My guy has talked around NBA circles of late

[NBASupes]

1 hour ago, LucastheThird said:

If N.O. accepts Randle + Grimes + 1st for Zion, then they are flat out stupid. That does nothing but help the Knicks sell out MSG every home game with the Duke 3 playing together. 

 

Randle has been exposed in the NBA and should never be the headline of a trade package. *IF* Zion is healthy and we make an attempt, we can give a monumentally better package. 

Randle has negative value right now and and a Zion move will be very costly to anyone who wants in. 

[AHF]

1 minute ago, NBASupes said:

I've avoided any Zion to anywhere news still he gets a clean bill of health. That's easier said than done. 

Likelihood is very small that he gets a clean bill of health anytime soon.  The real interesting trade time is before his health situation is clarified.  He still has the potential to be healthy or damaged goods right now which means that a clarified situation where he is long-term damaged goods is off the table.  But any team trading for him does it with a ton of red flags.  Just really interesting.  

[TheNorthCydeRises]

2 hours ago, LucastheThird said:

It's that slow time after All Star Weekend, let's have a bit of fun. 

 

Assuming he has a clean bill of health (foot is completely healed and he's already losing weight)

 

What would your trade package look like for Zion?

It would have to be a ton of draft picks, seeing that Zion is still on his rookie deal.  They would probably at minimum want Collins + about 3 - 4 draft picks.

[hylndr11]

Do we even know.how bad zion wants.to play NBA ball? Not really.

Edited February 22, 2022 by hylndr11

[LucastheThird]

1 minute ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

It would have to be a ton of draft picks, seeing that Zion is still on his rookie deal.  They would probably at minimum want Collins + about 3 - 4 draft picks.

I wouldn't be against it as long as Zion is healthy. I'm as big of a JC fan here as anyone, but Zion is another superstar and I don't see JC ever breaking that ceiling. 

[NBASupes]

1 minute ago, AHF said:

Likelihood is very small that he gets a clean bill of health anytime soon.  The real interesting trade time is before his health situation is clarified.  He still has the potential to be healthy or damaged goods right now which means that a clarified situation where he is long-term damaged goods is off the table.  But any team trading for him does it with a ton of red flags.  Just really interesting.  

That's what the news I've heard is as well. The price tag is not matching his health status. Till they come closer, don't just expect Zion to be traded but I am hearing they are strongly leaning to moving him. Zion stubbornly is open to KPing and doing a one year deal to get out of NO in two years. KP trade value was reasonable, unless Zion becomes reasonable, it's going to be hard to see a deal being done. 

Atlanta had talks with them during the deadline but health and trade value was a major concern. You know Griff wants his assets but Zion is really damaged goods to a degree. Atlanta pulled back. 

LaVine is someone teams think might be available this offseason for the max if Chicago doesn't bite the bullet. 

We already know about Ayton who's Atlanta top target. 

The biggest news is Chicago being open to SnT for Donovan Mitchell if he's willing to extension for less than the max with Utah. Chicago doesn't want to pay LaVine that money but they want to keep a top SG so they aren't exactly willing to let LaVine go.

This summer, expect a lot of change. Kyrie is the player that I see leaving the most. Brooklyn doesn't want to pay him the max at all and really want to get a TPE and use that to get a SnT player in FA or via trade. 

LeBron James and Anthony Davis will be available but it's unlikely they will get moved. LA is still asking for the stars and the moon and both of them just don't have that trade value at this stage of their careers. 

A team who's aggressively looking for another star or superstar is Charlotte. Obviously we all know Atlanta is as well.

[capstone21]

Going after Zion will be a mistake we will be losing a lot of assets and overpaying for a guy that is constantly overweight and injured.

It will be a longterm setback.  He will always be injured.  His explosiveness will be gone and then you are left with a shell of what his potential was supposed to be.

[shakes]

26 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

I've avoided any Zion to anywhere news still he gets a clean bill of health. That's easier said than done. 

much better chance of finding Zion with a clean plate than a clean bill of health.

 

Zion looks like the type to lick the powdered sugar off the plate after he ate his 4-6 beignets.

