'll know a lot more about his status and the fit.

Agreed, we got Teague for absolutely free so whatever. If he doesn't work out, he doesn't work out, and we are exactly where we would be if we hadn't made the move to begin with. 

[macdaddy]

2 minutes ago, Atlantaholic said:

Trae has been booty sweat. If he plays like this the entire year there is zero chance we make the slightest attempt at keeping him. Maybe that's his plan???

You may want to fix your typo!!!!!!

[Vol4ever]

34 minutes ago, Atlantaholic said:

Trae has been booty sweat. If he plays like this the entire year there is zero chance we make the slightest attempt at keeping him. Maybe that's his plan???

You not watching the games?   Teague has spread the ball around to all the players on the court.  He could be averaging 16 pts a game but he is helping the youngins.  

[kg01]

2 hours ago, AHF said:

Well, when you are getting a half season trial for the price of Allen Crabbe, you are getting it for free.  If we have to use the Brooklyn pick or go find a FA, so be it.  At least we'll know a lot more about his status and the fit.

Anything is better than watching Allen Crappe ... (pause for applause)....  'bad body language' his way to mediocre results every night.

[terrell]

1 hour ago, Vol4ever said:

Supes might have better info but I don't think any trade for a center will be made at the deadline.  

What makes you say that?

[Vol4ever]

3 minutes ago, terrell said:

What makes you say that?

Trade talks are stalling and the NBA beat writers are already reporting this is my basis.  I believe TS is trying but he dont want to give what the Thunder wants for Adam's.  The Thinder are winning and in playoff contention so they are not inclined to trade Adam's.  The Thinder want to move Gallo first and foremost because he is 31, big salary,  and injury prone, Adam's is 26 and plays most of the games.  

[Atlantaholic]

2 hours ago, Vol4ever said:

You not watching the games?   Teague has spread the ball around to all the players on the court.  He could be averaging 16 pts a game but he is helping the youngins.  

He's been horrid... not that it's completely his fault. He is often out there with another PG and Teague can't play off the ball, never could. People forget we tried it in stretches with Schröder and Teague and those lineups were always a failure. 

[macdaddy]

I feel like the criticism of Teague is based entirely on that he hasn't scored much.   So far he's looked exactly like Jeff Teague to me.  Jeff Teague surrounded by a bunch of guys he's never played with before.  Not sure what we were expecting. 

[AHF]

14 minutes ago, macdaddy said:

I feel like the criticism of Teague is based entirely on that he hasn't scored much.   So far he's looked exactly like Jeff Teague to me.  Jeff Teague surrounded by a bunch of guys he's never played with before.  Not sure what we were expecting. 

I don't find a lot of value in a non-assertive Jeff Teague.  His lack of aggression was the main reason I was fine going with Dennis and trading him for Prince.  

We could badly use a scoring threat at PG off the bench and so far in Atlanta he is shooting less often and less accurately (at least per FG%) than any season in his career so far.  SSS for sure so the point of him being in a new situation is fair but it isn't just the raw shots either.  It is also that he is avoiding contact right now with his FT rate dropping from 5.5 FTA/36 in Minnesota to 1.7 FTA/36 here.  That results in a drop from his normal ~17 points/36 to an anemic 10.7 pp36.  (Goodwin is 17.9 pp36 by comparison).

So we need more from him.  Hopefully we will get exactly that once he gets comfortable.  It is early after all.  

[JayBirdHawk]

16 minutes ago, macdaddy said:

I feel like the criticism of Teague is based entirely on that he hasn't scored much.   So far he's looked exactly like Jeff Teague to me.  Jeff Teague surrounded by a bunch of guys he's never played with before.  Not sure what we were expecting. 

I'll give him a pass on no practice and unfamiliarity with teammates but I see the same flaws. 

He's hesitant to shoot when open and not aggressive. He's also been playing offguard and not so much running point.

[AHF]

2 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

I'll give him a pass on no practice and unfamiliarity with teammates but I see the same flaws. 

He's hesitant to shoot when open and not aggressive. He's also been playing offguard and not so much running point.

He has never been good at this.