JTB Posted November 20, 2020 Report Share Posted November 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, JeffS17 said: I'm hoping one of the reasons it's taking so long to get any news is we're not eagerly overpaying anyone. This is the logic they should not be overly worried about. When you’re a franchise like the hawks and you’re trying lure good talent you can’t be pinching pennies at the same time . 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted November 20, 2020 Report Share Posted November 20, 2020 8 minutes ago, Peoriabird said: Are we trying become the Dallas Mavericks? Dallas has arguably the best offense in the NBA last year. They have a nice thing going. I like their draft pick from yesterday too, especially Terry 7 minutes ago, JTB said: I hope you’re right Too many Euro players for ya??? Hayward is actually American. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTB Posted November 20, 2020 Report Share Posted November 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, bleachkit said: Hayward is actually American. Lol I know that! But the other two are not and that’s where the Mavericks reference came from more than likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted November 20, 2020 Report Share Posted November 20, 2020 1 minute ago, JTB said: Lol I know that! But the other two are not and that’s where the Mavericks reference came from more than likely. We could use a few European players, our three point shooting was abysmal last year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JeffS17 Posted November 20, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 20, 2020 14 minutes ago, JTB said: This is the logic they should not be overly worried about. When you’re a franchise like the hawks and you’re trying lure good talent you can’t be pinching pennies at the same time . I agree 100% but this year is a bit different as we have ample space and almost every other team does not. I'm the first one to support "overpays" if it means getting all-star level players on board. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RedDawg#8 Posted November 20, 2020 Report Share Posted November 20, 2020 12 minutes ago, bleachkit said: We could use a few European players, our three point shooting was abysmal last year. https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/player-stat/three-point-field-goal-percentage Americans have caught up. Only 4 of the top 25 shooters were non American. And only 3 were Euro's I get it though, wink 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Sothron Posted November 20, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 20, 2020 I find it unreal how many various experts and talking heads are talking about taking Big O means the Hawks are going to trade Collins. They aren't similar players. They don't threaten each other's place on the team. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted November 20, 2020 Report Share Posted November 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, RedDawg#8 said: https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/player-stat/three-point-field-goal-percentage Americans have caught up. Only 4 of the top 25 shooters were non American. And only 3 were Euro's I get it though, wink Bertans is no.10 on the list, Joe Harris is no.6. Only free agents among the top 10. Galinari is actually a better scorer than either though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrell Posted November 20, 2020 Report Share Posted November 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, Sothron said: I find it unreal how many various experts and talking heads are talking about taking Big O means the Hawks are going to trade Collins. They aren't similar players. They don't threaten each other's place on the team. Ive seen a lot say we're trading Capela......lol 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted November 20, 2020 Report Share Posted November 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, Sothron said: I find it unreal how many various experts and talking heads are talking about taking Big O means the Hawks are going to trade Collins. They aren't similar players. They don't threaten each other's place on the team. He's going to be our defensive anchor. In the playoffs when it get's more physical you need a guy like that. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member aali34 Posted November 20, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 20, 2020 8 minutes ago, Sothron said: I find it unreal how many various experts and talking heads are talking about taking Big O means the Hawks are going to trade Collins. They aren't similar players. They don't threaten each other's place on the team. Okongwu compliments Collins if anything. If John is still a below average defender, Onekya can switch and guard either big man position depending on the matchup . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted November 20, 2020 Report Share Posted November 20, 2020 1 minute ago, aali34 said: Okongwu compliments Collins if anything. If John is still a below average defender, Onekya can switch and guard either big man position depending on the matchup . Our front court is going to be excellent. Tough sledding around the basket. