2023-24 Insider Information Thread

[JTB]

7 minutes ago, LucastheThird said:

I am no GM or insider, but a framework like this works for all 3 teams. 

 

IF it happens I hope that’s all we are giving up but I think TWolves want something like this.

 

[LucastheThird]

Just now, JTB said:

IF it happens I hope that’s all we are giving up but I think TWolves want something like this.

 

I doubt they want OO. He's a Center, and they already have Gobert and just resigned Naz Reid. 

[kg01]

24 minutes ago, shakes said:

at least with Zion the clues weren't nearly as blatant and slapping everyone in the face like they were with Cam.  

I dont disagree the flags were there on Cam.  In fact, they were ..... reddish. 

(Pause for applause)

But the flags were and are there on Zion too.  Folks just got caught up in the dunx. 

[terrell]

14 minutes ago, JTB said:

IF it happens I hope that’s all we are giving up but I think TWolves want something like this.

 

Again, why would they want OO, with Gobert and Naz Reid there? They just paid Reid, and Gobert makes 40 million...

Edited June 28, 2023 by terrell

[bleachkit]

38 minutes ago, GameTime said:

So is KAT to ATL likely?

No

[bleachkit]

16 minutes ago, JTB said:

IF it happens I hope that’s all we are giving up but I think TWolves want something like this.

 

Dude, they are not trading KAT unless two and probably three FRPs are coming back. 

[NekiEcko]

2 minutes ago, bleachkit said:

No

Ummm........No comment on that one.  Since you are a insider now, @bleachkit, what you think the Hawks should do

But there is some smoke right now

Edited June 28, 2023 by NekiEcko

[JTB]

18 minutes ago, LucastheThird said:

I doubt they want OO. He's a Center, and they already have Gobert and just resigned Naz Reid. 

 

6 minutes ago, terrell said:

Again, why would they want OO, with Gobert and Naz Reid there? They just paid Reid, and Gobert makes 40 million...

I forgot about Reid recent extension. Good point! Unless they see OO as a primary PF.

[AHF]

3 minutes ago, bleachkit said:

Dude, they are not trading KAT unless two and probably three FRPs are coming back. 

If we were going to do this, you could do something like Hunter and CC going out with Houston and Atlanta kicking first round picks to Minnesota with CC going to Houston and Hunter to Minnesota.  You then have a big hole on defense without Hunter but you are looking at something like:

Trae / DM  

DM / Bogi / KB / AJ

AJ / Bey / Bogi

OO / JJ

KAT / OO

You have to get another frontcourt big or two (maybe Bruno is returning but our rookie won't be ready).  

[ShooterSays]

Trae / Murray / Bey / JJ / KAT 

This would be a offensive lineup tho!

Just make sure you pretend defense isn’t a thing when you’re thinking about this lol

[JeffS17]

Getting KAT right now -- while enticing -- is probably very premature.  We need to let Quin work with the roster, develop the young guys AND develop the veterans, where possible.  This next year is largely going to be a reset year, a developmental year, where we lay the foundation for the future.  Trying to craft a roster that can contend in '23-24 is fools gold imo.

[TheNorthCydeRises]

39 minutes ago, JTB said:

Trae, Murray, KAT

Thats a recipe of top 5 offense in the league but what about defense ??? 
 

I want KAT but man ….you can’t ignore the defensive side with moves like this.

 

Pick up a defensive 3 and a defensive 4 in free agency

This is where a Jae Crowder makes perfect sense to add to the team.  Dillon Brooks could possibly be in play as well.

[theheroatl]

46 minutes ago, JTB said:

IF it happens I hope that’s all we are giving up but I think TWolves want something like this.

 

That is gross

[JTB]

2 minutes ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

 

Pick up a defensive 3 and a defensive 4 in free agency

This is where a Jae Crowder makes perfect sense to add to the team.  Dillon Brooks could possibly be in play as well.

Now that I’ve been reminded that Reid has recently extended @AHF I believe has the most realistic scenario if any KAT trade went down assuming minny would want picks back as @GameTime stated.

But I think you bring up a great point with Crowder and especially Brooks. I believe we’d have some cap space left to sign a defender like Brooks who could jump right in at the 3.

[JTB]

1 minute ago, theheroatl said:

That is gross

Yes I was reminded Reid was recently resigned with Minney so you can take out OO from this trade deal and add some draft picks.

[AHF]

26 minutes ago, JeffS17 said:

Getting KAT right now -- while enticing -- is probably very premature.  We need to let Quin work with the roster, develop the young guys AND develop the veterans, where possible.  This next year is largely going to be a reset year, a developmental year, where we lay the foundation for the future.  Trying to craft a roster that can contend in '23-24 is fools gold imo.

I'm going to disagree with this.  A big part of the reason for Quin coming in was so he could get a good look at the roster.  If he thinks we need change, then I'm good with that.  So I'm not saying that a trade for KAT is the right move (and realistically it depends on what trade for KAT in my book) but I don't see any reason to wait if you have an opportunity to make a move that Landry and Quin think is the right move.  There is no need to wait until Quin has spent a full year with the team - make the move now and then let Quin do exactly what you are saying with the players that our GM and Coach have identified as the foundation for the future.  That foundation doesn't have to be grown in-house.

[ABH]

2 hours ago, marco102 said:

Brad Rowland brought that up in his podcast.  That'll be something if he comes back, but I don't see it happening. 

Do it..this is the way

[JustSomeGuy]

@Watchman i don’t understand your commentary. Under what scenario do we not need veterans? And you’re saying you’d rather overpay unproductive players than let them go if they aren’t contributing to winning?  

And in what world is valuing your own homegrown All-NBA player an overpay, especially compared to attracting someone else’s talent?

I can understand if you don’t have confidence in the FO to make the right choices, but you can’t argue against the logic in either the selective investment or the salary dump.

[Sothron]

2 hours ago, Spud2nique said:

@Sothron How far can Trae, KAT and DM go next year in your opinion.

Round 2? Eastern finals? NBA finals?

If health is not an issue and the rest of the team plays to what it should I can see that trio going to and winning a Finals. The coaching is there, the talent would be there and hopefully the supporting cast would be there as well.

[JayBirdHawk]

20 hours ago, NBASupes said:

I live in the Houston Area specifically in the same area as Harden and I haven't heard anything to make me think James isn't coming to HOU. I heard that Philly wants him back but I know people close to him as we stay in the same part of town strongly claim he's coming back (home). Maybe he doesn't but I believe he will.

Thoughts?

Rockets out of the running for James Harden?

The Houston Rockets are believed to be “out of the running” when it comes to 2023 NBA free agency negotiations with Philadelphia 76ers superstar James Harden, reports Kelly Iko of The Athletic. “In recent days, I’ve understood that Houston is no longer an option for James,” Iko said in a Twitter live stream on Wednesday. “I would call them out of the running,” Iko added. “James was never interested in taking some kind of discount two years in a row. He made, what, $34-35 million this year? He could stand to make 50 to 52 (million). He was not going to take a discount, and the Rockets were never going to pay him that kind of max money.”

 

– via Ben DuBose @ Rockets Wire