[kg01]

27 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

I've avoided any Zion to anywhere news still he gets a clean bill of health. That's easier said than done. 

Ah so you were Ukraine'ing us?

Agree the health thing is too hill a climb at this point and, imho, going forward too.  Sure the guy can keep it in the road long enough to seem healthy. But how could anyone trust he won't balloon a month after arriving.

Not worth it.

[kg01]

2 minutes ago, shakes said:

much better chance of finding Zion with a clean plate than a clean bill of health.

Zion looks like the type to lick the powdered sugar off the plate after he ate his 4-6 beignets.

So wrong.

[NBASupes]

13 minutes ago, kg01 said:

Ah so you were Ukraine'ing us?

Agree the health thing is too hill a climb at this point and, imho, going forward too.  Sure the guy can keep it in the road long enough to seem healthy. But how could anyone trust he won't balloon a month after arriving.

Not worth it.

It made no sense to talk about it. It was a stretch and his price too great is what teams are saying across the league. 

Teams are comparing his value to KPs from NY

[NBASupes]

17 minutes ago, capstone21 said:

Going after Zion will be a mistake we will be losing a lot of assets and overpaying for a guy that is constantly overweight and injured.

It will be a longterm setback.  He will always be injured.  His explosiveness will be gone and then you are left with a shell of what his potential was supposed to be.

I agree. I see the benefit of Zion if healthy. He's an offensive machine in the post, he can be a point forward, he's also is versatile offensive player but the reality is, he has a negative defensive value too in terms of intangibles like Trae. That might be too much to overcome.

[Spud2nique]

2 hours ago, Diesel said:

Nah... He's going to NY. 

Then allow @kg01 to be the narrator for 30 for 30, what went wrong with Zion?

You got my vote, wait, I haven’t heard your voice though. Is it as deep and soothing as Supes? 

[Spud2nique]

2 hours ago, shakes said:

How's the food in Atlanta?   That really is they key determining factor.    If it's too good we'd be better off passing on Zion.   

When I hit the ATL I’m having varsity burger  

[Spud2nique]

2 hours ago, kg01 said:

The #1 ability is availability.

You just swoop in on my lines huh. I guess greats take from greats look at Jordan and Kobe. 
 

Ps Speaking of Kobe, did anyone watch the ultimate draft during the all star weekend? Don’t remember at what point but somebody make a remark to Jerry West about having them take a private plane then giggling and saying “too soon”.. not sure if this was on social media haven’t checked but that’s kinda messed up. It might have been D Wade, I honestly don’t know who said it. Hoping Jerry didn’t hear it cuz I don’t think that’s cool. 

[Spud2nique]

1 hour ago, AHF said:

Can you imagine how Reddish would react?  He wanted to move out of Atlanta to go to a team that could be his.  Then he ends up on a team with the same two guys who made him a third option afterthought in college?  Can't imagine Cam would be even a little happy about this.

Perhaps @NBASupes can play Cam in the movie  
 

Can @kg01 play the Celtics trainer/ ball boy ? 
 

@Sothron can be Thibs he’s got that crack in his voice when he yells

 
 

Ps The stuntman who makes Cam Reddish’s shots… @Spud2nique 

SHOTS ’DDDDDD (at Supes, myself and anyone else who fell for the Cam charm; just kidding it ain’t over yet; in my mind, it’ll never be over!!!!)

 

[kg01]

15 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

When I hit the ATL I’m having varsity burger  

If the 1st thing you have is a varsity burger, the 2nd thing you're gonna have is the squirts.

11 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

You just swoop in on my lines huh. I guess greats take from greats look at Jordan and Kobe. 

Steel sharpens steel, baybee.

[Spud2nique]

35 minutes ago, shakes said:

Zion looks like the type to lick the powdered sugar off the plate after he ate his 4-6 beignets.

 made me think of this scene. I’m so mad at you shakes, it’s not even funny.

[Spud2nique]

3 hours ago, Spud2nique said:

He must be taking in 5000+ calories a day.

I meant 15000.

[Spud2nique]

6 minutes ago, kg01 said:

If the 1st thing you have is a varsity burger, the 2nd thing you're gonna have is the squirts.

I thought I had to try it once.