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gHost83 Posted November 20, 2020 Report Share Posted November 20, 2020 38 minutes ago, terrell said: This dude gets it. Okongwu can defend every position. Dude regularly blocked seemingly open jumpers which is a super rare trait. We deploy a heavily switching style defense. Trae is bad at D and there isn't any getting around that, but we are building a roster that can compensate for that. Okongwu's offensive upside is just a bonus. If he does develop a jumper (totally possible and his free throw percentage hints at this), this team could be unstoppable offensively and competent defensively. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted November 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2020 Update: James Harden Boston was working on a deal for James Harden regardless of what they are putting out there publicly. The truth is, Boston did detailed research on James Harden. Even more than what was reported here and James Harden has a toxic rep. It's not just former staffers and former players. A number of current players don't like James. That doesn't mean he doesn't have allies. MDA, P.J. Tucker and a number of others that like James but his rep is really really bad and he also has a lot of other issues I was told not to talk about. Houston has moved from James, the relationship is done but James has to repair his image. Even Brooklyn has a number of people in their org saying to not touch Harden regardless of MDA, Nash, and KD are interested in James. He is not sure what will happen with James but it's unlikely anyone will trade for him as Tillman is particular where James goes and won't be forced into any move. There is belief that the Westbrook relationship is redeemable in Houston. Rondo Baynes Gallinari Joe Harris KCP Jerami Grant Davis Bertans Christian Wood Goran Dragic Brandon Ingram and AD are expected to be Day 1 signings. FVV, Hayward, and Bogi are expected to go into the weekend. SAC/MIL They are in trouble, he wouldn't go into details but he says they are in trouble. Most wanted FAs: Bazemore, Wes Matthews, Mo Harkless, Jeff Green, Mason Plumlee, Nerlens Noel, Alex Len, Bismack Biyombo, Kyle Korver, and Markieff Morris. Min salary guys basically who aren't PGs. Free Agency isn't expected to last that long this year. Offers should come fast this year. There is little to no ongoing trade talks right now, that could change quickly depending on who goes where 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted November 20, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, NBASupes said: SAC/MIL They are in trouble, he wouldn't go into details but he says they are in trouble. Probably this per Larry Coon 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrell Posted November 20, 2020 Report Share Posted November 20, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, NBASupes said: Update: James Harden Boston was working on a deal for James Harden regardless of what they are putting out there publicly. The truth is, Boston did detailed research on James Harden. Even more than what was reported here and James Harden has a toxic rep. It's not just former staffers and former players. A number of current players don't like James. That doesn't mean he doesn't have allies. MDA, P.J. Tucker and a number of others that like James but his rep is really really bad and he also has a lot of other issues I was told not to talk about. Houston has moved from James, the relationship is done but James has to repair his image. Even Brooklyn has a number of people in their org saying to not touch Harden regardless of MDA, Nash, and KD are interested in James. He is not sure what will happen with James but it's unlikely anyone will trade for him as Tillman is particular where James goes and won't be forced into any move. There is belief that the Westbrook relationship is redeemable in Houston. Rondo Baynes Gallinari Joe Harris KCP Jerami Grant Davis Bertans Christian Wood Goran Dragic Brandon Ingram and AD are expected to be Day 1 signings. FVV, Hayward, and Bogi are expected to go into the weekend. SAC/MIL They are in trouble, he wouldn't go into details but he says they are in trouble. Most wanted FAs: Bazemore, Wes Matthews, Mo Harkless, Jeff Green, Mason Plumlee, Nerlens Noel, Alex Len, Bismack Biyombo, Kyle Korver, and Markieff Morris. Min salary guys basically who aren't PGs. Free Agency isn't expected to last that long this year. Offers should come fast this year. There is little to no ongoing trade talks right now, that could change quickly depending on who goes where Bazemore? lol Edited November 20, 2020 by terrell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted November 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2020 1 minute ago, terrell said: BazeGaze? lol Contenders are looking at him a lot for the min. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted November 20, 2020 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 20, 2020 8 minutes ago, NBASupes said: FVV, Hayward, and Bogi are expected to go into the weekend. I'm just hoping the Hawks would have moved on by then, what's the point in this...pick your spot and go. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted November 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2020 1 minute ago, JayBirdHawk said: I'm just hoping the Hawks would have moved on by then, what's the point in this...pick your spot and go. I hope if we sign him, it's tomorrow to be frank. Even if we don't, I hope it's tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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