Spud2nique Posted March 16, 2023 Report Share Posted March 16, 2023 YOU ALWAYS RETAIN AN ASSET. Always! And Bogi is a dude who knows how to play and is seen as a commodity around the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted March 16, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted March 16, 2023 Just now, theheroatl said: The only thing I can think of is they had lots of evidence from doctors that his knees are okay. That was my first thought - that he finally had that knee finally fixed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deester11 Posted March 16, 2023 Report Share Posted March 16, 2023 Just now, NBASupes said: Long term, he fits this role well. As long as his knees are good, we can get 6 more quality seasons out of him. His offensive value has been +2 for years and his value off the bench is massive. He makes sense in this role like Joe Ingles for Utah in his role. Our issues are all starter based. OO, Bey, and JJ all fit their current roles. Bogi is the only one that's locked in. He's likely never going to be a starting 2. But he's perfect in this role. With the salary going up significantly each season, this will feel like a full MLE deal. Maybe not a discount but definitely market value. He's the one player that we lose, we feel it for sure. I guess. I just think that he won't improve defensively and unless he hot, he's tough to watch. I think the resources should have been allocated elsewhere while thinking you're right about the cost benefit. Meh I guess is what I'm saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted March 16, 2023 Report Share Posted March 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Atlantaholic said: 4 years? Why lol? My guess, the open market for Bogi was giving his agent four year deals. You got to remember, teams generally give deals based on the market. This is why Dre is making what he's making. At the end of the day, we got a lot of attractive players and JC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted March 16, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted March 16, 2023 SO he has declined his player option and signing a new deal 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted March 16, 2023 Report Share Posted March 16, 2023 1 minute ago, deester11 said: I guess. I just think that he won't improve defensively and unless he hot, he's tough to watch. I think the resources should have been allocated elsewhere while thinking you're right about the cost benefit. Meh I guess is what I'm saying. He's gonna be Bogi. The good and the bad. This is his market value. That's kind of how this works. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted March 16, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted March 16, 2023 NOTE: Bogi will NOT be trade eligible for 6 months from when he signs. So sometime after mid-September he would be trade eligible. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted March 16, 2023 Report Share Posted March 16, 2023 Just now, JayBirdHawk said: NOTE: Bogi will NOT be trade eligible for 6 months from when he signs. So sometime after mid-September he would be trade eligible. Which means this isn't just a potential flip move like Clint. They believe in him in this role. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin capstone21 Posted March 16, 2023 Admin Report Share Posted March 16, 2023 Love it! Great for the team … he brings a lot more then just shooting … and he is my fav player on the roster 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted March 16, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted March 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, NBASupes said: Which means this isn't just a potential flip move like Clint. They believe in him in this role. I'm not gonna say that. Training camp starts in late September, he can still be traded before camp begins. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Atlantaholic Posted March 16, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted March 16, 2023 Don't understand locking up the oft injured 30 year old player who has declined every year he's been on the team, but whatev. We must not be too high on AJ. Rather just have kep Huerter who at least was trending the right direction and was younger. Bogi is a good player but we need defensive players on this team and his defense just gets worse and worse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted March 16, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted March 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Atlantaholic said: We must not be too high on AJ. Rather just have kep Huerter who at least was trending the right direction and was younger. Bogi is a good player but we need defensive players on this team and his defense just gets worse and worse. AJ is 19 and still on his rookie contract for the next 3 years. He still needs development. We still need low salary players to round out the roster. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted March 16, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted March 16, 2023 Hopefully the declining part is true! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deester11 Posted March 16, 2023 Report Share Posted March 16, 2023 12 minutes ago, NBASupes said: He's gonna be Bogi. The good and the bad. This is his market value. That's kind of how this works. Meh to his market value then. I mean good for him..but I'm not high on it. I'm glad Jayhawk clarified his trade status. Lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShooterSays Posted March 16, 2023 Report Share Posted March 16, 2023 I'm kind of shocked. But Bogi will have 1 year left on his deal when AJ is on the last year of his rookie contract. Probably would be pretty easy to move as an expiring contract if AJ is ready to step in at that point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted March 16, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted March 16, 2023 *I was thinking declining scale might be better, but I'm rethinking it. If it starts lower than $18 mil this year, better for us next year. Then it rises as the cap rises over the next few years. Hopefully the final year is either non-guaranteed or partial guarantee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Final_quest Posted March 16, 2023 Report Share Posted March 16, 2023 I will say this about Bogi, the data on him is favorable. He makes a positive impact on the court per the numbers. The organization must like the chances of him staying healthy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted March 16, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted March 16, 2023 Bogi getting paid all over! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Jody23 Posted March 16, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted March 16, 2023 I wonder if this is more indicative of how they feel about retaing Murray. Are they confident they can keep him beyond next season? If they can, at what number? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted March 16, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted March 16, 2023 9 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said: *I was thinking declining scale might be better, but I'm rethinking it. If it starts lower than $18 mil this year, better for us next year. Then it rises as the cap rises over the next few years. Hopefully the final year is either non-guaranteed or partial guarantee. Spotrac has the yearly estimates as follows: So that will be $3 million less than his PO for next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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