Official Game Thread: Hawks at Pacers (1 PM Tip!) -- The Regular-Season Finale!

[TheNorthCydeRises]

4 minutes ago, Peoriabird said:

Quinn puts these stupid non-defensive line ups in the game time and time again.  I hope this is just experimentation and not an actual strategy going forward

This.  Quin can't keep playing these all-offense lineups, and expect the defense to be fine.  It's not.

The backcourt is going to struggle defensively. We all know that.  But the frontcourt can't be just as bad or worse defensively.

 

Mo G's activity on the frontcourt is evident.  Hopefully the Hawks can develop something out of him.

4 minutes ago, Peoriabird said:

Quinn puts these stupid non-defensive line ups in the game time and time again.  I hope this is just experimentation and not an actual strategy going forward

This.  Quin can't keep playing these all-offense lineups, and expect the defense to be fine.  It's not.

The backcourt is going to struggle defensively. We all know that.  But the frontcourt can't be just as bad or worse defensively.

 

Mo G's activity on the frontcourt is evident.  Hopefully the Hawks can develop something out of him.

[NBASupes]

Trae's style a high TO style but games where he has 3 or less for the entire game is games we tend to do a lot better on offense. This is not by mistake. Teams know we don't handle pressure well as we can't make you pay for it. We can't score an easy basket. We can't make you pay in the paint. Our paint scoring is manufactured by Trae and Murray. 

[NBASupes]

6 minutes ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

This has nothing to do with Trae.  It's our frontcourt, and has always been our frontcourt.

The Pacers frontcourt has dominated us this game.   This is why you want Edey.  He at least is a big body who can get some of those defensive rebounds.  But in a game like this, Edey would be a complete liability with the Pacers 5-out offense.

The Hawks need more athletes on the frontcourt.  Mo G had very nice defensive activity when he was in the game.  Bruno is struggling because he's used to guarding centers 18 feet and in . . . not 18 feet and out, like with Turner.  And Mr Hunter as our PF . . . 1 rebound, and getting destroyed by Siakam.

Hawks are getting outrebounded in this game 26 - 14.

Turner would be in foul trouble with Edey so how long will that five out last if you are constantly in foul trouble and its not like Indiana plays good defense. Edey would give them hell on them picks and his rolls would as well. For the issues they give us, we could give it to them right back with Edey if not more

[TheNorthCydeRises]

3 minutes ago, Peoriabird said:

What's the problem with this?  Team don't have 5 superstars in their starting line up.  Glues guys are kinda important in this league

Dre is being played out of position.  He plays more like a 2 / 3 than a 3 / 4.  A game like this exposes Dre big time.

I have no problem with him being a glue guy.  But he's not even a factor on either end today.

Playing Trae - DJ - Bogi - Hunter ( at the start of a game ), is dumb as hell.  That's a lineup you play to close a game, when you're up a few points and need to score to close out a game.

I know all of the injuries is dictating this.  But this is part of the reason why Bench Dre has been a much better player than Starter Dre.

Hawks would honestly be better off starting both Bruno and Mo G/Vit on the frontline, then let Dre come off the bench to see if he can be a force on offense, and go up against "weaker" bench players.

[Peoriabird]

1 minute ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

Dre is being played out of position.  He plays more like a 2 / 3 than a 3 / 4.  A game like this exposes Dre big time.

I have no problem with him being a glue guy.  But he's not even a factor on either end today.

Playing Trae - DJ - Bogi - Hunter ( at the start of a game ), is dumb as hell.  That's a lineup you play to close a game, when you're up a few points and need to score to close out a game.

I know all of the injuries is dictating this.  But this is part of the reason why Bench Dre has been a much better player than Starter Dre.

Hawks would honestly be better off starting both Bruno and Mo G/Vit on the frontline, then let Dre come off the bench to see if he can be a force on offense, and go up against "weaker" bench players.

Do you guys really live from game to game?

[TheNorthCydeRises]

3 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

Trae's style a high TO style but games where he has 3 or less for the entire game is games we tend to do a lot better on offense. This is not by mistake. Teams know we don't handle pressure well as we can't make you pay for it. We can't score an easy basket. We can't make you pay in the paint. Our paint scoring is manufactured by Trae and Murray. 

Trae having a high turnover game, also sometimes mean that the other players aren't turning the ball over at all.  Even in this game, Trae has 4 turnovers, but the team only has 6.   He may finish with 6 turnovers, but if the team only has 10, that's overall a good thing.

[TheNorthCydeRises]

Just now, Peoriabird said:

Do you guys really live from game to game?

No sir.  But you have to coach from game to game.  Certain matchups are horrible for certain people.

At least Dre is getting to the line.  If he stays aggressive like that, maybe he can get some of those frontcourt guys in foul trouble.

[NBASupes]

Just now, TheNorthCydeRises said:

Trae having a high turnover game, also sometimes mean that the other players aren't turning the ball over at all.  Even in this game, Trae has 4 turnovers, but the team only has 6.   He may finish with 6 turnovers, but if the team only has 10, that's overall a good thing.

During our high turnover session at the end of the 2nd quarter, Indiana went on a major 10+ run. It was bad bro, very bad

[Peoriabird]

Just now, TheNorthCydeRises said:

No sir.  But you have to coach from game to game.  Certain matchups are horrible for certain people.

At least Dre is getting to the line.  If he stays aggressive like that, maybe he can get some of those frontcourt guys in foul trouble.

This game is totally meaningless which is why I am assuming that this is an experiment on Quinn's part. 

[terrell]

Trae turnover machine

[benhillboy]

I know Haliburton airballed that three but that coverage was a microcosm of the season.

[TheNorthCydeRises]

6 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

Turner would be in foul trouble with Edey so how long will that five out last if you are constantly in foul trouble and its not like Indiana plays good defense. Edey would give them hell on them picks and his rolls would as well. For the issues they give us, we could give it to them right back with Edey if not more

I can't argue this.  This would be Edey's biggest worth in a game like this.  Make the opposing center play defense and see if you can pick up fouls on him.

[terrell]

3 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

During our high turnover session at the end of the 2nd quarter, Indiana went on a major 10+ run. It was bad bro, very bad

Drives me fkn insane..

[terrell]

11 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

Trae's style a high TO style but games where he has 3 or less for the entire game is games we tend to do a lot better on offense. This is not by mistake. Teams know we don't handle pressure well as we can't make you pay for it. We can't score an easy basket. We can't make you pay in the paint. Our paint scoring is manufactured by Trae and Murray. 

That's a rarity..

4 minutes ago, Peoriabird said:

This game is totally meaningless which is why I am assuming that this is an experiment on Quinn's part. 

6 losses in a row is never a good thing IMo

[Peoriabird]

1 minute ago, terrell said:

That's a rarity..

6 losses in a row is never a good thing IMo

Still meaningless

[benhillboy]

To Bruno’s family, I’m sorry for your loss.

[TheNorthCydeRises]

Bruno getting destroyed today on defense.

[terrell]

1 minute ago, Peoriabird said:

Still meaningless

Hopefully the players are thinking the same.. lol

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[JayBirdHawk]

Trae has more TOs than shot attempts .  Not a winning formula. 

[NBASupes]

Mo, wtf