bleachkit Posted September 7, 2020 Report Share Posted September 7, 2020 23 minutes ago, marco102 said: Um, I don't know how I feel about this. I like Antman, but Kevin is more valuable right now to me. If Hawks like Culver that's about as good a deal as you're going to get to move to #1. The 2021 pick has a top 7 protection so that cushions the blow of losing that pick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted September 7, 2020 Report Share Posted September 7, 2020 Just now, JayBirdHawk said: What's the major difference between Vassell and Okoro? Vassell is better shooter. Okoro is more freakish athlete. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted September 7, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted September 7, 2020 Just now, bleachkit said: Vassell is better shooter. Okoro is more freakish athlete. Which one is the better playmaker? I dont want a guy who doesn't have at least a decent handle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted September 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said: Which one is the better playmaker? I dont want a guy who doesn't have at least a decent handle. Okoro and it's not close. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Dean Walker Posted September 7, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted September 7, 2020 On 9/4/2020 at 2:15 PM, bleachkit said: If we draft Halliburton, then Kevin probably gets traded or has his role diminished. Totally agree, I just don’t see how it could work Long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Dean Walker Posted September 7, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted September 7, 2020 1 hour ago, bleachkit said: They had an NBA mock draft on Twitter and Hawks traded to number #1. It went like like this, Hawks get #1 and Jarrett Culver, T-wolves get #6, #50, Kevin Heurter, Bembry, and a top 7 protected 2021 1st round pick. No way I’m trading our 2021 1st protected or not. no way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parfait Posted September 7, 2020 Report Share Posted September 7, 2020 5 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said: What's the major difference between Vassell and Okoro? The scary good thing about Okoro is that he pretty much comes equipped with everything BUT a reliable shot. He's got a real good handle. He's got great passing vision. He can penetrate. He's an elite finisher, with either hand. And of course he's a shut-down corner. Oh by the way, he's also got the motor and work ethic to develop his shot. Vassell doesn't have much of a handle, and therefore doesn't have much penetrating ability. But he's a top-tier team defender. Thus, some of his fans describe him as a poor-man's Klay Thompson. But Klay might be one of the greatest shooters of all time. So I see Vassell's peak outcome as a Kris Middleton, which would be real good, but not nearly the ceiling that Okoro has in my opinion. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Dean Walker Posted September 8, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 I’m all in on vassell/okoro rn. Do not want Haliburton at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunt91 Posted September 8, 2020 Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Dean Walker said: I’m all in on vassell/okoro rn. Do not want Haliburton at all. I don't think it is wise to spend a top 10 lottery pick on a Backup PG. I have it down to Toppin, Okoro or Okungwu if we stay at #6. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLHawks3 Posted September 8, 2020 Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, Blunt91 said: I don't think it is wise to spend a top 10 lottery pick on a Backup PG. I have it down to Toppin, Okoro or Okungwu if we stay at #6. My Big Board at 6 if they're available 1. Okoro 2. Avdija 3. Okongwu 4. Toppin 5. Vassell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Dean Walker Posted September 8, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 30 minutes ago, Blunt91 said: I don't think it is wise to spend a top 10 lottery pick on a Backup PG. I have it down to Toppin, Okoro or Okungwu if we stay at #6. Yep exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Dean Walker Posted September 8, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 22 minutes ago, ATLHawks3 said: My Big Board at 6 if they're available 1. Okoro 2. Avdija 3. Okongwu 4. Toppin 5. Vassell Switch Deni with Okongwu and That’s pretty much my big board also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parfait Posted September 8, 2020 Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 Pretty much the same 5 for me. Although, I kinda hope Avdija is gone so we don't have to consider him. It's mainly Okoro, Toppin, or Vassell for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Dean Walker Posted September 8, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 9 hours ago, parfait said: Pretty much the same 5 for me. Although, I kinda hope Avdija is gone so we don't have to consider him. It's mainly Okoro, Toppin, or Vassell for me. Yeah I’m not that high on Deni also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Mule Posted September 8, 2020 Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 1- Who do we want? 2- Who do we need? Personally, I believe the Hawks greatest need is a back up PG. Therefore I want Tyrese Haliburton... What happened last season when Trae was out? Usually, nothing. Can't have nothing time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted September 8, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 12 hours ago, Blunt91 said: I don't think it is wise to spend a top 10 lottery pick on a Backup PG. I have it down to Toppin, Okoro or Okungwu if we stay at #6. Whoever we draft at #6 will be a backup next season. Now we know that Trae is entrenched as out starting PG of the future and any pg we take have less of a chance of supplanting him as the starter going forward. Can any of the other position players be good enough to eventually overtake one of our incumbments as the starter in year #2? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parfait Posted September 8, 2020 Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 14 hours ago, Dean Walker said: I’m all in on vassell/okoro rn. Do not want Haliburton at all. Totally agree with this. Open to Obi also. But Hal No to Haliburton! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parfait Posted September 8, 2020 Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said: Whoever we draft at #6 will be a backup next season. Now we know that Trae is entrenched as out starting PG of the future and any pg we take have less of a chance of supplanting him as the starter going forward. Can any of the other position players be good enough to eventually overtake one of our incumbments as the starter in year #2? I think Okoro or Vassell could claim the SF spot within a year or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco102 Posted September 8, 2020 Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, Gray Mule said: 1- Who do we want? 2- Who do we need? Personally, I believe the Hawks greatest need is a back up PG. Therefore I want Tyrese Haliburton... What happened last season when Trae was out? Usually, nothing. Can't have nothing time. What makes you want Haliburton over Hayes? I lean towards Hayes due to his better size, similar playmaking, and his free throw percentage leads me to believe he'll be a good shooter. I've started to like Okoro the more I watch his scouting reports. His shot isn't broken, but it needs some work. The free throw shooting scares me a bit too. Just now, parfait said: I think Okoro or Vassell could claim the SF spot within a year or two. I don't see that. They both will be backups their first two years. Kevin, Cam, and Hunter improvement will probably make them a backup. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Dean Walker Posted September 8, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 22 minutes ago, parfait said: I think Okoro or Vassell could claim the SF spot within a year or two. Over hunter?? Idk man. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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