My guy has talked around NBA circles of late

[Peoriabird]

2 hours ago, NBASupes said:

Bogi has been shopped and offered to several teams. As of right now, no update on his front. 

 

I need details!!!!

[terrell]

2 hours ago, Spud2nique said:

My condolences to your father @terrell. Basketball is sport but it’s not life. RIP to him.

Yeah this pic was from a few years ago, at another family menbers funeral no less....Deandre was playing for the Texans then...We used to travel as a family to all of his games in Jacksonville and Tennesse every year...So of course we hated when he was traded out West. .My profile pic was actually taken in Houston.. I flew out there once to see him...... My dad loved himself some Nuk.......He kinda took on a father figure role(he was his great uncle), when Deandre's father passed away suddenly in car accident when Nuk was a baby.. He attended EVERY game at Clemson, and most of his high school games....He was retired so he could do that.. lol.. Thanks for all of the condolences everyone..................

Edited January 19, 2022 by terrell

[Watchman]

1 minute ago, Peoriabird said:

I need details!!!!

Teams felt like offering a bag of chips and a 2 liter cola for Bogi were a good enough offer.

[JTB]

13 minutes ago, Peoriabird said:

I just don't see it.  The Hawks have enough non shooters in the starting line up already with Capela and Bogi.  Now you want to add Simmons to the mix?  Plus he isn't a rebounder either.  I don't like it one bit

Yeah I don’t disagree with you on this point of view offensively.

They replace collins  with Simmons it’s for damn sure going to be an experiment the rest of the season offensively with Simmons and Capela on the floor . Defensively I believe it may be an upgrade because Simmons is better than collins defensively though we all have to give collins props on improving big time defensively….collins definitely has not been the problem defensively this season when he’s not guarding players a lot bigger than him.

offensively though collins as our second best player hasn’t been the fix to the offense when Trae sits either… despite being extremely efficient.  
 

I would rather find a way to keep Collins and pair him with Simmons honestly.

[Peoriabird]

8 minutes ago, JTB said:

Yeah I don’t disagree with you on this point of view offensively.

They replace collins  with Simmons it’s for damn sure going to be an experiment the rest of the season offensively with Simmons and Capela on the floor . Defensively I believe it may be an upgrade because Simmons is better than collins defensively though we all have to give collins props on improving big time defensively….collins definitely has not been the problem defensively this season when he’s not guarding players a lot bigger than him.

offensively though collins as our second best player hasn’t been the fix to the offense when Trae sits either… despite being extremely efficient.  
 

I would rather find a way to keep Collins and pair him with Simmons honestly.

The Hawks already are an average to below average rebounding team with Collins.  Simmons make the Hawk much worse

[Watchman]

4 minutes ago, JTB said:

Yeah I don’t disagree with you on this point of view offensively.

They replace collins  with Simmons it’s for damn sure going to be an experiment the rest of the season offensively with Simmons and Capela on the floor . Defensively I believe it may be an upgrade because Simmons is better than collins defensively though we all have to give collins props on improving big time defensively….collins definitely has not been the problem defensively this season when he’s not guarding players a lot bigger than him.

offensively though collins as our second best player hasn’t been the fix to the offense when Trae sits either… despite being extremely efficient.  
 

I would rather find a way to keep Collins and pair him with Simmons honestly.

I would rather keep Collins and skip Simmons.  We already have enough players who can't shoot.

[kg01]

Smelltics 'eggsplorin' values on Richardson, Smart, and other low-value dudes.

Any takers?

[ShooterSays]

Really really hope we don’t trade Collins for Simmons. Didn’t we expose him last year in the playoffs? We all would have laughed out loud if this deal had been proposed after game 7.

[JeffS17]

26 minutes ago, Peoriabird said:

The Hawks already are an average to below average rebounding team with Collins.  Simmons make the Hawk much worse

Possibly, if we have a perimeter defender that doesn't require Capela's help, it could free him up to get more boards.  Always pisses me off when everyone lets their man go by and Capela picks him up and the other teams PF and C crash the boards.  Capela can't rim protect and get every rebound.  Anyways, just made me think of that, I'm not even really disagreeing with you, just wondering how that might play out.

[bleachkit]

18 minutes ago, ShooterSays said:

Really really hope we don’t trade Collins for Simmons. Didn’t we expose him last year in the playoffs? We all would have laughed out loud if this deal had been proposed after game 7.

There is a lot of risk in trading for Simmons. Both personality wise and his inability to shoot. Schlenk's legacy would no doubt be on the line. A less costly trade for a guy like Barnes or Grant is more feasible.

[hazer]

1 hour ago, GameTime said:

Is Chris Haynes the new Trae Young mouthpiece?

 

ATL ain’t a “small market”, we’re Top 10 NBA market:

https://hoop-social.com/nba-team-market-size-rankings/

[hazer]

24 minutes ago, kg01 said:

Smelltics 'eggsplorin' values on Richardson, Smart, and other low-value dudes.

Any takers?

I’ll take Smart(ass), dude is a thorn

[High5]

55 minutes ago, Peoriabird said:

The Hawks have enough non shooters in the starting line up already with Capela and Bogi.

You’re hilarious. Never change.

Edited January 19, 2022 by High5

[Peoriabird]

5 minutes ago, JeffS17 said:

Possibly, if we have a perimeter defender that doesn't require Capela's help, it could free him up to get more boards.  Always pisses me off when everyone lets their man go by and Capela picks him up and the other teams PF and C crash the boards.  Capela can't rim protect and get every rebound.  Anyways, just made me think of that, I'm not even really disagreeing with you, just wondering how that might play out.

But Simmons can't check everyone.  You will still have Bogi or Huerter guarding someone

[hazer]

5 minutes ago, High5 said:

You’re hilarious. Never change.

I was wondering if I was the only one who caught that

[JeffS17]

8 minutes ago, Peoriabird said:

But Simmons can't check everyone.  You will still have Bogi or Huerter guarding someone

Yeah, completely depends on who we have left after the trade and what our lineups look like.  

[MarylandHawk]

1 hour ago, JTB said:

Damn Trae may want to address this publicly. Chris made Trae seem like a straight up stuck up asshole. I don’t think that’s how Trae approached the front office “demanding things”…I seriously doubt that. He probably gave his opinion and it was probably a strong opinion and perhaps it included some players he’d like to see in ATL…..but “demanding things” nah not at this stage.

Chris is probably taking demanding out of context and the kid just really want to win. 
 

the part about Trae playing more off ball sounds like a Schlenk thing.

It’s pure speculation based on the information he is hearing. He is putting it in the context that everyone understands and responds to.  If Trae wanted to play off the ball it would have happened in a heart beat. I think his dad and the coaches realize that is the best path to winning and Trae’s dad knows he can do that very well too.  Trae needs to feel like the team can be successful doing it that way and he needs time to adjust his mentality. Its hard when he knows there is nobody that can stop him when he has the ball in his hands.  This is where someone like Simmons could really make a difference. Simmons would initiate the fast break much better than Trae. Also, in the half court, they could run the triangle offense through Ben that gets him closer to the basket but still allows him to pass out of the triangle. Trae would be confident the Ben will find him when he is off the ball. Of course 4th quarters wont be a problem because Trae could just take over. 

[Watchman]

35 minutes ago, JeffS17 said:

Possibly, if we have a perimeter defender that doesn't require Capela's help, it could free him up to get more boards.  Always pisses me off when everyone lets their man go by and Capela picks him up and the other teams PF and C crash the boards.  Capela can't rim protect and get every rebound.  Anyways, just made me think of that, I'm not even really disagreeing with you, just wondering how that might play out.

It seems to me that Capella, more often than not, just watches the other team's player drive to the basket, and he makes no move to switch or help.

[Sothron]

1 hour ago, JeffS17 said:

I don't even disagree with that analysis though -- Trae being able to play offball more and find catch and shoot opportunities will make us better.  I'd love for @NBASupes or @thecampster or @Sothron to comment on the tone though.  Maybe Trae is being a big diva right now but I doubt it... I also question if Trae would be happy shipping Hunter out.  As weird as it sounds, I get the feeling he wouldn't mind JC being traded.

I believe I was the first one with sources to mention that Trae is actively talking to Travis about improving the team and he has a list of players. Chris Haynes is 100% legit. Every thing he said matches up to my source except for I think some context. Trae is not a diva. He wants to win games and win rings IN Atlanta. He has zero interest in leaving. He believes if they get him a guy where he can come off the ball more (his dad said the same thing) and catch and shoot it will raise this team to another level.

And the biggest name that can do that  is Ben Simmons. I have been playing Ben and Trae in the backcourt with Trae as the SG and holy moses is that team unbeatable in 2k. Yes, yes I know it is 2k. But what they do together would blend so well. Ben has the ball and attacks the basket. Defense collapses to help him...and oh hey is that Trae with a wide open three? We can stagger minutes to let them each have time running the offense.

I told you guys Trae was talking serious with Travis. He wants this team to be improved. Atlanta is not a free agent destination so they need to make some trades to get some bodies in here. This isn't Trae trying to run the Hawks. He just wants HELP and another ball handler/shot creator that will take some of the pressure off him to expend all his energy on offense and have little on defense. 

[Spud2nique]

1 hour ago, kg01 said:

Smart

I’ve had a love/hate relationship with him. He’s a dog though, so is Jaylen, at the right price sure, why not. 

ps I love our core though